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  • #58630
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     Ok, let’s get this straight first. I am NOT a Kings fan. To be honest I don’t have a favorite team. Hence my name (UnbiasedObserver) however I live in Sacramento and have watched the Kings closely since the late 90’s and early 2000’s when they were cheated of a championship by Tim Donaghy and the refs in the 02 WCF. I don’t recognize the Lakers as the champions of that year since clearly they didn’t earn it. But that’s another story. 

    Now, I can see people are clearly confused about the impact Coach Malone had on the Kings. He was a very personable coach, likeable and respected. That is the ONLY thing I will miss about Mike Malone, he got good production out of Boogie and Gay.

     HOWEVER, he got WAY too much credit for the defensive improvement of the Warriors when he was with the team, most credit goes to a scheme change on the defensive end.

     Second, he’s not a good offensive coach and the Kings were reverting back to one on one ball to try and win games when clearly that doesn’t work. He is not an X’s and O’s coach or an experienced leader which is EXACTLY what a young team like the Kings needs.

    Third, this is partly to blame on Vivek Ranadive because he chose to hire Malone as head coach before selecting D’Alesandro as his general manager, and that led to tension from the beginning and Randive realized he may not have made the right choice.

    Fourth, his rotations were questionable at best, made very head scratching decisions on the court that nobody else understood. And his decisions have cost the Kings about 5 or 6 games that they should have won. Including blowing 20 point leads in consecutive games, and in both those games the Kings lost. I do t care how sick Cousins is, the Kings are a much better team than the Lakers, Pistons, Magic. No reason to get steadily beaten and outplayed by those pathetic teams, especially AT HOME. Malone doesn’t know how to close out games.

    Fifth, he is not good at developing young talent. McLemore is finally starting to come around and is being more agressive. That doesn’t have anything to do with Malone, Stauskas has struggled, he looks much worse than rookies usually do. And Malone didn’t realize he had an incredibly talented weapon in Ray McCallum who he seldom used and should have been backing up Darren Collision. Not Ramon Sessions.

    I’m not unhappy with this firing. And if the Kings hire George Karl. Then they come out as winners in this. You are lying to yourself if you think Malone is a better coach than George Karl.

    And I’ll finish by saying EVERYBODY has been questioning the Kings moves since new ownership took over. They traded for Rudy Gay, everybody was saying Gay was a cancer and could never play with Cousins and was a chucker. Instead he revitalizes his career and shooting a career best from the field. 

    They said signing Darren Collision was a mistake and letting Isaiah Thomas walk was stupid. How is I.T. doing in Phoenix right now? Not very good. How is Collision holding up in Sac? Much better than I.T. ever was. Hes turning out to be a better leader and defender than Thomas was. 

    I love how people can bash the Kings calling them a joke and tearing apart their personnel moves. Yet every single one of the transactions they have made, minus the Derrick Williams trade, (dude sucks) the Kings have made very smart moves and are on pace to shatter the 28 wins they have had the past two seasons.

    This franchise is on the right track, and if you think firing Malone is gonna set this team back. Then I’m sorry but you just aren’t very smart.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #959035
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     It seems to me that the Kings played hard for Malone. But they didn’t play hard in the one quarter when it truly matters. The 4th quarter. George Karl is a 4th quarter coach. Go get him Kings!!!

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  • #958897
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     It seems to me that the Kings played hard for Malone. But they didn’t play hard in the one quarter when it truly matters. The 4th quarter. George Karl is a 4th quarter coach. Go get him Kings!!!

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    • #959067
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       You’re a Celtics fan bro.  

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    • #958929
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      Magic Jordan
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       You’re a Celtics fan bro.  

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      • #959085
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        Stfu douche.

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      • #958947
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        Stfu douche.

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  • #959059
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     I.T. was averaging 15 and 4 in 23 mpg as the back up PG before he got hurt, DC is averaging 16 and 6 as a starter in 35 mpg. Kind of a weak argument, but I’d agree about resurgence of Gay. 

    I just think the timing was a little odd for the firing. Do they think Karl is going to make the Kings a playoff team this year??

     

     

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  • #958921
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     I.T. was averaging 15 and 4 in 23 mpg as the back up PG before he got hurt, DC is averaging 16 and 6 as a starter in 35 mpg. Kind of a weak argument, but I’d agree about resurgence of Gay. 

    I just think the timing was a little odd for the firing. Do they think Karl is going to make the Kings a playoff team this year??

     

     

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  • #959063
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     Whether it is George Karl they hire or someone else, it better pan out well because Mike Malone had this roster playing to their potential, arguably above it. He was getting MVP-caliber production from his best player and winning games with a healthy roster. 

    I think they should have let Malone finish out the season. He would have had this team, if healthy, contending for a playoff spot in the Western Conference and the Kings have had no continuity or success since the Chris Webber days. He deserved and earned the right to finish out the year, in my opinion.

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     Whether it is George Karl they hire or someone else, it better pan out well because Mike Malone had this roster playing to their potential, arguably above it. He was getting MVP-caliber production from his best player and winning games with a healthy roster. 

    I think they should have let Malone finish out the season. He would have had this team, if healthy, contending for a playoff spot in the Western Conference and the Kings have had no continuity or success since the Chris Webber days. He deserved and earned the right to finish out the year, in my opinion.

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  • #959091
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    First off, you definitely sound like a Kings fan.

