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- Posted on: Thu, 06/14/2012 - 1:11am #40217
Seamo15ParticipantPerry Jones has seen a dramatic drop in the last few weeks, currently sitting at 21 in .net mock draft. Is this a result of being a scapegoat to others rises? I really dont see how he can have fallen so low, he showed a strong performance at the combine . I think he should still be lottery.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/14/2012 - 1:35am #681324
Meditated StatesParticipantTo 21. I think a dose of KG and Doc will take him to where he should be. Steal of this draft. C’s grab him Harkless or Royce and this will be a good draft.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/14/2012 - 1:55am #681325
vulture711ParticipantA 6’11" guy who shies from contact and averaged 1/2 a block a game ? Really no instintcs and has looked bad in workout matchups. At the combine struggled against T Jones and White and is struggling with his permiter shots in team workouts. All sizzle and no steak. With other Baylor kid is terrible as well
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/14/2012 - 2:01am #681326
theballerwayParticipantseriously hype is the key it seems. If Baylor were a media darling itd be so different. that just means about 19 gms will end up ooking foolish for passing on him.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/14/2012 - 2:13am #681332
PulseGlazerParticipantIt’s not hype – it’s workouts. He sees himself as a 3, but his skills in workouts haven’t been impressive for that position. The dude is so Tim Thomas it hurts, except Tim had more range.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/14/2012 - 2:18am #681335
Meditated StatesParticipantI was laughing. I thought he was the best prospect coming into that draft. Big mistake. Jones wont bust at 21 in the draft. That’s a no risk pick with all upside. I like Rivers being his coach with KG as a mentor. He will get a lot of easy baskets playing with the triple double machine. Celtics need rebounding and scoring he fits well. He can play multiple positiins.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/14/2012 - 2:37am #681338
JoeWolf1He’s a more hyped Earl Clark, who ended up going #14 a couple years ago. People looked at him in the top 10, but his lack of true position( very similar to PJIII ) landed him in the late lotto.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/14/2012 - 2:50am #681342
delfamParticipant^ yeah pretty much, I like the Earl Clark comparison, he should be a PF but doesn’t have the skillset to be a SF and both don’t have a killer instinct.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/14/2012 - 3:15am #681348
PulseGlazerParticipantWhile I love the Celtics at developing talent, are we sure KG wouldn’t make him cry himself to bed every night?
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/14/2012 - 3:29am #681351
surveParticipantPJIII seems to have Lebron syndrome too. Too much good guy in him with no mean streak to think of. (Lebron gets away with it because of immense talent.) Quincy Miller on the other hand has a mean streak. Perry Jones could learn some fundamentals from KG, but he cant learn intensity or fire.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/14/2012 - 3:35am #681354
Meditated StatesParticipantNo where near as much footspeed. Not even similar besides height. Like I said it depends on what you expect. PJ3 scoring 10 a game and grabbing 6 plus as a rooking would help the C’s. He could get 6 points easy finishing dunks from Rondo. I though Earl Clarke sucked before the draft. I just don’t view them the same.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/14/2012 - 3:43am #681358
JoeWolf1^Earl was actually a better 3 point shooter than Perry and a similar FT shooter. Perry has a nice "looking" jumper, but he’s no dead eye. Settling for 15 footers, and missing over and over, actually took him out of his rythim multiple times this season.
Earl Clark recorded a faster agility time and was .16 seconds slower than Perry on the 3/4 court sprint. He’s fast too, and has more lateral quickness than Perry. He’s bulked up considerably now, so maybe not anymore, but as a prospect in the NBA draft they were, in fact, very similar.
I think they’re very similar in the fact they are guys who execs drool over their overall skillset, but they don’t fit a position in the NBA. They handle and pass the ball great for their size, but not really good enough to be a wing player in the NBA. They also both don’t have much of a killer instinct.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/14/2012 - 3:50am #681361
Meditated StatesParticipantThe way I view prospects they are not similar. I believe PJ3 is a better mid range shooter. He has more handle. Moves better without the ball and scores better inside than Earl ever did. He will be better than Earl. Perry has no hype he is a expected bust. He knows it. Now all he has to do is prove them stupid just like Rajon did.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/14/2012 - 4:06am #681365
JoeWolf1Not saying he won’t be better than Earl, I think he’s a 10 and 5 player at the next level. Earl was more of a point forward and distributer and Perry did operate more around the rim, but whether you believe me or not, they’re very similar from a size and athletic standpoint and both don’t have a true position at the next level.
