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- Posted on: Fri, 02/25/2011 - 7:01am #26300
The8thDeadlySinParticipantIMO, the Nets PF would be the key to this team being legit.. IMO, Wright could be huge!! He is a good compliment to Lopez.. Lopes is a guy who is glued to the floor and is slow moving.. Wright is a high flying, running, active big man.. If he would commit to rebounding, he could be a steal in the trade for the Nets.. Williams could turn this guy into a Josh Smith type offensive player…
What do you all think about Wright and do you think he starts over Humphries before the end of the year?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/25/2011 - 7:07am #500075
BKKnicksfanParticipantHumpries is one of the top rebounders in the NBA stat wise. Why would he be put on the bench?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/25/2011 - 7:07am #500147
BKKnicksfanParticipantHumpries is one of the top rebounders in the NBA stat wise. Why would he be put on the bench?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/25/2011 - 7:10am #500077
Anton123ParticipantMaybe they could get Sullinger in the draft, he’d be great, Lopez would stretch the floor with his midrange game for Sullinger to operate down low and Sullinger would do all the rebounding and boxing out inside
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/25/2011 - 7:10am #500149
Anton123ParticipantMaybe they could get Sullinger in the draft, he’d be great, Lopez would stretch the floor with his midrange game for Sullinger to operate down low and Sullinger would do all the rebounding and boxing out inside
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/25/2011 - 7:10am #500078
The8thDeadlySinParticipantThe same reason Reggie Evans struggles to have a starting role on any team he plays on that is worth a damn…
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/25/2011 - 7:10am #500151
The8thDeadlySinParticipantThe same reason Reggie Evans struggles to have a starting role on any team he plays on that is worth a damn…
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/25/2011 - 7:10am #500080
Meditated StatesParticipantHumphries stays on the glass.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/25/2011 - 7:10am #500153
Meditated StatesParticipantHumphries stays on the glass.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/25/2011 - 7:10am #500082
sammybuckeye13ParticipantI think Wright has loads of talent, he’s still only 23, but I’m not sure he’s the long term answer for that team. Brook Lopez, as we all know, is the worst rebounding talented 7-footer ever, and Wright can still get pushed around easily with his frame, and even though he has good defensive instincts he and Lopez would make an extremely soft front court. I like the backcourt of DWill and Morrow (DWill has never played next to a sniper 2-guard in the starting lineup) and I think in free agency they should pursue a PF, or someone who can play both forward spots. If I’m Billy King I’m going hard after someone like Zach Randolph in free agency, they have the perfect amount of cap room for him.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/25/2011 - 7:10am #500155
sammybuckeye13ParticipantI think Wright has loads of talent, he’s still only 23, but I’m not sure he’s the long term answer for that team. Brook Lopez, as we all know, is the worst rebounding talented 7-footer ever, and Wright can still get pushed around easily with his frame, and even though he has good defensive instincts he and Lopez would make an extremely soft front court. I like the backcourt of DWill and Morrow (DWill has never played next to a sniper 2-guard in the starting lineup) and I think in free agency they should pursue a PF, or someone who can play both forward spots. If I’m Billy King I’m going hard after someone like Zach Randolph in free agency, they have the perfect amount of cap room for him.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/25/2011 - 7:11am #500084
mikeyvthedonParticipantHe is long and athletic, but his durability has kind of halted his progression. I think he will get a lot more PT on New Jersey and I like the trade for the Nets because he was included. They really do need more scoring in the post, and Wright shows an upside to possibly having that ability. I do not think he is close to being as athletic as Josh Smith, but he might show a better ability to score in the post. I am looking forward to see how he fits with the team, but he always had pretty nice potential. In his one year at UNC, he put up 14.7 ppg and 6.2 rpg in 27.3 mpg. He was kind of stuck in Nellie’s dog house and did not have a lot of opportunity to play, plus he got hurt at times where it seemed like they could really use him. I see little reason to believe he does not have some ability to turn into a decent PF, and his development might be some huge hope for the Nets. The Warriors had a clogged front court and had drafted Ekpe Udoh/signed David Lee which lead to them not really having room for Wright. Their loss might be NJ’s gain. I do not know if he starts over Humphrie’s, who has been big time on the boards for the Nets, but he could be a much more effective scoring option in the long run. I hope he gets a chance to show what he has on a team that does have issues getting scoring in the post outside of Lopez.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/25/2011 - 7:11am #500157