    Second, no team is ever going to turn things around positively with a coach change in midseason. Team identities always take a long time to develop. I think Malone was starting to get a decent performance from this team, so he got fired a bit to soon in my opinion. 

     

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  • #958953
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    First off, you definitely sound like a Kings fan.

    Second, no team is ever going to turn things around positively with a coach change in midseason. Team identities always take a long time to develop. I think Malone was starting to get a decent performance from this team, so he got fired a bit to soon in my opinion. 

     

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    • #959107
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      LOL. You guys need to make up your minds. Am I Kings fan? A Celtics fan? A Bulls fan? A Pelicans fan? Y’all need to decide.

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    • #958969
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      LOL. You guys need to make up your minds. Am I Kings fan? A Celtics fan? A Bulls fan? A Pelicans fan? Y’all need to decide.

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      • #959015
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         You’re right, we really should have figured this out during the meeting we all had before you made this thread. We all sat down and talked about it. Let me go grab the stenographer.

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      • #959153
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         You’re right, we really should have figured this out during the meeting we all had before you made this thread. We all sat down and talked about it. Let me go grab the stenographer.

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  • #959040
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     I like George Karl, and I think he’d be a good hire for the Kings. I think he deserves to be a head coach again. I didn’t like that the Nuggets let him go the season he won COY. (To me that move made no sense) But I don’t think Karl would be the best hire, a good hire, yes, but not the best. Who would be the best, Mark Jackson. He has been praised as a players coach and that I think is exactly what the Kings need. I also think the Warriors letting him go after they had made the second round was unjust, but I have been proven wrong this year. But that is not to say Mark Jackson shouldn’t be a head coach again.

    The Kings need a player’s coach because of the team they have. (Boogie, Collison, and Gay come to mind.) They have a young team, and Jackson would definitely be willing to try new lineups to see what works best, something that Malone was willing to do but not often enough. Also I believe Jackson would realize what a great backup talent Ray McCallum is and would play him more often than Ramon Sessions. I also don’t think that Derrick Williams is as bad as some people think, he just needs to be given a chance in the right system. He could be an Al Harrington type of player, and Karl could indeed get that out of him, I don’t doubt that, but I think Mark Jackson would be more apt to get that out of him than Karl because of the kind of coach he is. 

    Don’t get me wrong, I think Karl would be a great hire for the Kings , I just feel Jackson would be even better, but that’s my opinion and I could be totally wrong.

    The only thing I know for sure is the Kings better find someone soon, or else they will suffer. I should know as an avid Jazz fan, Ty Corbin is NOT fit to coach an NBA team. He is a good assistant but not a good head coach. I watched the Jazz suffer with Corbin at the helm for 2 and a half seasons and am very happy the Jazz finally got rid of him and hired Coach Snyder in his place. The Kings would be smart to hire either Karl or Jackson or someone else quickly, before this season ends, possibly before the All star break, or mark my words, the Kings will suffer for it.

     

     

     

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  • #959179
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     I like George Karl, and I think he’d be a good hire for the Kings. I think he deserves to be a head coach again. I didn’t like that the Nuggets let him go the season he won COY. (To me that move made no sense) But I don’t think Karl would be the best hire, a good hire, yes, but not the best. Who would be the best, Mark Jackson. He has been praised as a players coach and that I think is exactly what the Kings need. I also think the Warriors letting him go after they had made the second round was unjust, but I have been proven wrong this year. But that is not to say Mark Jackson shouldn’t be a head coach again.

    The Kings need a player’s coach because of the team they have. (Boogie, Collison, and Gay come to mind.) They have a young team, and Jackson would definitely be willing to try new lineups to see what works best, something that Malone was willing to do but not often enough. Also I believe Jackson would realize what a great backup talent Ray McCallum is and would play him more often than Ramon Sessions. I also don’t think that Derrick Williams is as bad as some people think, he just needs to be given a chance in the right system. He could be an Al Harrington type of player, and Karl could indeed get that out of him, I don’t doubt that, but I think Mark Jackson would be more apt to get that out of him than Karl because of the kind of coach he is. 

    Don’t get me wrong, I think Karl would be a great hire for the Kings , I just feel Jackson would be even better, but that’s my opinion and I could be totally wrong.

    The only thing I know for sure is the Kings better find someone soon, or else they will suffer. I should know as an avid Jazz fan, Ty Corbin is NOT fit to coach an NBA team. He is a good assistant but not a good head coach. I watched the Jazz suffer with Corbin at the helm for 2 and a half seasons and am very happy the Jazz finally got rid of him and hired Coach Snyder in his place. The Kings would be smart to hire either Karl or Jackson or someone else quickly, before this season ends, possibly before the All star break, or mark my words, the Kings will suffer for it.

     

     

     

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  • #959042
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     When Ty Corbin is your coach, you might as well quit

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     When Ty Corbin is your coach, you might as well quit

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  • #959349
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    Sacramento took a step forward earlier in the season but lately are back to their losing ways as of late thus the firing. The organization has high expectations after committing to this core and extending contracts. If they don’t believe they can succeed with Malone coaching that is more then enough reason to make the change.

    Mark Jackson seems to be the most likely candidate unless Karl does take the position. 

     

     

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  • #959211
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    Sacramento took a step forward earlier in the season but lately are back to their losing ways as of late thus the firing. The organization has high expectations after committing to this core and extending contracts. If they don’t believe they can succeed with Malone coaching that is more then enough reason to make the change.

    Mark Jackson seems to be the most likely candidate unless Karl does take the position. 

     

     

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