That’s why Earl is 25 lbs heavier and playing PF right now. He actually had better handle than Perry and he didn’t cut it as a 3. No two players are 100% the same. That’s why comparisions are flawed, but I do see a lot of similariteis between the two. You may not, but one thing is for sure, Perry’s hype still remains in the background. It never goes away, when you talk about Sebastian Telfair, Greg Oden, Lebron James, any big name high school prospects whether they bust or become the greatest player in the league when their name is brought up, the hype is remembered.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/14/2012 - 4:08am #681367
fliptonnParticipantPeople are talking about him like since he can’t play SF right now that he won’t get drafted high. Even if he can’t dribble the ball he’s still a fairly strong 6’11 with room to add weight and an almost 40 in vert. The guy can touch 12 ft. Add the fact that he CAN put the ball on the floor and has a jump shot, I’d say there’s no way this guy doesn’t go top 15. If Scott Skiles, Byron Scott, Kevin McHale, Lawrence Frank, or Mark Jackson gets a hold of him they will toughen him up real quick. Having him at 21 behind Moe Harkless and Arnett Moultrie who do the sames things but worse.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/14/2012 - 4:57am #681376
Lotto StudParticipantDon’t be surprised if he goes #5 to Sacramento since the Donte Greene experiment did not work.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/14/2012 - 5:04am #681379
JoeWolf1^So they’d draft a similar player with similar concerns as a failed experiment with the #5 pick? I don’t think that is a likely possibility. Perry Jones is not a top 5 pick.
Donte Greene was a low risk high reward pick at #28. They’re not going to try to replace him with a top 5 pick.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/14/2012 - 5:15am #681382
Lotto StudParticipantI just don’t see Jones not going top 10
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/14/2012 - 5:37am #681403
theballerwayParticipantJust cant see him going past 15th at very worse. Drafting outside of the 1st 8-10 your not really expecting a franchise changer out the gate are you. Some guys have to developed. he spent the last to years playing center pretty much . guys like Vince carter have developed handles over the course of a summer. T-mac could handle in the hallf court his rookie year either thinking about Toronto.
love the Tim thomas comparison tho- except Tim was a gunner through n through. He maybe physically similar to Clark but thats all I see. As I guy said Clark was like a point forward, pooooooor mans Lamar Odom all most.
Man I just think next year we’re gonna talking bout how shocking good his play is. The Nba game is so much more open than college. His lengthy strides can make up for some of his ball handling issues and for the record he handle just as well if not better than the almight A.Davis at the same height and similar weight (yet everyones convinced Davis is ready for the post play of the league).
Just get him a decent coach man
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/14/2012 - 6:17am #681416
OldSkoolBasketballParticipantthe guy said he wants to model his game like Durants. Thats not him at all.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/14/2012 - 6:24am #681420
Lotto StudParticipantWhat’s wrong with wanting to be like the best player in the league? Everyone wanted to be like Mike including you.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/14/2012 - 7:32am #681454
Sewok15ParticipantI really hope the Sixers take him.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 04/24/2014 - 3:28pm #893064
imAboutDatActionParticipantbump.
well, i can see why he was droppin.for the people sayin no way he drops oput the lottery, well he did LOL. went 28th.
Perry may be on his way out the league if he doesnt show big improvements going into the next year. was getting DNP’s this year and even Andre Roberson was starting over him at one point.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 04/24/2014 - 3:28pm #893175
imAboutDatActionParticipantbump.
well, i can see why he was droppin.for the people sayin no way he drops oput the lottery, well he did LOL. went 28th.
Perry may be on his way out the league if he doesnt show big improvements going into the next year. was getting DNP’s this year and even Andre Roberson was starting over him at one point.
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