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  • #23732
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    dmo21
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    I think the Toronto Raptors have a very nice core group of guys going into the future, but just missing a couple pieces. Here is the young core I think they should keep and roll with:

    PG- ?

    Wings- DeRozan, Weems, ?

    Big Men- Bargnani, Davis, Johnson, Alabi

    6th Man- Bayless

    They have a good big man rotation set up, especially if Alabi starts to improve as he will be a much needed defensive presence. Bayless will be a great 6th man as he can flat out score. One more wing would be nice with a rotation of the high flyers in DeRozan and Weems. The Raps still need that point guard of the future tho, as I don’t think Bayless is a true point guard cause we need a distrubutor on this team; a pass first point guard. The oldest person in this core is Bargnani at 25, but he also can easily be the best player on this team with his skill set. All we need is a point guard from the draft and then maybe another young wing from free agency as they will have some cash to spend in the summer.

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  • #452368
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    their still weak inside, neither Bargnani or Davis are the biggest guys in the world, and Johnson hasn’t really developed like they thought.

    Kyrie Irving would be an ideal pick, then Harrison Barnes. If both of those guys are gone they might be out of luck, I guess Terrence Jones could play SF for them or Perry Jones.

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  • #452406
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    their still weak inside, neither Bargnani or Davis are the biggest guys in the world, and Johnson hasn’t really developed like they thought.

    Kyrie Irving would be an ideal pick, then Harrison Barnes. If both of those guys are gone they might be out of luck, I guess Terrence Jones could play SF for them or Perry Jones.

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  • #452429
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    their still weak inside, neither Bargnani or Davis are the biggest guys in the world, and Johnson hasn’t really developed like they thought.

    Kyrie Irving would be an ideal pick, then Harrison Barnes. If both of those guys are gone they might be out of luck, I guess Terrence Jones could play SF for them or Perry Jones.

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  • #452392
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    Yeah, they are kinda weak inside strengthwise, but with Amir and Ed there is still a chance they can bulk up, and both of them already have shot blocking ability on the weakside, especially Davis. If Alabi does work on his game and improve quite a bit, he could be there big body down low that can guard the other teams low post presence.

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  • #452430
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    Yeah, they are kinda weak inside strengthwise, but with Amir and Ed there is still a chance they can bulk up, and both of them already have shot blocking ability on the weakside, especially Davis. If Alabi does work on his game and improve quite a bit, he could be there big body down low that can guard the other teams low post presence.

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  • #452453
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    dmo21
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    Yeah, they are kinda weak inside strengthwise, but with Amir and Ed there is still a chance they can bulk up, and both of them already have shot blocking ability on the weakside, especially Davis. If Alabi does work on his game and improve quite a bit, he could be there big body down low that can guard the other teams low post presence.

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  • #452413
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    QUINCEY HODGES1

    What about a shooting guard that can shoot and spread the defense. Seem to have the same problem out in Philly

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  • #452451
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    QUINCEY HODGES1

    What about a shooting guard that can shoot and spread the defense. Seem to have the same problem out in Philly

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  • #452474
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    QUINCEY HODGES1

    What about a shooting guard that can shoot and spread the defense. Seem to have the same problem out in Philly

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  • #452416
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    Bargnani is Nice he can put up 20 game, Derozan show some flashes of those VC comparison at times he has a ton of potential but is still inconsistant night in and night out. Besides that davis we still have no idea about & guys llike weems & bayless are ok bench players & 6-8man but they shouldnt get more than 20mins a night. So they still have a very long way to go I think that Bargnani shouldnt be a C hes a SFPF, So they need a true Point guard to run the O, & a real Bigman aswell, but as we all know theres no true bigs coming out at C this year so they just need to keep stocking up on young talent & hope atleast a couple of them pan out to be real players. 

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  • #452454
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    Bargnani is Nice he can put up 20 game, Derozan show some flashes of those VC comparison at times he has a ton of potential but is still inconsistant night in and night out. Besides that davis we still have no idea about & guys llike weems & bayless are ok bench players & 6-8man but they shouldnt get more than 20mins a night. So they still have a very long way to go I think that Bargnani shouldnt be a C hes a SFPF, So they need a true Point guard to run the O, & a real Bigman aswell, but as we all know theres no true bigs coming out at C this year so they just need to keep stocking up on young talent & hope atleast a couple of them pan out to be real players. 

