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  • #23611
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    Hi its Ben
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    I remember a year ago (or maybe more) this kid was really hyped up, and now, it seems as though he hasn’t been talked about as much anymore.  So I have a couple questions..

    Will he be a 1-and-done college player?

    What’s a GOOD comparison for him?

    Is he a 2-guard or 3-man?

    Will he be an All-Star in the NBA?

     

    Thanks for the feedback

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  • #448199
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    stanford hoops

    because hes been talked about for so long there isn’t much more to say about him

    there’s no clear cut comparison for him. he’s kinda raw yet still dominates because he is skilled has a great motor and doesn’t give up

    hes a one and done IMO

    He’s a three man not close to being a 2 man at this point and i dont think anyone considers him as a 2 now or in the future

     

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  • #448206
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    stanford hoops

    because hes been talked about for so long there isn’t much more to say about him

    there’s no clear cut comparison for him. he’s kinda raw yet still dominates because he is skilled has a great motor and doesn’t give up

    hes a one and done IMO

    He’s a three man not close to being a 2 man at this point and i dont think anyone considers him as a 2 now or in the future

     

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  • #448210
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    stanford hoops

    because hes been talked about for so long there isn’t much more to say about him

    there’s no clear cut comparison for him. he’s kinda raw yet still dominates because he is skilled has a great motor and doesn’t give up

    hes a one and done IMO

    He’s a three man not close to being a 2 man at this point and i dont think anyone considers him as a 2 now or in the future

     

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  • #448289
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     Well, he is a top recruit heading for Kentucky, which basically guarantees that he will be a one and done. I really don’t understand what happened with Gilchrist, not that dropping from 1 to 3 on the ESPN Top 100 is a big deal. For awhile 2011 was Gilchrist’s class, then, all of a sudden, Davis and Rivers come along and surpass him, very strange. Of course, it is ESPN, they had Wall ranked fifth in his class so you never know

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  • #448297
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    The Squirrelyq
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     Well, he is a top recruit heading for Kentucky, which basically guarantees that he will be a one and done. I really don’t understand what happened with Gilchrist, not that dropping from 1 to 3 on the ESPN Top 100 is a big deal. For awhile 2011 was Gilchrist’s class, then, all of a sudden, Davis and Rivers come along and surpass him, very strange. Of course, it is ESPN, they had Wall ranked fifth in his class so you never know

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  • #448307
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     Well, he is a top recruit heading for Kentucky, which basically guarantees that he will be a one and done. I really don’t understand what happened with Gilchrist, not that dropping from 1 to 3 on the ESPN Top 100 is a big deal. For awhile 2011 was Gilchrist’s class, then, all of a sudden, Davis and Rivers come along and surpass him, very strange. Of course, it is ESPN, they had Wall ranked fifth in his class so you never know

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  • #448301
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    stanford hoops

    Its pretty easy to figure out what happend. Most players ranked as the numbe rone player in there class as a freshman are rarely there as a soph. you start to watch them more and you start to see more of there weakness as well as other players catching up. Happens in college as well when players decide to come back to school

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  • #448309
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    stanford hoops

    Its pretty easy to figure out what happend. Most players ranked as the numbe rone player in there class as a freshman are rarely there as a soph. you start to watch them more and you start to see more of there weakness as well as other players catching up. Happens in college as well when players decide to come back to school

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  • #448319
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    stanford hoops

    Its pretty easy to figure out what happend. Most players ranked as the numbe rone player in there class as a freshman are rarely there as a soph. you start to watch them more and you start to see more of there weakness as well as other players catching up. Happens in college as well when players decide to come back to school

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  • #448363
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    dolla130
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    Will he be a 1-and-done college player? most likely off upside

    What’s a GOOD comparison for him? marvin williams

    Is he a 2-guard or 3-man? tweener

    Will he be an All-Star in the NBA? NO

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  • #448370
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    Will he be a 1-and-done college player? most likely off upside

