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  • #34286
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    valentine

    Oden 7’0 270 lbs

    Drummond 6’10 265 lbs

    who u got bit ches

    discuss.

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  • #612644
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    seniokas
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     I love this guy he always writes something funny

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  • #612646
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    Anton123
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     If you say coming out of college, it would have to be Oden, he was a first great true centre prospect in ages. He was super strong, super big, great shotblocker

    Drummond is more of a PF/C, with a more finesse game, I do believe such prospects are not that rare.

    However at this point Drummond is a young big with great potetial, Oden is a guy who has played 82 games in 4 years

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  • #612649
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    sammybuckeye13
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    Oden, in high school and college, was unlike any 7-footer I’ve ever seen…let’s not forget that as a freshman he lived up to every measure of hype, averaged 15-10-3 blocks, First Team All-America, led OSU to the national title game. When comparing them as prospects, ask yourself, "Would taking Andre Drummond over Kevin Durant based on potential be a no-brainer?"

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  • #612652
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    Greg Oden was considered by NBA Scouts as the next great Center and mentioned in the same breath as David Robinson and Hakeem. Drummond is not even mentioned by scouts as the #1 pick and I’ve read more than a couple quotes saying he’s not a franchise changer.

    Oden was a legit shot blocking Center who when healthy performed well. Drummond is healthy and has performed average so far this season.

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  • #612658
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    Tyrober
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     Oden by 100% was considered a better prospect. DunkingDogDuck is a funny guy

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  • #612659
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    JoeWolf1

     Oden, by far, sammybuckeye summed it up, Oden also shot 63% from the foul line with his left hand in college.  Drummond is shooting 33% with his dominant hand, Oden was a bigger, much more polished player and because of that I feel he had more potential.

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  • #612660
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    In college, Greg Oden was arguably the most dominant big man in the country. His presence around the basket was a force and he had a great post game, as well as a great knack for blocking shots.

    As a student at UCONN, I have attended many games this season, only to see Andre Drummond underachieve and be a disappointment. Although he does have length that leads to blocked shots, he also has a tendency to get in foul trouble. He has shown no form of a post game, no jump shot, and even airballed a free throw. He struggles from the line and gives off the impression that he can’t score unless its a wide open dunk.

    Hands down, Greg Oden is the better player. 

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  • #612662
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    I don’t even think Oden was arguably the best big in the country. He WAS the best in the country. He dominated the next best 2 in the National Championship game in Noah & Horford. If he could have stayed healthy he would have been a multiple all star by now, no doubt in my mind. Hell, he still can be. Drummond has been underwhelming thus far. I think Drummond gets better but Oden missed half the year and then came in and dominated right away. drummond has that ability but isn’t using it for some reason. He isn’t even close to Oden but there is no reason he shouldn’t be a double double guy night in and night out with a few blocks a game.

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  • #612664
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    JoeWolf1

     It’s a shame about Oden, I hope he can come back.  His last full game in the NBA he had 13 points 20 rebounds (11 offensive) and 4 blocks and I believe he was in the top 5 in blocks in only 23 minutes per game.  I felt he was finally putting it all together before he went down with his last injury.

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  • #612665
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    collins03
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     Drummond right now doesn’t even look to score! Lamb gives him the ball in the low post and waits for Drummond to execute a back to the basket post move, but quickly gets the ball back after Drummond refuses to make a basketball move. The only time I have seen Andre attempt to score in the low post has been when he does turn around, fadeaway jumpshots that often result in airballs. He will improve (he can’t really get much worse at this point) but I definitely do not see him as the number 1 overall pick in next years NBA Draft. 

    P.S. – He reminds me of Fab Melo due to his massive amount of hype and underwealming nature.

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  • #612766
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    IndianaBasketball
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    @JoeWolf1

    I was watching the game when he went down vs Houston… I sware I about had tears in my eyes. Just felt bad for that kid (he’s making millions, but still…) because I know personally how good of a person he is and how hard he works.

    But all of that is behind him now! Hopefully, he comes back strong.

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  • #612773
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    mikeyvthedon
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    I feel like our greatest bond is our unconditional support for Greg Oden, albeit from very different angles. It is difficult to use hindsight, but if you did, Oden was absolutely the "better prospect". He was further advanced as a player and he was the hands down #1 player in his class and in the 2007 Draft. ESPN, Scout and others still ranked Anthony Davis ahead of Drummond, which tells you something.

    There was a debate over Oden and Durant over who would be the #1 pick, but it was greatly in Oden’s favor. His major injuries arose after being drafted, but he had only broken his wrist prior to his drafting and apparently did well enough on physicals to still be considered the hands down #1 pick in the draft. Drummond is a lot more of a raw product than Greg, plus he did not have Greg’s back-to-the basket game or size.

    Drummond is probably even more athletic, but with the size difference favoring Greg and his ability to come onto the scene and immediately dominate, I would have to say Greg Oden was seen as a better big man prospect at the time. Drummond, to me, is maybe the best SINCE Greg Oden. Greg’s injuries have prevented him from being the All-Star, game changing big many thought, but I do not know if any healthy big man since would have the impact Greg would have on a game. Drummond is in this same build, mainly with his combination of physical and athletic ability, plus obvious talent. The next step is application, which is where Greg Oden was well ahead of him at a similar stage.

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  • #612778
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    JoeWolf1

     I hear you IndianaBasketball, I’ve always been an Oden supporter.  Grant Hill gives me hope that Greg Oden can bounce back, that and none of Oden’s injuries are considered the type that ends careers.

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  • #612784
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    I’ve seen a lot of basketball players, but none like Greg Oden.

    He was a monster. I’ll never forget this play vs North Central (Eric Gordon). Oden blocked a shot (kept it inbounds) and then threw it up court to Conley… Conley penetrated into the lane, but didn’t have anywhere to go… BUT Oden was trailing (beat like three North Central guards, including Eric Gordon, up the floor) and Conley dropped him the pass right around the free-throw line… The pass wasn’t that great and…

    Oden BOBBLED the ball, but just SNATCHED it up like sandpaper (he had to or else he would’ve traveled with it) and took off from right in front of the free-throw line off of two feet and dunked it with two hands (over a guy that was 6′ 9" 265 himself).

    It was one of the most amazing and freakish play I’ve ever seen (Vince Carter dunking on Chris Mullin is the most amazing I’ve seen in person). The whole crowd just looked around like this guy isn’t normal. They knew he was special and made for the NBA because you just don’t see many people being able to do things like that.

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  • #612786
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    Hale
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     I’m a huge Drummond guy and never liked Oden that much, but Oden was by far the better player. Not close at all.

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  • #612787
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    Steroid
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    Oden, and it’s not even close right now.  Not even Dwight Howard had the potential that Oden had.

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  • #612791
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    Hale
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    I don’t really agree with that. Oden was more polished and better coming out but Dwight’s ceiling was higher.

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