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  • #67520
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    joe2324
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     We saw in his rookie season that his offensive post game is very very solid, but that is all he brings to the table. Which team or situation would be best to bring out a more rounded game from Okafor? Its a shame because his post game is soo good and I feel he can really be a valuable fit if he played better defense and improved other aspects of his game. 

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  • #1108463
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    If Clippers move on from Jordan, maybe they do a complete 180 from a defensive C to an offensive C. I still think Okafor has potential to be a really good scorer and still young enough to teach a few things as well on defensive end.

     Rebuilding teams like Atlanta, Dallas and Phoenix could also have a Look, although I feel they are more likely till wait till draft time and see if they get in a position to get Ayton or Bamba or Bagley.

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  • #1108464
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    Mr. 19134
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     Like 2 months before Melo even approved OKC in his list of teams i was on here saying a return of Kanter for him to pair with Kristaps would be a dynamic inside out frontcourt. It was obvious to me and has been working out really well in NY.

     

    So the most obvious fit imo for him would be Chicago to pair with Lauri.  Okafor and Markkenan are perfect fits offensively and Jah may have as much range on his jumper of Robin Lopez does anyway.

     

    Defensively Okafor is actually a good on ball post defender its just his PnR defense and overall defensive awareness is bad.  

    With that said Jah does have a 7’6" wing span and is much more mobile then given credit for.  Hes also a solid rebounder and usually can get 10 rebounds in over 30 minutes just based on his sheer size.

     

    Another misconception about Jah is that hes a slow it down low block player which isn’t true.  He actually prefers to face up from the elbows and take bigs off the dribble.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #1108474
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    Evan_Milberg
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    The Jazz seem like a good fit given that Gobert is out and Favors is on the trade block. If I’m the Jazz, I’d offer Exum and a future first for Okafor. I think it works for both teams. The Sixers get another young backcourt prospect to develop, which could be helpful if Fultz flames out. The Jazz get someone to pair with Favors until he’s traded, and then Okafor can play some 4 when Gobert returns.

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    • #1108476
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      Endlessknight
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      Okafor is an UFA at season’s end. Can’t see anyone giving up that much for him.

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  • #1108492
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    Andv1 Waiting
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     1) Wait out this season get in amazing shape and then have a say in where I play next season: As a potential starter Chicago,Spurs or Suns as a 6th man type player: OKC,Pelicans,Boston or Houston.. I just hope he doesn’t end up in GSW

    2) Force a trade to anywhere so I can play to try increase value..

    But to be fair I am not a huge fan of the 76ers GM as he seems like a worse version of Hinkie:

    Trades assets way for a player that may have been there-Futlz(judging by comments of both Magic and Ainge).

    Signs a player with a pretty big injury history so far to max deal and guarantees most of it..Don’t get me wrong Embiid is a beast and worth it if he can stay healthy but the risk is almost Yao ming/Andrew Bynum/Greg oden terriortory..

    Signs Covington to a big deal he is alright but 60+ mill alright I am not so sure..

    and has treated two top 10 picks like rubbish which then forces them to ask for a trade and makes them look bad and got next to nothing back in return compared to draft spot..For example Jrue holiday got you the Noel pick and then Noel got you Justin anderson?? So They have essentially traded a starter/past allstar for a role player…

    Don’t get me wrong they are a team on the rise but how much of it was Hinkie vs how much of it was Bryan C..Joel embiid(hinkie) Tanking so bad you get a pick that is Simmons(Hinkie) Having plenty of Cap room available(Hinkie),Drafting Dario S(trade back to get and got an asset) and Robert C vs Bryan C gets next to nothing for players, over pays players-Covington and Embiid(if he doesn’t stay healthy) and trades assets for a player that may have been there anyway…Worst case scenario would have been 76ers would have ended up with Taytum which wouldn’t have been the end of the world imagine: Embiid,Dario,Taytum,Reddick and Simmons…That would have been some crazy height,length and potential…

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #1108493
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     Boston Celtics are playing at a pace which will allow Okafor to play and contribute at a comfortable level.. They need the size as well, I think it could be a great fit.. Chicago not so much really would struggle with the style of play especially with Lauri.

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    • #1108495
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      Endlessknight
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      Both Noel and Okafor will be UFA this off-season. Have a feeling Boston goes for the home town guy.

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      • #1108498
        Robb_CRobb_C
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         I disagree, I think if Thibodeau can maximize Noels defensive potential hes a natural fit alongside KAT.

        Ainge has always coveted Okafor and I believe he makes the attempt to grab Okafor if the opportunity presents itself.. 