    What’s a GOOD comparison for him? marvin williams

    Is he a 2-guard or 3-man? tweener

    Will he be an All-Star in the NBA? NO

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  • #448377
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    Will he be a 1-and-done college player? most likely off upside

    What’s a GOOD comparison for him? marvin williams

    Is he a 2-guard or 3-man? tweener

    Will he be an All-Star in the NBA? NO

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  • #448369
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    stanford hoops

    pretty much no one can predict if he’s gonna be a allstar int he nba while he is still a HS sr..lol

     

    Im pretty sure no one outside of the players or family thought these guys would be allstars

    Al hortford

    Micheal Redd

    Steve Nash

    Iggy

    ray allen

    Dwill

    Joe johnson

    and many others

     

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  • #448376
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    stanford hoops

    pretty much no one can predict if he’s gonna be a allstar int he nba while he is still a HS sr..lol

     

    Im pretty sure no one outside of the players or family thought these guys would be allstars

    Al hortford

    Micheal Redd

    Steve Nash

    Iggy

    ray allen

    Dwill

    Joe johnson

    and many others

     

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  • #448383
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    stanford hoops

    pretty much no one can predict if he’s gonna be a allstar int he nba while he is still a HS sr..lol

     

    Im pretty sure no one outside of the players or family thought these guys would be allstars

    Al hortford

    Micheal Redd

    Steve Nash

    Iggy

    ray allen

    Dwill

    Joe johnson

    and many others

     

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  • #448372
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    Gilchrest is Still one of the top players in his class.He is kinda caught between a 3 and a 4 but I think he will eventually settle into that small forward spot. He gets alot of his buckets down low, but at Kentucky im sure he will look to score more from the wing. You cant go too much off the ranking since its based primarily on the summer. Gilchrest had a very good summer, but davis and rivers were more impressive. He is still a one and done type of player and he should be impactful from day one at Kentucky. He should win a state title this year and be ready to bust onto the scene at kentucky.

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  • #448379
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    Gilchrest is Still one of the top players in his class.He is kinda caught between a 3 and a 4 but I think he will eventually settle into that small forward spot. He gets alot of his buckets down low, but at Kentucky im sure he will look to score more from the wing. You cant go too much off the ranking since its based primarily on the summer. Gilchrest had a very good summer, but davis and rivers were more impressive. He is still a one and done type of player and he should be impactful from day one at Kentucky. He should win a state title this year and be ready to bust onto the scene at kentucky.

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  • #448386
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    NJHooper95
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    Gilchrest is Still one of the top players in his class.He is kinda caught between a 3 and a 4 but I think he will eventually settle into that small forward spot. He gets alot of his buckets down low, but at Kentucky im sure he will look to score more from the wing. You cant go too much off the ranking since its based primarily on the summer. Gilchrest had a very good summer, but davis and rivers were more impressive. He is still a one and done type of player and he should be impactful from day one at Kentucky. He should win a state title this year and be ready to bust onto the scene at kentucky.

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  • #448375
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    stanford hoops

    i wasnt as high on Mike untill i watched the U.S.A games. he was dominate over there on the boards and midrange or down low scoring while stepping out to the three point line

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  • #448382
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    stanford hoops

    i wasnt as high on Mike untill i watched the U.S.A games. he was dominate over there on the boards and midrange or down low scoring while stepping out to the three point line

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  • #448389
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    stanford hoops

    i wasnt as high on Mike untill i watched the U.S.A games. he was dominate over there on the boards and midrange or down low scoring while stepping out to the three point line

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  • #448381
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    Im Your Father
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    How is his jump shot? I haven’t really seen much of Gilchrest aside from highlight tapes. 

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  • #448388
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    Im Your Father
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    How is his jump shot? I haven’t really seen much of Gilchrest aside from highlight tapes. 

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  • #448395
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    Im Your Father
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    How is his jump shot? I haven’t really seen much of Gilchrest aside from highlight tapes. 

