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  • #53789
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     A couple months back I created a topic about High School basketball not using shot clocks in multiple states. This time I would like to hear your opinions on the NCAA reducing it to 24 seconds, rather than keeping it to 35 since it was just a topic of discussion on College Game Day.

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  • #869674
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     I think that the shot clock change to 24 seconds would benefit the NCAA. It would benefit the nba prospects and the the players planning on going overseas because the shot clock would help them to get accustomed to the rules that they will be facing after college, seeing the NCAA is the only major league where the shot clock is at 35 seconds. NBA is 24, Overseas is 24, even WNBA is < 35. 

    It would also speed up the pace that the game is played at because with the 35 second shot clock the NCAA teams and players just run down the shot clock and wait to get a shot but with the 24 seconds, they would be forced to play faster. The waster a third of the posession just bringing the ball over half court, which still leaves them with about 24 seconds in the half court to run their offense which is a bit too much

     

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  • #869780
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     I think that the shot clock change to 24 seconds would benefit the NCAA. It would benefit the nba prospects and the the players planning on going overseas because the shot clock would help them to get accustomed to the rules that they will be facing after college, seeing the NCAA is the only major league where the shot clock is at 35 seconds. NBA is 24, Overseas is 24, even WNBA is < 35. 

    It would also speed up the pace that the game is played at because with the 35 second shot clock the NCAA teams and players just run down the shot clock and wait to get a shot but with the 24 seconds, they would be forced to play faster. The waster a third of the posession just bringing the ball over half court, which still leaves them with about 24 seconds in the half court to run their offense which is a bit too much

     

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  • #869686
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     I am all for it.  I agree with most of what Jay Bilas was saying.  

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  • #869792
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     I am all for it.  I agree with most of what Jay Bilas was saying.  

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  • #869700
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     I think extending player foul limits to 6 and adding jump ball instead of a possession arrow would be my primary focus. 

    I can see the argument for a shorter shot clock but I think the current shotclock helps players learning curves and executing basic offensive/defensive schemes.

     

     

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  • #869806
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     I think extending player foul limits to 6 and adding jump ball instead of a possession arrow would be my primary focus. 

    I can see the argument for a shorter shot clock but I think the current shotclock helps players learning curves and executing basic offensive/defensive schemes.

     

     

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  • #869708
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     dont like the idea at all. The nba gets away with it because it is a stars league where guys go one on one and theres lots of isos. Ncaa guys fir the most part dont have that ability and rely on moving the ball around to break down zones, adjust plays mid play, and overall use coaching tactics and strategy to find quality looks. The college game would get really sloppy with a 24 clock. 

     

    I enjoy both shot clocks for what they are. In the nba we get to see great players making one in one plays and we get tons of nick young and jamal crawford moments of streetball type showmanship

    In college we get to see more strategy and ability to use individual players strengths to beat the opponent

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  • #869814
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     dont like the idea at all. The nba gets away with it because it is a stars league where guys go one on one and theres lots of isos. Ncaa guys fir the most part dont have that ability and rely on moving the ball around to break down zones, adjust plays mid play, and overall use coaching tactics and strategy to find quality looks. The college game would get really sloppy with a 24 clock. 

     

    I enjoy both shot clocks for what they are. In the nba we get to see great players making one in one plays and we get tons of nick young and jamal crawford moments of streetball type showmanship

    In college we get to see more strategy and ability to use individual players strengths to beat the opponent

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  • #869717
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     I agree with LLPerez.  The overall quality of player is much lower in the ncaa’s.  I imagine the shooting percentages would plummet if this were to be put into affect.  Also, we would see a ton more teams pressing.  The ball handles would take 10 seconds to get the ball up and it would just be scrambles from then on.  The NCAA games court is not nearly as open as the NBA game is.  Scoring would become very difficult, but there would be more possesions.  I think this would create a much uglier game.  Maybe a 30 second shot clock would be a good compramise…