mikeyvthedonParticipantHe is long and athletic, but his durability has kind of halted his progression. I think he will get a lot more PT on New Jersey and I like the trade for the Nets because he was included. They really do need more scoring in the post, and Wright shows an upside to possibly having that ability. I do not think he is close to being as athletic as Josh Smith, but he might show a better ability to score in the post. I am looking forward to see how he fits with the team, but he always had pretty nice potential. In his one year at UNC, he put up 14.7 ppg and 6.2 rpg in 27.3 mpg. He was kind of stuck in Nellie’s dog house and did not have a lot of opportunity to play, plus he got hurt at times where it seemed like they could really use him. I see little reason to believe he does not have some ability to turn into a decent PF, and his development might be some huge hope for the Nets. The Warriors had a clogged front court and had drafted Ekpe Udoh/signed David Lee which lead to them not really having room for Wright. Their loss might be NJ’s gain. I do not know if he starts over Humphrie’s, who has been big time on the boards for the Nets, but he could be a much more effective scoring option in the long run. I hope he gets a chance to show what he has on a team that does have issues getting scoring in the post outside of Lopez.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/25/2011 - 7:12am #500086
The lake show2Humpries is better than Wright so i see no reason for him to come off the bench
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/25/2011 - 7:12am #500159
The lake show2Humpries is better than Wright so i see no reason for him to come off the bench
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/25/2011 - 7:14am #500088
BKKnicksfanParticipantExactly. Brendan Wright is a guy who’s a 12th man. He hasn’t proven ANYTHING for Avery to say "Damn, I gotta move this Humpries guy to the bench"
In fact, doing that kills all your leverage when talking a new contract with Humpries.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/25/2011 - 7:14am #500161
BKKnicksfanParticipantExactly. Brendan Wright is a guy who’s a 12th man. He hasn’t proven ANYTHING for Avery to say "Damn, I gotta move this Humpries guy to the bench"
In fact, doing that kills all your leverage when talking a new contract with Humpries.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/25/2011 - 7:17am #500098
The8thDeadlySinParticipantI did say "before the end of the year" and that leaves some time for him to "prove" that he is a legit player…..
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/25/2011 - 7:17am #500171
The8thDeadlySinParticipantI did say "before the end of the year" and that leaves some time for him to "prove" that he is a legit player…..
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/25/2011 - 7:18am #500100
OhCanada-ParticipantWright hasnt shown anything since hes been in the league, he has been extremely dissapointing in a system tat he should have excelled in if he was going to be an NBA player at anytime. With that said he has never played with Deron Williams, and anything is possible when you play with a talent that good, and with that said lol Williams may help Humphries get extremely easy baskets.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/25/2011 - 7:18am #500173
OhCanada-ParticipantWright hasnt shown anything since hes been in the league, he has been extremely dissapointing in a system tat he should have excelled in if he was going to be an NBA player at anytime. With that said he has never played with Deron Williams, and anything is possible when you play with a talent that good, and with that said lol Williams may help Humphries get extremely easy baskets.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/25/2011 - 7:20am #500104
SwatLakeCityParticipant@Anton. Nets traded their draft pick this year to the Jazz in order to get Dwill so the chances of them getting Sullinger are very slim. (The only way they could get Sulliger or any PF for that matter is if they traded for a pick but don’t expect teams to be giving up Sullinger that easily he’s the real deal.) For now the Nets are stuck with Humphries and Wright.
For now I’d start Wright. You gotta crawl before you walk, walk before you run so unless Wright really shows he can rebound and play extremely much better than he did with the Warriors then he will just be used as Humphries backup for the rest of the year.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/25/2011 - 7:20am #500177
SwatLakeCityParticipant@Anton. Nets traded their draft pick this year to the Jazz in order to get Dwill so the chances of them getting Sullinger are very slim. (The only way they could get Sulliger or any PF for that matter is if they traded for a pick but don’t expect teams to be giving up Sullinger that easily he’s the real deal.) For now the Nets are stuck with Humphries and Wright.
