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- Posted on: Sun, 02/27/2011 - 9:29am #26374
flyboyParticipantMichigan State has had a very disappointing season, at 16-11, 8-7 in the Big 10. Currently they are losing to Purdue, early in the second half of that game. Korie Lucious was dismissed from the team, Summers hasn’t progressed, they don’t get much off the bench, and they’ve been off defensively and offensively compared to previous seasons.
Lucas and Summers got a decent amount of publicity last season as potential first round picks, but this season it seems most have been quiet about their chances at making the NBA, both being seniors. Draymond Green has never gotten huge NBA hype but could very well be the best player for the Spartans. Keith Appling was pretty highly touted, and has gotten a lot of minutes as a freshman, showing some ups and downs. What do people think of these guys and their NBA potential, specifically Lucas and Summers? Also, do any of you think that the Spartans will make the tournament?
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/27/2011 - 10:40am #501767
abcdefghijklParticipantAccording to Lunardi the Spartans are currently in the tournament. Lucas to me, is an NBA player. He’s a good shooter and good at getting to the basket. As for Summers I’m not sure. He has played pretty inconsistently as of late. Kebler actually got the start over Summers today against Purdue. His minutes have really been down the last 3 or so games. I really like Draymond Green. He has some versatility, being able to shoot the ball and score on the block. He plays hard and is a pretty good rebounder for his size. I like his chances as an NBA prospect.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/27/2011 - 10:40am #501675
abcdefghijklParticipantAccording to Lunardi the Spartans are currently in the tournament. Lucas to me, is an NBA player. He’s a good shooter and good at getting to the basket. As for Summers I’m not sure. He has played pretty inconsistently as of late. Kebler actually got the start over Summers today against Purdue. His minutes have really been down the last 3 or so games. I really like Draymond Green. He has some versatility, being able to shoot the ball and score on the block. He plays hard and is a pretty good rebounder for his size. I like his chances as an NBA prospect.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/27/2011 - 11:14am #501785
JNixonParticipantLucas started the year slow, with the rust from the Achilles injury, and because he lost a degree or 2 of quickness from it. He’s getting better and better with his quickness coming back. I thought Lucas was the best leader in the nation as a Sophomore and Junior, and I think he can be a 2nd or at worst 3rd PG in the NBA because he’s quick, smart and a solid passer who can stick the mid-range shot.
Summers could latch on playing for a team that likes to run and shoot, but he has some work to do. I’ve always felt he’s the most naturally gifted MSU player, but will he ever get it? He does the same thing every year it seems. Has a strong start to the year, goes on long shooting slumps and gets in Coach Izzo’s doghouse, and then plays good again in the NCAA tourny. Michigan State might not make the tourny, but Summers is just too inconsistent. He has a solid shot spotting up or coming off screens from as far out as 22 feet, but he struggles to create off the dribble and he rarely seeks out contact. Although he can play great man D at times, also can fall asleep off ball on D and get bad fouls or blow-bys, which also makes Coach Izzo mad at him. He might have an outside shot at the 2nd round though. I wouldn’t be surprised AT ALL if he didn’t get picked.
Green doesn’t look the part, but he’s good. He rebounds, can score a little facing up, and he’s one of the very best passing bigs in the nation. He’d get abused on D in the NBA though. I don’t know about him as an NBA player.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/27/2011 - 11:14am #501693
JNixonParticipantLucas started the year slow, with the rust from the Achilles injury, and because he lost a degree or 2 of quickness from it. He’s getting better and better with his quickness coming back. I thought Lucas was the best leader in the nation as a Sophomore and Junior, and I think he can be a 2nd or at worst 3rd PG in the NBA because he’s quick, smart and a solid passer who can stick the mid-range shot.