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  • #452477
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    bkb77
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    Bargnani is Nice he can put up 20 game, Derozan show some flashes of those VC comparison at times he has a ton of potential but is still inconsistant night in and night out. Besides that davis we still have no idea about & guys llike weems & bayless are ok bench players & 6-8man but they shouldnt get more than 20mins a night. So they still have a very long way to go I think that Bargnani shouldnt be a C hes a SFPF, So they need a true Point guard to run the O, & a real Bigman aswell, but as we all know theres no true bigs coming out at C this year so they just need to keep stocking up on young talent & hope atleast a couple of them pan out to be real players. 

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  • #452422
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    QUINCEY HODGES1

    Derozen has shown me more ricky davis flash’s then Vince carter

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    QUINCEY HODGES1

    Derozen has shown me more ricky davis flash’s then Vince carter

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  • #452483
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    QUINCEY HODGES1

    Derozen has shown me more ricky davis flash’s then Vince carter

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  • #452434
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    It’s only his second year,but he has a good game every 5 games. He is real inconsistent,and a good game wich is rare he scores 20.

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  • #452472
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    It’s only his second year,but he has a good game every 5 games. He is real inconsistent,and a good game wich is rare he scores 20.

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  • #452495
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    It’s only his second year,but he has a good game every 5 games. He is real inconsistent,and a good game wich is rare he scores 20.

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  • #452443
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    JJeff6
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    This team just doesnt have anything that excites me, except maybe the potential of DeMarr Derozen and Andrea finally living up to some of his potential.  They dont have many good pieces that could put together a winning team. 

    A high draft pick next year could get them a Kyrie Erving or a Brandon Knight.

    Maybe Jared Bayless mans up and does work?

    Maybe Lb becomes that 18-20 point threat of the bench night in and night out like he was for the suns a few years back?

    To me, its just a team full of role players + Andrea Bargnani

     

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  • #452481
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    JJeff6
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    This team just doesnt have anything that excites me, except maybe the potential of DeMarr Derozen and Andrea finally living up to some of his potential.  They dont have many good pieces that could put together a winning team. 

    A high draft pick next year could get them a Kyrie Erving or a Brandon Knight.

    Maybe Jared Bayless mans up and does work?

    Maybe Lb becomes that 18-20 point threat of the bench night in and night out like he was for the suns a few years back?

    To me, its just a team full of role players + Andrea Bargnani

     

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  • #452504
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    JJeff6
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    This team just doesnt have anything that excites me, except maybe the potential of DeMarr Derozen and Andrea finally living up to some of his potential.  They dont have many good pieces that could put together a winning team. 

    A high draft pick next year could get them a Kyrie Erving or a Brandon Knight.

    Maybe Jared Bayless mans up and does work?

    Maybe Lb becomes that 18-20 point threat of the bench night in and night out like he was for the suns a few years back?

    To me, its just a team full of role players + Andrea Bargnani

     

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  • #452482
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    TooNice4TV
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     They need an impact player in the starting line-up from day one.

    They also need to get rid of Triano. He does not let the rookies play through their mistakes.

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  • #452520
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    TooNice4TV
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     They need an impact player in the starting line-up from day one.

    They also need to get rid of Triano. He does not let the rookies play through their mistakes.

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  • #452543
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    TooNice4TV
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     They need an impact player in the starting line-up from day one.

    They also need to get rid of Triano. He does not let the rookies play through their mistakes.

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  • #452488
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    JJeff6
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    Next year they will be major players in free agency.  J-rich if he doesnt resign with phoenix would be a good option. 

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  • #452526
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    JJeff6
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    Next year they will be major players in free agency.  J-rich if he doesnt resign with phoenix would be a good option. 

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  • #452550
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    JJeff6
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    Next year they will be major players in free agency.  J-rich if he doesnt resign with phoenix would be a good option. 

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  • #452503
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    The Splash Doc
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    Bargnani needs to be dealt to Orlando for Gortat and then go after a PG in the draft like Irving but more than likely they will get a lesser talent depending on who’s available.