For now I’d start Wright. You gotta crawl before you walk, walk before you run so unless Wright really shows he can rebound and play extremely much better than he did with the Warriors then he will just be used as Humphries backup for the rest of the year.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/25/2011 - 7:23am #500106
HitsterParticipantA player I could see the Nets maybe chasing via FA is David West, his contract demands may be lower than Z-Bo’s also. David West is slightly older than Z-Bo but he hasn’t played so many career games and hasn’t had some of the issues that Z-Bo has had over the years so might be a safer option.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/25/2011 - 7:23am #500179
HitsterParticipantA player I could see the Nets maybe chasing via FA is David West, his contract demands may be lower than Z-Bo’s also. David West is slightly older than Z-Bo but he hasn’t played so many career games and hasn’t had some of the issues that Z-Bo has had over the years so might be a safer option.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/25/2011 - 7:44am #500118
The lake show2Wait the pick is top 7 protected so doesn’t that mean if the pick is top seven the nets get to keep the pick?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/25/2011 - 7:44am #500191
The lake show2Wait the pick is top 7 protected so doesn’t that mean if the pick is top seven the nets get to keep the pick?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/25/2011 - 7:49am #500124
nateoak10ParticipantBW has a very good offensive game and blocks many shots. But he will get pushed around too easy. Not the rebounding Lopez needs
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/25/2011 - 7:49am #500197
nateoak10ParticipantBW has a very good offensive game and blocks many shots. But he will get pushed around too easy. Not the rebounding Lopez needs
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/25/2011 - 7:50am #500126
The lake show2oh wait the 2012 is unprotected
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/25/2011 - 7:50am #500199
The lake show2oh wait the 2012 is unprotected
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/25/2011 - 7:52am #500128
BKKnicksfanParticipantWait the pick is top 7 protected so doesn’t that mean if the pick is top seven the nets get to keep the pick?
The Warriors 2012 1st round pick is top 7 protected. The Nets 2011 1st round pick is not. In 2012, if the Warriors aren’t a bottom 7 team, their pick goes to Utah.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/25/2011 - 7:52am #500201
BKKnicksfanParticipantWait the pick is top 7 protected so doesn’t that mean if the pick is top seven the nets get to keep the pick?
The Warriors 2012 1st round pick is top 7 protected. The Nets 2011 1st round pick is not. In 2012, if the Warriors aren’t a bottom 7 team, their pick goes to Utah.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/25/2011 - 8:30am #500146
Vivid5292ParticipantI like the ideas of possibly picking up Z.Bo or David West, but let’s be real. Deron Williams is not re-signing with thoughts that those two can really make a difference. The Nets are in good postion for the next two years regardless. I’ve been thinking about two big options for the Nets- Next can just try to reel in Dwight Howard next year in free agency and team him up with Brook Lopez to have the East’s upgraded version of the Bynum & Gasol tandem and maybe even better. Or, they can convince Orlando to trade Howard for Lopez seeing that these teams are scared to lose their big named stars for nothing. Lopez has promise and a couple other pieces would/should do the job. Its not enough for Howard, but its better than trading for a injury-prone Bynum and an aging Gasol as some idiot of ESPN suggested. One way or another, Howard should be the main target of the Nets. Him & Deron Williams would be deadly. Howard never had a great point let alone a good one who is capable of feeding him the ball. That pick and roll option would be incredible.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/25/2011 - 8:30am #500219
Vivid5292ParticipantI like the ideas of possibly picking up Z.Bo or David West, but let’s be real. Deron Williams is not re-signing with thoughts that those two can really make a difference. The Nets are in good postion for the next two years regardless. I’ve been thinking about two big options for the Nets- Next can just try to reel in Dwight Howard next year in free agency and team him up with Brook Lopez to have the East’s upgraded version of the Bynum & Gasol tandem and maybe even better. Or, they can convince Orlando to trade Howard for Lopez seeing that these teams are scared to lose their big named stars for nothing. Lopez has promise and a couple other pieces would/should do the job. Its not enough for Howard, but its better than trading for a injury-prone Bynum and an aging Gasol as some idiot of ESPN suggested. One way or another, Howard should be the main target of the Nets. Him & Deron Williams would be deadly. Howard never had a great point let alone a good one who is capable of feeding him the ball. That pick and roll option would be incredible.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/25/2011 - 8:52am #500227
The lake show2Why can’t one of those two make a difference on a team that has super star Dwill, solid center in Brook and Allstar talent in Zbo or West? Plus a great shooter in Morrow?…where is there a better senario he can go too where a team will have the money to sign him?..Not Knicks,Miami,Spurs. That team would be better then the Hornets IMO and as far as the East, behind Chi. I think they could easily compete with the Heat,Orl,ATL,Boston(if they start to fall off)
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/25/2011 - 8:52am #500154
The lake show2Why can’t one of those two make a difference on a team that has super star Dwill, solid center in Brook and Allstar talent in Zbo or West? Plus a great shooter in Morrow?…where is there a better senario he can go too where a team will have the money to sign him?..Not Knicks,Miami,Spurs. That team would be better then the Hornets IMO and as far as the East, behind Chi. I think they could easily compete with the Heat,Orl,ATL,Boston(if they start to fall off)
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/25/2011 - 9:23am #500253
sheltwon3ParticipantSince when did Humpries become old and lack an offensive game. I know he is not great offensively but he may be 2 or 3 years older than Wright and he is better and stronger and just as athletic. Deron Williams will make Humpries look like the lottery pick he was supposed to be. Humpries had a couple of 20 pt games with double digit rebounds with Harris. Can you imagine what he could have playing with Deron Williams.