Summers could latch on playing for a team that likes to run and shoot, but he has some work to do. I’ve always felt he’s the most naturally gifted MSU player, but will he ever get it? He does the same thing every year it seems. Has a strong start to the year, goes on long shooting slumps and gets in Coach Izzo’s doghouse, and then plays good again in the NCAA tourny. Michigan State might not make the tourny, but Summers is just too inconsistent. He has a solid shot spotting up or coming off screens from as far out as 22 feet, but he struggles to create off the dribble and he rarely seeks out contact. Although he can play great man D at times, also can fall asleep off ball on D and get bad fouls or blow-bys, which also makes Coach Izzo mad at him. He might have an outside shot at the 2nd round though. I wouldn’t be surprised AT ALL if he didn’t get picked.
Green doesn’t look the part, but he’s good. He rebounds, can score a little facing up, and he’s one of the very best passing bigs in the nation. He’d get abused on D in the NBA though. I don’t know about him as an NBA player.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/27/2011 - 11:33am #501790
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0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/27/2011 - 12:12pm #501815
YurpleHazEParticipantIT will probably take him a few years to get on a roster but i can see D. Green being a solid bench player…….
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/27/2011 - 12:12pm #501722
YurpleHazEParticipantIT will probably take him a few years to get on a roster but i can see D. Green being a solid bench player…….
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/27/2011 - 1:48pm #501774
teamjosh04ParticipantAdrien Payne is the only guy with a chance of doing anything notable in the NBA. I like Green but he is better suited for Europe. He could make a roster, but the money for him is overseas.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/27/2011 - 1:48pm #501867
teamjosh04ParticipantAdrien Payne is the only guy with a chance of doing anything notable in the NBA. I like Green but he is better suited for Europe. He could make a roster, but the money for him is overseas.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/27/2011 - 2:30pm #501812
flyboyParticipantI agree teamjosh, down the line he’s someone to look out for. I didn’t mention him solely because he’s obviously not ready, and not receiving a lot of PT, but someone as tall and long with the athletic ability he has is going to see recognition from scouts as he develops.
I do think, however, Lucas can be a 2nd/3rd PG in the league. He’s in a bad situation right now, where he’s having to be a feature scorer, which isn’t a role he’s suited for nor will be his role in the NBA. His A/T ratio isn’t pretty when looking at him as a prospect, but from what I’ve seen overall from him in his career, he can play the PG position decently. He’s pretty quick with the ball, he’s crafty, a good overall ballhandler/passer, he can shoot from the perimiter, he’s generally got good court vision, and he plays pretty good defense. He’s got all the makings of the type of guy you can bring in for 15 minutes and help initate an offense and someone who can create a little bit of offense for others, and generally doesn’t make mistakes.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/27/2011 - 2:30pm #501905
flyboyParticipantI agree teamjosh, down the line he’s someone to look out for. I didn’t mention him solely because he’s obviously not ready, and not receiving a lot of PT, but someone as tall and long with the athletic ability he has is going to see recognition from scouts as he develops.
I do think, however, Lucas can be a 2nd/3rd PG in the league. He’s in a bad situation right now, where he’s having to be a feature scorer, which isn’t a role he’s suited for nor will be his role in the NBA. His A/T ratio isn’t pretty when looking at him as a prospect, but from what I’ve seen overall from him in his career, he can play the PG position decently. He’s pretty quick with the ball, he’s crafty, a good overall ballhandler/passer, he can shoot from the perimiter, he’s generally got good court vision, and he plays pretty good defense. He’s got all the makings of the type of guy you can bring in for 15 minutes and help initate an offense and someone who can create a little bit of offense for others, and generally doesn’t make mistakes.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/27/2011 - 9:56pm #502091
teamjosh04ParticipantI wont argue with you there. Lucas could hang on with a team for a few years. Same can be said for Summers too, as much as I hate him, if he gets picked up by a run and gun team.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/27/2011 - 9:56pm #502187
teamjosh04ParticipantI wont argue with you there. Lucas could hang on with a team for a few years. Same can be said for Summers too, as much as I hate him, if he gets picked up by a run and gun team.
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