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  • #8556
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    JoeWolf1

    There has been a lot of talk lately on here as to whether Tracy McGrady or Vince Carter are Hall of Famers. What about Paul Pierce? I think yes.

    18,600 points at 32 years old. a conservative estimate is 22,000 points for his career.
    8 time all-star
    never an NBA 1st teamer, but 1 time all-NBA 2nd team and 3 time all-NBA 3rd team
    NBA Champion and Finals MVP

    What do you guys think?

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  • #212017
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    d-grizzly
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    if he proves he can lead the celtics this year back to the finals, i see no reason why not to ya know?

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  • #212018
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    JNixon
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    O yea…..Pierce is a lock for the Hall of Fame. The only thing holding him back in the 1st place was not having a title, now he does so he’s set.

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  • #212024
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    sheltwon3
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    I dont really see it because unless he wins another title, there are lot of players that deserve to be in that have not and the need to get in before he does.

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  • #212034
    festar35festar35
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    He is going into the Hall of Fame for sure.

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  • #212037
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    Michael.S.
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    I say no, he won a champonship with another sure-fire HOFer, and another borderline HOFer, he was purely a scorer on a horrible team past age 30, and wasn’t even an elite player at those times, i dont see it.

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  • #212038
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    bobbygiller

    I think another major factor leaning in Pierce’s favor for the Hall is the fact that he has played his entire career for one team unlike T-Mac and Vince who have bounced around to a few different teams. Many people don’t realize some of Pierce’s accomplishments on one of the most storied franchises in the NBA, he ranks top 10 in games played, field goals, 3-pointers, free throws, rebounds, assists, steals, blocks, and points scored, virtually every category. Not only is he top 10 in most of those categories, he is top-5 in most of them and by the time he retires he will likely be the teams all time leader. Pierce has had a major impact for the Boston Celtics whereas T-Mac and Vince are known as great players but have never had a major impact in winning a championship nor have they had loyalty to a certain team like Pierce has.

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  • #212041
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    JNixon
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    The Celtics weren’t horrible all of Pierce’s career..you guys have to remember with him and Antoine Walker were on that team they made it to the playoffs a decent number of times. They weren’t special, but they were a playoff team. Maybe the horrible teams he was on for the 2 seasons before the Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett trades are the freshest on ya’ll brains, but the Celtics weren’t the best team in the early 2000’s but they did make the playoffs most of those years and were a pretty competitive team.

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  • #212053
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    llperez

    I’m leaning towards yes. But I don’t think a prime Piecre was bettter then either a prime TMac or Vince. But one thing Pierce has going over both of them is a title and being more consistent and healthy. So I say yes he’s in.

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  • #212056
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    JoeWolf1

    There are a lot of Hall of Famers that aren’t first ballot guys. Pierce may not be a first ballot HOFer, but I think his resume will get him in down the line.

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  • #212059
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    Michael.S.
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    Flaming Fakes !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • #212063
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    McWinning
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    i agree i think he will be because of winning a title otherwise it would be pretty close between those three.

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  • #212079
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    billyk
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    Easy first ballot HOFer… He was borderline HOFer and winning a championship put him in… Dude had an impressive career especially considering what happen in his rookie year….

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    • #212083
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      ItsVictorOladipo
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      He certainly deserves to be in the HOF at least over Carter at this point.

      Paul Pierce: 8 all-star games, never a first team all NBA
      Prime 5 years(2001-2003, 2006-2007): 25.0 PPG – 26.1 PPG,
      5.9 RPG – 7.3 RPG, 3.1 APG – 4.7 APG,1 SPG -1.9 SPG
      Career: 22.9 PPG, 6.3 RPG, 3.9 APG, 1.6 SPG, 44.3 FG%, 36.6 3-P%, 79.8 FT%

      Vince Carter: 8 all-star games, never a first team all NBA
      Prime 5 years (2000-2001, 2005-2007): 24.2 PPG – 27.6 PPG,
      5.5 RPG – 6.0 RPG, 3.9 APG – 4.8 APG,1 SPG – 1.6 SPG
      Career: 23.5 PPG, 5.5 RPG, 4.3 APG, 1.2 SPG, 44.7 FG%, 37.6 3P%, 79.6 FT%

      Both came into the league at the same time, and both have had eerily similiar production but Pierce has that championship ring and NBA finals MVP award to his credit so I’ve got to give the edge to him. As you can see from their prime years as well, Pierce was just as impressive as VC in his prime he was just underrated around the league at the time.

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  • #212132
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    gcb3
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    Quote me. These players below will ALL be in the HOF:

    Ray Allen
    Kobe Bryant
    Vince Carter
    Tim Duncan
    Kevin Garnett
    Grant Hill
    Dwight Howard
    Allen Iverson
    Lebron James
    Jason Kidd
    Karl Malone
    Reggie Miller
    Alonzo Mourning
    Dikembe Mutombo
    Steve Nash
    Dirk Nowitski
    Shaquille Oneal
    Chris Paul
    Paul Pierce
    Scottie Pippen
    Dwyane Wade
    Chris Webber

    Possible other HOF players. However possibly more production needed:

    Carmelo Anthony
    Gilbert Arenas
    Chauncey Billups
    Chris Bosh
    Kevin Durant
    Pau Gasol
    Manu Ginobili
    Tracy Mcgrady
    Ben Wallace
    Tony Parker
    Brandon Roy

    Who am I leaving out?

    I feel like there are other definite HOFs and also some others in the discussion for being on the cusp.

    Thanks,

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  • #212136
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    JoeWolf1

    In my opinion you can’t put young guys like Chris Paul, Lebron, Wade, and Dwight Howard in the HOF quite yet. They are young and if they continue to produce like they have been, yes, they probably will be in the HOF. I think all of those guys would be in the possible HOF players. It would be really unfortunate, but injuries happen. You could have said after a couple years into Ralph Sampson’s career, Penny Hardaway, Grant Hill or Larry Johnson’s career, or countless others that they were future HOFers, but they have had injuries cut their careers and productivity short. I think CP3, Lebron, Dwight Howard, and Wade need to play longer and accomplish more before you can say they are sure fire HOFers.

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  • #212210
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    gcb3
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    JoeWolf. I couldn’t agree with you more.

    They are on the list only because of their production so far, not for their possible faults in the future. I should have put them on the “more production needed” list.

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  • #212362
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    Meditated States
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    As one of the Celtics all time leading scorers and he has a ring. He is in 4 sure. Has been underrated defensively his entire career. P has always played good D.

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