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  • #448400
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    stanford hoops

    nice mid range. can hit from deep but not his strength right now. Hes one of the hardest players to compare with right now. More advance offensively Ron Artest at the same stage is one that comes to mind

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  • #448405
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    stanford hoops

    nice mid range. can hit from deep but not his strength right now. Hes one of the hardest players to compare with right now. More advance offensively Ron Artest at the same stage is one that comes to mind

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  • #448412
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    stanford hoops

    nice mid range. can hit from deep but not his strength right now. Hes one of the hardest players to compare with right now. More advance offensively Ron Artest at the same stage is one that comes to mind

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  • #448440
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    hiphopismylife
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    Gilchrist is a high-motor 3/4 man. He is really athletic and plays extremely hard. He plays to win and is a guy you would want on your team.

    The problem from what i’ve seen is that he doesn’t have an elite skill set. I think scouts are forced to project him as a small forward because of his size(6’7), but I think he is well under-skilled for an elite 3-man. His jumpshot is ugly and flat and he looks really sloppy handling the ball. He gets most of his points under the basket by driving, getting on the offensive glass, and finishing on dump offs.

    By going to Kentucky he’ll be a one and done because playing on such a balanced squad will mask one of the biggest question marks scouts have about his game, which is whether he can be a great scorer. Also, playing alongside a fast point guard like Marquis Teague should allow him to get out in transition a lot, which is where he is at his best.Had he decided to go to Villanova, i’m not so sure.

    A comparison is tough because his game is still rounding out, but down the line maybe he could be in the Gerald Wallace/Shawn Marion mold because of his defense, motor and rebounding ability.

    I personally don’t ever see him being an all-star but scouts are high on him. I really think his meal ticket will be at the defensive end, where he could eventually be a standout at the pro level.

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  • #448444
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    hiphopismylife
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    Gilchrist is a high-motor 3/4 man. He is really athletic and plays extremely hard. He plays to win and is a guy you would want on your team.

    The problem from what i’ve seen is that he doesn’t have an elite skill set. I think scouts are forced to project him as a small forward because of his size(6’7), but I think he is well under-skilled for an elite 3-man. His jumpshot is ugly and flat and he looks really sloppy handling the ball. He gets most of his points under the basket by driving, getting on the offensive glass, and finishing on dump offs.

    By going to Kentucky he’ll be a one and done because playing on such a balanced squad will mask one of the biggest question marks scouts have about his game, which is whether he can be a great scorer. Also, playing alongside a fast point guard like Marquis Teague should allow him to get out in transition a lot, which is where he is at his best.Had he decided to go to Villanova, i’m not so sure.

    A comparison is tough because his game is still rounding out, but down the line maybe he could be in the Gerald Wallace/Shawn Marion mold because of his defense, motor and rebounding ability.

    I personally don’t ever see him being an all-star but scouts are high on him. I really think his meal ticket will be at the defensive end, where he could eventually be a standout at the pro level.

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  • #448451
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    hiphopismylife
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    Gilchrist is a high-motor 3/4 man. He is really athletic and plays extremely hard. He plays to win and is a guy you would want on your team.

    The problem from what i’ve seen is that he doesn’t have an elite skill set. I think scouts are forced to project him as a small forward because of his size(6’7), but I think he is well under-skilled for an elite 3-man. His jumpshot is ugly and flat and he looks really sloppy handling the ball. He gets most of his points under the basket by driving, getting on the offensive glass, and finishing on dump offs.

    By going to Kentucky he’ll be a one and done because playing on such a balanced squad will mask one of the biggest question marks scouts have about his game, which is whether he can be a great scorer. Also, playing alongside a fast point guard like Marquis Teague should allow him to get out in transition a lot, which is where he is at his best.Had he decided to go to Villanova, i’m not so sure.

