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  • #37611
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    bdiddy5115
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    Then, in one sentence, say why you prefer them.

     

    1. Harrison Barnes vs Michael Kidd-Gilchrist

    2. Brad Beal vs Jeremy Lamb

    3. Kendall Marshall vs Damian Lillard

    4. Arnett Moultrie vs John Henson

    5. Royce White vs Draymond Green

    6. Tony Mitchell vs Moe Harkless

    7. John Jenkins vs Doron Lamb

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  • #650363
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     1. MKG: I like his all around mentality better than Barnes considering I see him more as a scorer only. 

    2: Lamb because of his length and potential to be a defensive presence.

    3: I’m not very high on either of these two, but I’ll take Lillard in the long run because he can really score whereas Marshall won’t be able to at the pro level.

    4: Moultrie, although again Im not big on either. I think Henson will be a bust simply because he’s to frail to stay healthy.

    5: Royce: Kid is a beast and can really do it all. Both of these guys will be in the league for the long haul though, Imo.

    6: Dont know enough about either to make a comparison

    7: Lamb because his game is silky smooth. He’s more of a instant offense guy off the bench than Jenkins who I see as strictly a specialist.

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  • #650364
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    1 – Barnes just on his shooting ability alone

    2 – Lamb – like the Rip Hamilton comparison here

    3 – Marshall could be similar to Rubio in the NBA

    4 – Henson due to Moultrie’s lack of consistent effort

    5 – Green – more complete player and White will have trouble extending out of the paint on O and D

    6 –  Harkless

    7 – Lamb but close

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  • #650371
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    Hale
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    MKG

    Beal

    Marshall

    Moultrie

    White

    Harkless

    Jenkins

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  • #650388
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    nbafan7898
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    Barnes by a hair 

    Beal 

    Marshall 

    Henson (really think he is underrated.  He will be a Joakim Noah type with better D)

    White

    Harkless

    Lamb

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  • #650395
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    1. Barnes-even though MKG has that winning aspect to his game, Barnes has great potential with the right point guard next to him. I compare Barnes to Paul Pierce, and MKG to Gerald Wallace. You can build around a Paul Pierce type player, but you can’t do the same around a Gerald Wallace type player yet you need a Gerald Wallace type player to win.  You first need the player you can build around before you look for the winning pieces (like MKG).
    2. Beal-I don’t see a dominating aspect in Lamb. good at everything, master of nothing. Beal is a master shooter yet still not lacking in passing, defense, rebounds, basically everything else. Too me, Lamb is a smaller Gordon Hayward, but Beal is similar to Eric Gordon. Gordon is obviously better
    3. Lillard-I think he is a better passer than he has shown at Weber State. Small team, so his teammates aren’t too good which he means he is relied upon a lot to score and bail them out. Similar to Jimmer and BYU last year. I compare him to Brandon Knight with Darren Collison’s passing. With Marshall, I see that he is the better passer of course but Lillard surpasses him in evertything else. Yes, Marshall can hit the jumper when he needs to but Lillard is a far better jumpshooter than Marshall is.
    4. Henson-same as BA 30
    5. White-I was really impressed by him against Kentucky last week. Green has been impressive but his lack of size is what seperates the two and in the NBA that matters. Green = Dejuan Blair, White = not comparable yet because I haven’t seen enough games of him but considerably better than Green.
    6. Harkless-It would probably be closer if Mitchell had more exposure, but because he goes to North Texas its really hard to evaluate his skill. Harkless is just having a great season while Mitchell’s stats might be somewhat skewed because of how North Texas depends on him to win games
    7. Jenkins (better shooter than Lamb. Lamb looks really small, like 6’2 6’3 ish while Jenkins looks a legit 6’4. again size matters in the NBA)
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  • #650397
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    1. Harrison Barnes vs Michael Kidd-Gilchrist: Barnes, much more refined offensively, better shooter, more consistent (only 3 single digit games all season).

    2. Brad Beal vs Jeremy Lamb: Jeremy Lamb, this is very close, but Jeremy Lamb’s length puts him over Beal, but if Beal were to show more of that stroke that people were clamoring about before the start of the season, then I would have gone with him.