    Possible Rotation

    C- Gortat-Alabi

    PF- Davis-Johnson

    SF- Klieza-Weems

    SG- Derozan-Bayless

    PG- Knight-Calderon

    This would be a great defensive team with Gortat, Alabi and Johnson inside and Knight, Weems and Kleiza on the perimeter. Not too bad offensively either and in the east 40 wins might get you in the playoffs they just need Derozan and Davis to develop legit offensive games

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  • #452541
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    The Splash Doc
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    Bargnani needs to be dealt to Orlando for Gortat and then go after a PG in the draft like Irving but more than likely they will get a lesser talent depending on who’s available.

    Possible Rotation

    C- Gortat-Alabi

    PF- Davis-Johnson

    SF- Klieza-Weems

    SG- Derozan-Bayless

    PG- Knight-Calderon

    This would be a great defensive team with Gortat, Alabi and Johnson inside and Knight, Weems and Kleiza on the perimeter. Not too bad offensively either and in the east 40 wins might get you in the playoffs they just need Derozan and Davis to develop legit offensive games

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  • #452565
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    The Splash Doc
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    Bargnani needs to be dealt to Orlando for Gortat and then go after a PG in the draft like Irving but more than likely they will get a lesser talent depending on who’s available.

    Possible Rotation

    C- Gortat-Alabi

    PF- Davis-Johnson

    SF- Klieza-Weems

    SG- Derozan-Bayless

    PG- Knight-Calderon

    This would be a great defensive team with Gortat, Alabi and Johnson inside and Knight, Weems and Kleiza on the perimeter. Not too bad offensively either and in the east 40 wins might get you in the playoffs they just need Derozan and Davis to develop legit offensive games

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  • #452509
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    torontoraptors10
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    I’m going to be straight up with you, that is a terrible trade. Why would you trade a former #1 pick who is having a breakout year for a reserve centre? Bargnani is playing out of position and was a natural PF who is being turned into a C. Gortat would be a good addition for the Raptors but is not worth Bargnani.

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  • #452546
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    torontoraptors10
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    I’m going to be straight up with you, that is a terrible trade. Why would you trade a former #1 pick who is having a breakout year for a reserve centre? Bargnani is playing out of position and was a natural PF who is being turned into a C. Gortat would be a good addition for the Raptors but is not worth Bargnani.

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  • #452571
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    I’m going to be straight up with you, that is a terrible trade. Why would you trade a former #1 pick who is having a breakout year for a reserve centre? Bargnani is playing out of position and was a natural PF who is being turned into a C. Gortat would be a good addition for the Raptors but is not worth Bargnani.

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  • #452515
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    QUINCEY HODGES1

    I agree thats a horrible trade. Thats the type of trade where you can get fired as a Coach because youre hoping Gortat will pan out as a starter with no shooters to keep defenses out of the paint

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  • #452552
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    QUINCEY HODGES1

    I agree thats a horrible trade. Thats the type of trade where you can get fired as a Coach because youre hoping Gortat will pan out as a starter with no shooters to keep defenses out of the paint

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  • #452577
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    QUINCEY HODGES1

    I agree thats a horrible trade. Thats the type of trade where you can get fired as a Coach because youre hoping Gortat will pan out as a starter with no shooters to keep defenses out of the paint

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  • #452536
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    knicks27
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    They still need a lot of work, but Bayless was an absolute steal for them

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  • #452573
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    knicks27
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    They still need a lot of work, but Bayless was an absolute steal for them

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  • #452598
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    knicks27
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    They still need a lot of work, but Bayless was an absolute steal for them

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  • #452539
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    SubZero
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    I don’t really think Harrison Barnes would be a good option for Toronto, unless you want to have Sonny Weems come off the bench and DeRozan start at SG. Kyrie Irving would definitely be the best choice for them, although if they happened to drop in the lotto, Jared Sullinger or Enes Kanter (I understand Raps fans don’t want any more international players) could give them some grit and toughness inside to go along with Ed Davis’s defensive potential

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  • #452576
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    SubZero
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    I don’t really think Harrison Barnes would be a good option for Toronto, unless you want to have Sonny Weems come off the bench and DeRozan start at SG. Kyrie Irving would definitely be the best choice for them, although if they happened to drop in the lotto, Jared Sullinger or Enes Kanter (I understand Raps fans don’t want any more international players) could give them some grit and toughness inside to go along with Ed Davis’s defensive potential