If Humpries gets a a decent 15 or a reliable one if he does have that shot, I can see him playing a Kenyon Martin type role on offense with better rebounding. I am not sure where Humpries defense is, it has been a while since I saw him play. I was suprised that Dallas game him up so fast and for cheap. A lot of teams didnt let him play but when they did, he would get mad rebounds. It kind of reminds me of how Love is getting minutes and getting crazy rebounds and is practically averaging a double double. No one should have been surprised because he got a lot of rebounds with small minutes last year.
Humpries has always shown athleticism and rebounding but lacked offensive polish and I heard that they said he played with low IQ. He is getting minutes and with Deron Williams, he will not need a high IQ is those rumors are true. He will need to get a most consistent jumper out to 15 to 17 range though.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/25/2011 - 9:23am #500180
sheltwon3ParticipantSince when did Humpries become old and lack an offensive game. I know he is not great offensively but he may be 2 or 3 years older than Wright and he is better and stronger and just as athletic. Deron Williams will make Humpries look like the lottery pick he was supposed to be. Humpries had a couple of 20 pt games with double digit rebounds with Harris. Can you imagine what he could have playing with Deron Williams.
If Humpries gets a a decent 15 or a reliable one if he does have that shot, I can see him playing a Kenyon Martin type role on offense with better rebounding. I am not sure where Humpries defense is, it has been a while since I saw him play. I was suprised that Dallas game him up so fast and for cheap. A lot of teams didnt let him play but when they did, he would get mad rebounds. It kind of reminds me of how Love is getting minutes and getting crazy rebounds and is practically averaging a double double. No one should have been surprised because he got a lot of rebounds with small minutes last year.
Humpries has always shown athleticism and rebounding but lacked offensive polish and I heard that they said he played with low IQ. He is getting minutes and with Deron Williams, he will not need a high IQ is those rumors are true. He will need to get a most consistent jumper out to 15 to 17 range though.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/25/2011 - 10:33am #500290
flyboyParticipantHumphries is doing exactly what is asked of him this season. Being physical, rebounding, and he’s really improved defensively. He’s a great fit next to Lopez, who doesn’t do the things Humphries brings to the table as effectively. Humphries would be a very good player in a platoon PF situation with Wright, who brings a different look at the position with his smooth offensive play and ability to score. With that said, Humphries is a FA at the end of the year, and I’m pretty sure the Nets are going to try to go after a big name at that position, through either a trade of free agency. PF isn’t as big of a problem for them as their wing play is, their defense is, and their overall depth is.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/25/2011 - 10:33am #500216
flyboyParticipantHumphries is doing exactly what is asked of him this season. Being physical, rebounding, and he’s really improved defensively. He’s a great fit next to Lopez, who doesn’t do the things Humphries brings to the table as effectively. Humphries would be a very good player in a platoon PF situation with Wright, who brings a different look at the position with his smooth offensive play and ability to score. With that said, Humphries is a FA at the end of the year, and I’m pretty sure the Nets are going to try to go after a big name at that position, through either a trade of free agency. PF isn’t as big of a problem for them as their wing play is, their defense is, and their overall depth is.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/25/2011 - 12:45pm #500311
ChrischiParticipantThe question is:
Is Humphries such a good rebounder that he makes Lopez look bad on the glass?
or
Is Lopez such a bad rebounder that he makes Humphries look good on the glass?
Humphries numbers are solid, but they don’t translate into wins, just like Kevin Love. What he needs is a jumper, than he could be solid, but I doubt he will ever be a legit starter. Lets not forget that last year this guy couldn’t even stay on the roster of the Mavs. I like his energy, he can have a few unexpected plays just thanks to his athleticism. With him on the floor the paint will be always a little crowded, what he needs is a consistent J.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/25/2011 - 12:45pm #500386
ChrischiParticipantThe question is:
Is Humphries such a good rebounder that he makes Lopez look bad on the glass?
or
Is Lopez such a bad rebounder that he makes Humphries look good on the glass?