    3. Kendall Marshall vs Damian Lillard: Kendall Marshall, I like more of a pass-first point guard so having a guy with the best floor vision and passing ability was why I went with him. Also he’s shown he can be a scorer with 6 straight games in double figures, and  he’s 9-18 from 3 during that stretch.

    4. Arnett Moultrie vs John Henson: John Henson, unlike Moultrie, he already has a clearly defned role in the NBA as a shot-blocker and a decent post-defender. He’s still developing offensively, he’s shown flashes of a nice left hand hook, and at times has shown a decent mid-range jumper.

    5. Royce White vs Draymond Green: Royce White, because he  has the size to play the 4, unlike Green who’s 6-6 235 and will be stuck playing the 4 in the pros because he’s not quick enough to play the three.

    6. Tony Mitchell vs Moe Harkless: Mitchell Both are very athletic with raw perimeter skills, with that said though, Mitchell might not have to play much SF because he has enough bulk to play PF (6-8 235). Despite that, Mitchell still has a better jump shot than Harkless.

    7. John Jenkins vs Doron Lamb: John Jenkins, both have them will probably be drafted late first round, so assuming they both go to good teams, they will both be relegated to a 3 pt. specialist role, and nobody shoots the 3 ball better than Jenkins.

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  • #650399
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    1. Harrison Barnes vs Michael Kidd-Gilchrist……..Better scorer, has more chance to be a franchise player.

    2. Brad Beal vs Jeremy Lamb ………..Taller, longer, better defender, better off the dribble.  More potential.

    3. Kendall Marshall vs Damian Lillard…… I don’t like Marshall’s lack of athleticism and scoring ability.

    4. Arnett Moultrie vs John Henson….. Has made huge strides since his freshman year.  Has shown the ability to knock down mid range jumpers this year, along with a drastically improved post game.  Terrific shot blocker, awesome length, good rebounder.

    5. Royce White vs Draymond Green…….More skills, more athleticism, amazing handles.  Can cause problems for defenses with his ball-handling ability.

    6. Tony Mitchell vs Moe Harkless

    7. John Jenkins vs Doron Lamb

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  • #650406
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    1. Harrison Barnes because I like his scoring abilities more than MKG’s all-around abilities.

    2. As far as a prospect goes, I will take Beal right now because I think he has the higher ceiling but I think Lamb is still a nice prospect.  Lamb was definitely a better prospect when his team wasn’t a mess…

    3. Kendall Marshal because I prefer a pass-first PG if possible.  I also like the fact that he has made good players even better on that UNC team (semi-pro basically).

    4. John Henson but partly due to watching him so much.  Seeing him develop from his freshman year has been awesome because he is one of the few who has been a potential lottery pick and instead stayed to refine his game.  I like him a lot as a prospect and would love to see him drop to the Sixers.

    5. Draymond Green because I don’t think either of these guys should handle the ball nearly as much as they did in college at the NBA level, and I believe that Green is the better player all-around.  Admittingly, I did not watch Iowa St. too much this year.

    6. Mitchell because I followed him a little bit this year and he produced.  Talk about a tough player to find video of in 2012 though.

    7. I like Lamb but I am going to take Jenkins because of his ball handling ability.   He has a chance to be a lesser (but taller) version of Lou Williams.

     

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  • #650425
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    Michael Kidd Gilchrist- i think Barnes is gonna be a ]20+ppg scorer but i still feel that Gilchrist is gonna be better. Gilchrist has a great blend of raw tools and heart that you only see in all time greats. 

    Bradley Beal- Beal has a chance to be an elite shooter with his picture perfect form. Not to mention you add in his good athleticism thick frame and the fact that he is solid at every other aspect combined with a hard work ethic i think he will be the top guard in this draft class.

    Lillard: Lillard is somewhere in between Curry and Fredette and i think he will be a solid nba player hes got solid everything and good size and a great jump shot and hes very efficient. Marshall besides being an exceptional passer and big is subpar at everything. He doesnt have much of a jumpshot nor is he very fast he is also a liability on defence. I need to see some improvement in his shooting for him to be a starter in this league.