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  • #869823
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     I agree with LLPerez.  The overall quality of player is much lower in the ncaa’s.  I imagine the shooting percentages would plummet if this were to be put into affect.  Also, we would see a ton more teams pressing.  The ball handles would take 10 seconds to get the ball up and it would just be scrambles from then on.  The NCAA games court is not nearly as open as the NBA game is.  Scoring would become very difficult, but there would be more possesions.  I think this would create a much uglier game.  Maybe a 30 second shot clock would be a good compramise…

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  • #869723
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    I think that 24 seconds is a tad bit too low for the college shot clock.  I’d be happy with 28 seconds.  That would lower the shot clock by 20%.  

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  • #869829
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    I think that 24 seconds is a tad bit too low for the college shot clock.  I’d be happy with 28 seconds.  That would lower the shot clock by 20%.  

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  • #869725
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    I know this might be unpopular, but I think they should go with 4-quarters.  High school games are 8 minute quarters, NBA games are 12 minute quarters, so why not make NCAA 10 minute quarters?

    I think it gives players a slight advantage because there are more opportunities to talk to their coaches on what changes they need to make without burning a timeout.

    As for the shot-clock, I think 24 seconds is too little for college kids.  Hell, we watch the Milwaukee Bucks play the Charlotte Bobcats and 24 seconds isn’t enough for them to get a quality shot, I don’t think a bunch of college kids could do it but on the other hand, 35 seconds is way too much time.

    That’s the primary reason why some players can never get the "timing" right or when they get to the NBA they realize that it’s a very fast game.  Because they were literally walking up-court on every possession in college for a year or a few.

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  • #869831
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    I know this might be unpopular, but I think they should go with 4-quarters.  High school games are 8 minute quarters, NBA games are 12 minute quarters, so why not make NCAA 10 minute quarters?

    I think it gives players a slight advantage because there are more opportunities to talk to their coaches on what changes they need to make without burning a timeout.

    As for the shot-clock, I think 24 seconds is too little for college kids.  Hell, we watch the Milwaukee Bucks play the Charlotte Bobcats and 24 seconds isn’t enough for them to get a quality shot, I don’t think a bunch of college kids could do it but on the other hand, 35 seconds is way too much time.

    That’s the primary reason why some players can never get the "timing" right or when they get to the NBA they realize that it’s a very fast game.  Because they were literally walking up-court on every possession in college for a year or a few.

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  • #869753
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    im all for it.35 is jus too much, even womens college basketball is lower lol.

    it forces teams to get in their sets quicker and it will speed up the game. 
     

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  • #869859
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    im all for it.35 is jus too much, even womens college basketball is lower lol.

    it forces teams to get in their sets quicker and it will speed up the game. 
     

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  • #869900
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     Don’t like it, if you add the a 24 second shot clock you might as well add the NBA 3 point line because that’s where you will see most shots taken. Playing in one of the hardest districts in the state, no teams slack on defense and you have to execute every play correctly to get a open shot. No slip ups or wide open shots. In college I assume it’s the same, since it a higher level of basketball. Espically since most player coming out of highschool and stay for one year and leave doesn’t exactly help out.

    I think if they were to change the NCAA shot clock to 24 you will see more bad shots taken and the college game would shift more to offensive player that can score instead of defensive player. Which might lead to  even more small ball.

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  • #869795
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     Don’t like it, if you add the a 24 second shot clock you might as well add the NBA 3 point line because that’s where you will see most shots taken. Playing in one of the hardest districts in the state, no teams slack on defense and you have to execute every play correctly to get a open shot. No slip ups or wide open shots. In college I assume it’s the same, since it a higher level of basketball. Espically since most player coming out of highschool and stay for one year and leave doesn’t exactly help out.

    I think if they were to change the NCAA shot clock to 24 you will see more bad shots taken and the college game would shift more to offensive player that can score instead of defensive player. Which might lead to  even more small ball.

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