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- Posted on: Fri, 09/11/2009 - 12:21pm #8556
JoeWolf1There has been a lot of talk lately on here as to whether Tracy McGrady or Vince Carter are Hall of Famers. What about Paul Pierce? I think yes.
18,600 points at 32 years old. a conservative estimate is 22,000 points for his career.
8 time all-star
never an NBA 1st teamer, but 1 time all-NBA 2nd team and 3 time all-NBA 3rd team
NBA Champion and Finals MVPWhat do you guys think?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 09/11/2009 - 12:23pm #212017
d-grizzlyParticipantif he proves he can lead the celtics this year back to the finals, i see no reason why not to ya know?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 09/11/2009 - 12:23pm #212018
JNixonParticipantO yea…..Pierce is a lock for the Hall of Fame. The only thing holding him back in the 1st place was not having a title, now he does so he’s set.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 09/11/2009 - 1:35pm #212024
sheltwon3ParticipantI dont really see it because unless he wins another title, there are lot of players that deserve to be in that have not and the need to get in before he does.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 09/11/2009 - 2:01pm #212034
festar35ParticipantHe is going into the Hall of Fame for sure.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 09/11/2009 - 2:34pm #212037
Michael.S.ParticipantI say no, he won a champonship with another sure-fire HOFer, and another borderline HOFer, he was purely a scorer on a horrible team past age 30, and wasn’t even an elite player at those times, i dont see it.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 09/11/2009 - 2:44pm #212038
bobbygillerI think another major factor leaning in Pierce’s favor for the Hall is the fact that he has played his entire career for one team unlike T-Mac and Vince who have bounced around to a few different teams. Many people don’t realize some of Pierce’s accomplishments on one of the most storied franchises in the NBA, he ranks top 10 in games played, field goals, 3-pointers, free throws, rebounds, assists, steals, blocks, and points scored, virtually every category. Not only is he top 10 in most of those categories, he is top-5 in most of them and by the time he retires he will likely be the teams all time leader. Pierce has had a major impact for the Boston Celtics whereas T-Mac and Vince are known as great players but have never had a major impact in winning a championship nor have they had loyalty to a certain team like Pierce has.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 09/11/2009 - 3:08pm #212041
JNixonParticipantThe Celtics weren’t horrible all of Pierce’s career..you guys have to remember with him and Antoine Walker were on that team they made it to the playoffs a decent number of times. They weren’t special, but they were a playoff team. Maybe the horrible teams he was on for the 2 seasons before the Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett trades are the freshest on ya’ll brains, but the Celtics weren’t the best team in the early 2000’s but they did make the playoffs most of those years and were a pretty competitive team.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 09/11/2009 - 3:51pm #212053
llperezI’m leaning towards yes. But I don’t think a prime Piecre was bettter then either a prime TMac or Vince. But one thing Pierce has going over both of them is a title and being more consistent and healthy. So I say yes he’s in.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 09/11/2009 - 4:20pm #212056
JoeWolf1There are a lot of Hall of Famers that aren’t first ballot guys. Pierce may not be a first ballot HOFer, but I think his resume will get him in down the line.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 09/11/2009 - 4:56pm #212059
Michael.S.ParticipantFlaming Fakes !!!!!!!!!!!!!
0 - Posted on: Fri, 09/11/2009 - 5:10pm #212063
McWinningParticipanti agree i think he will be because of winning a title otherwise it would be pretty close between those three.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 09/11/2009 - 6:21pm #212079
billykParticipantEasy first ballot HOFer… He was borderline HOFer and winning a championship put him in… Dude had an impressive career especially considering what happen in his rookie year….
0- Posted on: Fri, 09/11/2009 - 7:29pm #212083
ItsVictorOladipoParticipantHe certainly deserves to be in the HOF at least over Carter at this point.
Paul Pierce: 8 all-star games, never a first team all NBA
Prime 5 years(2001-2003, 2006-2007): 25.0 PPG – 26.1 PPG,
5.9 RPG – 7.3 RPG, 3.1 APG – 4.7 APG,1 SPG -1.9 SPG
Career: 22.9 PPG, 6.3 RPG, 3.9 APG, 1.6 SPG, 44.3 FG%, 36.6 3-P%, 79.8 FT%Vince Carter: 8 all-star games, never a first team all NBA
Prime 5 years (2000-2001, 2005-2007): 24.2 PPG – 27.6 PPG,
5.5 RPG – 6.0 RPG, 3.9 APG – 4.8 APG,1 SPG – 1.6 SPG
Career: 23.5 PPG, 5.5 RPG, 4.3 APG, 1.2 SPG, 44.7 FG%, 37.6 3P%, 79.6 FT%Both came into the league at the same time, and both have had eerily similiar production but Pierce has that championship ring and NBA finals MVP award to his credit so I’ve got to give the edge to him. As you can see from their prime years as well, Pierce was just as impressive as VC in his prime he was just underrated around the league at the time.
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- Posted on: Sat, 09/12/2009 - 7:18am #212132
gcb3ParticipantQuote me. These players below will ALL be in the HOF:
Ray Allen
Kobe Bryant
Vince Carter
Tim Duncan
Kevin Garnett
Grant Hill
Dwight Howard
Allen Iverson
Lebron James
Jason Kidd
Karl Malone
Reggie Miller
Alonzo Mourning
Dikembe Mutombo
Steve Nash
Dirk Nowitski
Shaquille Oneal
Chris Paul
Paul Pierce
Scottie Pippen
Dwyane Wade
Chris WebberPossible other HOF players. However possibly more production needed:
Carmelo Anthony
Gilbert Arenas
Chauncey Billups
Chris Bosh
Kevin Durant
Pau Gasol
Manu Ginobili
Tracy Mcgrady
Ben Wallace
Tony Parker
Brandon RoyWho am I leaving out?
I feel like there are other definite HOFs and also some others in the discussion for being on the cusp.
Thanks,
0 - Posted on: Sat, 09/12/2009 - 8:22am #212136
JoeWolf1In my opinion you can’t put young guys like Chris Paul, Lebron, Wade, and Dwight Howard in the HOF quite yet. They are young and if they continue to produce like they have been, yes, they probably will be in the HOF. I think all of those guys would be in the possible HOF players. It would be really unfortunate, but injuries happen. You could have said after a couple years into Ralph Sampson’s career, Penny Hardaway, Grant Hill or Larry Johnson’s career, or countless others that they were future HOFers, but they have had injuries cut their careers and productivity short. I think CP3, Lebron, Dwight Howard, and Wade need to play longer and accomplish more before you can say they are sure fire HOFers.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 09/12/2009 - 4:36pm #212210
gcb3ParticipantJoeWolf. I couldn’t agree with you more.
They are on the list only because of their production so far, not for their possible faults in the future. I should have put them on the “more production needed” list.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 09/13/2009 - 1:57pm #212362
Meditated StatesParticipantAs one of the Celtics all time leading scorers and he has a ring. He is in 4 sure. Has been underrated defensively his entire career. P has always played good D.
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