         

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  • #1108501
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    The Scare Crow Rises
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    He probally cant get Bobby Portis in a trade right now smh

    Id rather him rot away on our bench until it clicks into his brain that he has buy into our system or continue his career in a new jersey next year at a discounted rate, the thing is he could be helpful to us in a tough playoff series off the bench, there is still a place for guys like Okafor, its just they need to be instant offense guys off the bench types

     

     

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  • #1108521
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    Jr. ROXAS
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    I remember this guy killed KAT in their first matchup when they were rookies. Man, Jah has so much talent, it’s just sad he’s stuck in the wrong generation. His post footwork honestly, and neg me if you want, is the best in the NBA right now. It’s that good. Hope he finds a good team that will utilize his talents well.

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  • #1108528
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     The 76ers not picking up his option for next year has reduced his trade value further IMO as he could move on and his salary for next year wasn’t huge.

    His defensive limitations probably rule out a number of contenders and so might cap space as they may give up a late first rounder for a deal which could give them any perceived advantage over their opponents. Rebuilding teams want to keep hold of first rounders and have no interest in a rental or would want to keep cap space for salary dumps etc.

    Rebuilding teams will look at him as an FA but not to give an asset up for IMO.

    Boston have the Hayward exception so I think that could possibly be used partly on Okafor but I don’t think Ainge sends much back in return.

     

     

     

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  • #1108541
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     I don’t see the 76ers getting more than a second round pick or another guy whose option wasn’t picked up like Mario Hezonja for Jahlil Okafor at this point. It would be nice if the 76ers would just pull the trigger one way or the other regarding Okafor at this point. For some reason I envision him going to Atlanta or Chicago at this point.

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  • #1108549
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    Okafor’s not going any where until the trade deadline. Then he’ll go on auction to the playoff teams looking for a bench low post scoring rental. If not one wants him at the deadline then he’ll get a small buyout offer.

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  • #1108558
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    BeastMode716
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     And it was a Huge debate among Lakers fans at the time 

    I remember watching Okafor that season often b/c ALL year 100% of the Scouts said that Okafor & KAT were by a Mile the Two Best prospects 

    It was only after the Season that the D’Lo or Okafor debate erupted in the national media b/c KAT had risen to be a Lock at #1 & rightfully so. 

    In any case, this was the year Kentucky almost went Undefeated w/ a Super team that included Cauley-Stein, Booker, the Harrison twins & Towns but lost to a great Wisconsin team in the Final 4 before falling to a Great Duke team that featured 3 – 2015 first Rnd talents w/ Okafor, Justice Winslow & pg Tyus Jones 

    As a Lakers fan I wanted D’Lo & I am Really starting to think we made a BIG mistake giving up too quickly on D’Lo b/c I understand he’s not a super great passer but the NBA is about Scoring point guards & D’Lo can certainly score & he’s a very good 3pt shooter – he’s made for the moden NBA 

    Anyway, Okafor certainly has Great low post moves but I could Never get past the Okafor’s High School Scouting Report. I’ll paraphrase the report & I certainly encourage people to look it up for yourself: 

    "Jahlil Okafor – probably the Most advanced Low post game we have seen at the High School level in 20 years – maybe Ever…… BUT….. Okafor is a BELOW the Rim ball player…… He will Dominate at the NCAA level & he will certainly score at the NBA level……… BUT……. because Okafor plays Below the Rim he may be a MAssive Liability at the NBA level b/c he will Not be able to Rebound OR Defend the Rim at the Pro level…… And in the current Pro game the Lowest Common Denominator for team’s expectations at the Center position is Rebounding & Rim protection……" 

    I just could Never get past that….. I was Never that impressed w/ Okafor during his Rookie year b/c Sixers coach Brett Brown Never used him late in games. Brown – who I respect Immensely as a coach – would Constantly say "I Luv Jahlil, he’s a great kid & we are trying to get him to make decisions faster, shoot, make your low post move or pass b/c even though he can Def score at the NBA level we can’t have the 4 other players on the court w/ him stand around watching while he takes 12 seconds to run ISo’s moves when we are promoting a System that Emphasized Sharing the Ball & Defense……. Jahlil has obvious problems at the other end of the court (Defensive) but even at the Offensive end, we can’t just throw the ball into the Low block & stand around & watch b/c if players Stop moving their feet on Offense then they Stop moving their feet on Defense too……" 

    So this Narrative that Okafor just has bad luck to be stuck behind a Hall of Fame potential Talent in Joel Embiid when Phila barely used Okafor at all last year after Embiid was shut down w/ a knee injury. MCW put up Great #’s on a sub 20 win team, Okafor’s 17 ppg on an 18 win team are Something, I won’t completely dismiss it but there is a Reason teams won’t part w/ a meaningless late 2nd Rnd pick to get this supposedly Great offensive talent. 

    I just do not see how Okafor’s fits in the modern day NBA – he is Al Jefferson 2.0 – a decent back up Center on a 7 to 12 seed team w/ no aspirations to win anything 

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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