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  • #452601
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    SubZero
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    I don’t really think Harrison Barnes would be a good option for Toronto, unless you want to have Sonny Weems come off the bench and DeRozan start at SG. Kyrie Irving would definitely be the best choice for them, although if they happened to drop in the lotto, Jared Sullinger or Enes Kanter (I understand Raps fans don’t want any more international players) could give them some grit and toughness inside to go along with Ed Davis’s defensive potential

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  • #452542
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    dmo21
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    I actually don’t mind the pick of Kanter if there are no legit point guards left because Kanter plays in the low post and is a tougher player(so I have heard). This would look good beside Bargnani as he can play power forward and the high post. I don’t mind the Raptors drafting International players IF they are as good as American players because in Toronto it seems it is easier to keep around those International players while the Americans just leave. Don’t know why though..

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  • #452579
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    I actually don’t mind the pick of Kanter if there are no legit point guards left because Kanter plays in the low post and is a tougher player(so I have heard). This would look good beside Bargnani as he can play power forward and the high post. I don’t mind the Raptors drafting International players IF they are as good as American players because in Toronto it seems it is easier to keep around those International players while the Americans just leave. Don’t know why though..

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  • #452604
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    dmo21
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    I actually don’t mind the pick of Kanter if there are no legit point guards left because Kanter plays in the low post and is a tougher player(so I have heard). This would look good beside Bargnani as he can play power forward and the high post. I don’t mind the Raptors drafting International players IF they are as good as American players because in Toronto it seems it is easier to keep around those International players while the Americans just leave. Don’t know why though..

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  • #452620
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    They need kyrie irving but if hes not there they gotta go with Perry Jones just becuase hes another intriguing prospect athelete who can present matchup problems.

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  • #452557
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    They need kyrie irving but if hes not there they gotta go with Perry Jones just becuase hes another intriguing prospect athelete who can present matchup problems.

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  • #452594
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    They need kyrie irving but if hes not there they gotta go with Perry Jones just becuase hes another intriguing prospect athelete who can present matchup problems.

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  • #452634
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    Toronto16
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    I’m laughing at some of the guys who picked the Raptors to win 15 games this season….

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    Toronto16
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    I’m laughing at some of the guys who picked the Raptors to win 15 games this season….

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    Toronto16
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    I’m laughing at some of the guys who picked the Raptors to win 15 games this season….

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  • #452622
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    JJeff6
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    realistically, they are only gonna win 25-35 games this year though.

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    JJeff6
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    realistically, they are only gonna win 25-35 games this year though.

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    JJeff6
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    realistically, they are only gonna win 25-35 games this year though.

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  • #452648
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    Toronto16
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    Really? You’re saying they’re going to go 17 – 46 throughout the rest of the season? Really?

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  • #452687
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    Toronto16
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    Really? You’re saying they’re going to go 17 – 46 throughout the rest of the season? Really?

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    Toronto16
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    Really? You’re saying they’re going to go 17 – 46 throughout the rest of the season? Really?

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  • #452660
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    JJeff6
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    25-35 wins.  they could win anywhere from 17 to 27 for the rest of the year. actually, as a matter of fact, ill change what i said.  30 to 35 wins this year, so anywhere from 22 to 27 wins. 22-41- 27-36.  I just dont see anything spectacular about them. They did a nice job of beating the Durantless thunder yesterday, but nothing sticks out except barnganis 20 ppg and reggie evans rebounding

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  • #452698
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    25-35 wins.  they could win anywhere from 17 to 27 for the rest of the year. actually, as a matter of fact, ill change what i said.  30 to 35 wins this year, so anywhere from 22 to 27 wins. 22-41- 27-36.  I just dont see anything spectacular about them. They did a nice job of beating the Durantless thunder yesterday, but nothing sticks out except barnganis 20 ppg and reggie evans rebounding

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  • #452727
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    JJeff6
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    25-35 wins.  they could win anywhere from 17 to 27 for the rest of the year. actually, as a matter of fact, ill change what i said.  30 to 35 wins this year, so anywhere from 22 to 27 wins. 22-41- 27-36.  I just dont see anything spectacular about them. They did a nice job of beating the Durantless thunder yesterday, but nothing sticks out except barnganis 20 ppg and reggie evans rebounding

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