    Henson: The nba is loaded with athletic 4s like Moultrie. I think he will be a rotational player in the league but nothing special. I dont find henson to be much better as its pretty much a foregone conclusion that he wont be adding anymore bulk. He has a nice role that he can fill as a nice midrange shooter and shotblocker that cant bang down low. 

    White: I like Green and his nba iq a lot but his athletic deficiency will hurt him in the league he will be a nice role player i just like White better as they are identical players its just White is more athletic,

    Mitchell:  I dont know too much about either of them but i like Mitchell better because i believe he is more likely to come back to school next year and hone his skills. If harkless comes out this year than he struggle to get playing time.

    Lamb: i like Lamb by a tiny bit. Jenkins has more of a role but im pretty close to positive that Jenkins will be a daquaen cook type player throughout his career nothing more nothing less. I like Lamb better just because i feel that he has a higher ceiling than him.

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  • #650431
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    1. Harrison Barnes vs Michael Kidd-Gilchrist

    MKG – I see him as a very unique player. I believe his jumpshot is not as bad as some people say and he is only a freshman who will obviously put in the work to make it better. I think Barnes will never be a number one option so it is a question of who will be the number two. I think MKG’s passing skills and overall winning attitude make him my #2 prospect in this draft.

    2. Brad Beal vs Jeremy Lamb

    Beal – He is better his freshman season than Lamb is in his sophomore. I see Beal as a 2nd option and Lamb as a third, so I gotta go with Beal.

    3. Kendall Marshall vs Damian Lillard

    Marshall – I don’t think Damian Lillard is really that special. I wouldn’t take him before the 20s in this deep of a draft. People are saying Marshall is the best passing PG since Jason Kidd. Despite his shortcomings athletically, you have got to take a guy who is that good of a passer.

    4. Arnett Moultrie vs John Henson

    Moultrie – This one is REAL REAL close. I honestly had a hard time deciding. I know that Aran is real high on Moultrie and I will give him the advantage just because I usually trust Aran when he is this much higher on someone than other sites. I think he has higher risk/higher reward than Henson.

    5. Royce White vs Draymond Green

    White – I like Draymond Green a lot and these 2 are pretty similar when it comes to versatility, but White is like Green but even more versatile. He is honestly the PG for Iowa State which is ridiculous. I’m a suck for versatility so give me Royce.

    6. Tony Mitchell vs Moe Harkless

    Mitchell – Again real close. I just think that Mitchell will be able to find a niche in the league better than Harkless. Harkless reminds me of a Donte Greene type, whereas I can see Mitchell being able to play PF more and getting rebounds and being able to contribute more.

    7. John Jenkins vs Doron Lamb

    Lamb – I just don’t see that killer instict in Jenkins. He will have a good game that will make you think damn this is the next Ray Allen, then he will just play average for 5 games. With Lamb I see that killer instict every game and I think he can be a good 6th man off the bench in the league.

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  • #650442
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     MKG over Barnes: This is really tough, but MKG is a better slasher and defender.  Barnes may have the higher upside, but Kidd-Gilchrist is the safer pick, with his aggressiveness, athleticism, and versatility.

    Beal over Lamb: Beal is the more complete offensive player, and plays with more consistent effort.  Some of Lamb’s deficiencies are accentuated by his team’s struggles, but Beal is the superior passer, slasher, and is a more physical and athletic player.

    Lillard over Marshall:  Marshall has outstanding court vision and good size, but is weak otherwise.  He won’t get the passing angles he gets in college in the NBA, where defenders will play him aggressively and won’t be overwhelmed by his teammate’s athleticism.  I don’t think Lillard will be a star, but he is a low risk prospect.

    Moultrie over Henson: I think Henson is just too thin and he doesn’t look like he can gain too much weight.

    White over Green: I am not high on either, but I think White is more athletic so his perimeter game will translate more to the NBA.

    Lamb over Jenkins: Lamb is more athletic and looks like a superior defender.  Both are great shooters, but Lamb has a more complete game.

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