Humphries numbers are solid, but they don’t translate into wins, just like Kevin Love. What he needs is a jumper, than he could be solid, but I doubt he will ever be a legit starter. Lets not forget that last year this guy couldn’t even stay on the roster of the Mavs. I like his energy, he can have a few unexpected plays just thanks to his athleticism. With him on the floor the paint will be always a little crowded, what he needs is a consistent J.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/25/2011 - 1:50pm #500361
BigDParticipantKris Humpries couldn’t stay on the roster with the Mavs? are you sure about this? The Nets wanted him because of what he was showing in the 15-20 minutes he was getting with them.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/25/2011 - 1:50pm #500436
BigDParticipantKris Humpries couldn’t stay on the roster with the Mavs? are you sure about this? The Nets wanted him because of what he was showing in the 15-20 minutes he was getting with them.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/25/2011 - 1:59pm #500371
The lake show2I remember synergy doing some type of research. A good rebounder is a good rebounder reguardless who they play with or what team they are on. Thats one of the few things that translates to any situation. And a good rebounder doesn’t mean someone who gets the rebounds that just comes to there area(Amare) it means a rebounder who gets those rebounds as well as rebounds out of there area (Love,Rodman,Camby)..I haven’t watched Humpries enough to know which one he is though.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/25/2011 - 1:59pm #500446
The lake show2I remember synergy doing some type of research. A good rebounder is a good rebounder reguardless who they play with or what team they are on. Thats one of the few things that translates to any situation. And a good rebounder doesn’t mean someone who gets the rebounds that just comes to there area(Amare) it means a rebounder who gets those rebounds as well as rebounds out of there area (Love,Rodman,Camby)..I haven’t watched Humpries enough to know which one he is though.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/25/2011 - 2:23pm #500379
B-ball fanParticipantYeah, Bargnani’s rebounding didn’t improve when Evans went down, so I doubt Lopez’s rebounding is dependent on not playing with Humphries.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/25/2011 - 2:23pm #500454
B-ball fanParticipantYeah, Bargnani’s rebounding didn’t improve when Evans went down, so I doubt Lopez’s rebounding is dependent on not playing with Humphries.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 02/26/2011 - 12:01am #500813
ChrischiParticipant@BigD
Naw, I remember him only getting a crap minutes.
EDIT: He averaged 12mpg, but I think they were only so high because of the Mavs injury struggle. After the trade with the Wizards and most of the guys healthy there was no need for him.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 02/26/2011 - 12:01am #500732
ChrischiParticipant@BigD
Naw, I remember him only getting a crap minutes.
EDIT: He averaged 12mpg, but I think they were only so high because of the Mavs injury struggle. After the trade with the Wizards and most of the guys healthy there was no need for him.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 02/26/2011 - 12:55am #500743
omphalosParticipantHumphries shouldn’t be starting on a playoff team, he’s pretty awful offensively. Watching him play today D-Will got him in a scoring position a number of times and he promptly turned it over. Low bball IQ would be an accurate assessment.
However, I don’t think Wright is the answer either. It’s actually a shame the Nets don’t have a lottery pick in this draft, because Kanter, Motiejunas and Val-whatever it is are all solid PFs who would fit with the Nets.
As for Lopez’s rebounding numbers, I think as has been said, a lot of it comes down to mentality, but with D-Will on the team I think we’ll see a rise in his numbers as he gets re-invigorated by the chance at relevance again. We know he can rebound better than this, so hopefully he’ll get back to it next season at the latest.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 02/26/2011 - 12:55am #500823
omphalosParticipantHumphries shouldn’t be starting on a playoff team, he’s pretty awful offensively. Watching him play today D-Will got him in a scoring position a number of times and he promptly turned it over. Low bball IQ would be an accurate assessment.
However, I don’t think Wright is the answer either. It’s actually a shame the Nets don’t have a lottery pick in this draft, because Kanter, Motiejunas and Val-whatever it is are all solid PFs who would fit with the Nets.
As for Lopez’s rebounding numbers, I think as has been said, a lot of it comes down to mentality, but with D-Will on the team I think we’ll see a rise in his numbers as he gets re-invigorated by the chance at relevance again. We know he can rebound better than this, so hopefully he’ll get back to it next season at the latest.
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