    A comparison is tough because his game is still rounding out, but down the line maybe he could be in the Gerald Wallace/Shawn Marion mold because of his defense, motor and rebounding ability.

    I personally don’t ever see him being an all-star but scouts are high on him. I really think his meal ticket will be at the defensive end, where he could eventually be a standout at the pro level.

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  • #448443
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    stanford hoops

    He fits as a three when he is on a team where he plays the three( u.s.a team) his handles and midrange are nice. when hes on his HS team he looks more like a four because that what his team needs from him.

    wayyyy to premature to predict if he has allstar ability though

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  • #448447
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    stanford hoops

    He fits as a three when he is on a team where he plays the three( u.s.a team) his handles and midrange are nice. when hes on his HS team he looks more like a four because that what his team needs from him.

    wayyyy to premature to predict if he has allstar ability though

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  • #448454
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    stanford hoops

    He fits as a three when he is on a team where he plays the three( u.s.a team) his handles and midrange are nice. when hes on his HS team he looks more like a four because that what his team needs from him.

    wayyyy to premature to predict if he has allstar ability though

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  • #448627
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    hiphopismylife
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    I’ve seen him playing the three and think hes much more effective inside. Yeah it’s early to predict, but we can give our feedback. I’ve always believed star-power shows at an early age. And when a guy isn’t great at getting his own shot without simply physically overpowering high school competition, it doesn’t translate to the next level the way a real breakdown wing’s game will. I’m not saying that he couldn’t be as valuable as some all stars, but in most cases all stars score and I just don’t see how he’ll score very well when he can no longer just overmatch under-sized opponents every play.

     

    Iggy wasn’t an all star either. Ray Allen was a highly touted recruit.And all of the perimeter players you mentioned all had better jumpshots and ability to create offense for themselves.

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  • #448635
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    hiphopismylife
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    I’ve seen him playing the three and think hes much more effective inside. Yeah it’s early to predict, but we can give our feedback. I’ve always believed star-power shows at an early age. And when a guy isn’t great at getting his own shot without simply physically overpowering high school competition, it doesn’t translate to the next level the way a real breakdown wing’s game will. I’m not saying that he couldn’t be as valuable as some all stars, but in most cases all stars score and I just don’t see how he’ll score very well when he can no longer just overmatch under-sized opponents every play.

     

    Iggy wasn’t an all star either. Ray Allen was a highly touted recruit.And all of the perimeter players you mentioned all had better jumpshots and ability to create offense for themselves.

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  • #448640
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    hiphopismylife
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    I’ve seen him playing the three and think hes much more effective inside. Yeah it’s early to predict, but we can give our feedback. I’ve always believed star-power shows at an early age. And when a guy isn’t great at getting his own shot without simply physically overpowering high school competition, it doesn’t translate to the next level the way a real breakdown wing’s game will. I’m not saying that he couldn’t be as valuable as some all stars, but in most cases all stars score and I just don’t see how he’ll score very well when he can no longer just overmatch under-sized opponents every play.

     

    Iggy wasn’t an all star either. Ray Allen was a highly touted recruit.And all of the perimeter players you mentioned all had better jumpshots and ability to create offense for themselves.

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  • #448645
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    midwestbbscout
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    that’s a good comparison….he’s definitely not a 2 but he’s really good….there was a time in the summer of 2009 where he was thought of as the best player regardless of class….better than Knight, Barnes, Sullinger, whoever so kid has game….

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  • #448652
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    that’s a good comparison….he’s definitely not a 2 but he’s really good….there was a time in the summer of 2009 where he was thought of as the best player regardless of class….better than Knight, Barnes, Sullinger, whoever so kid has game….

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  • #448659
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    midwestbbscout
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    that’s a good comparison….he’s definitely not a 2 but he’s really good….there was a time in the summer of 2009 where he was thought of as the best player regardless of class….better than Knight, Barnes, Sullinger, whoever so kid has game….

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  • #448846
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    hiphopismylife
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    Yeah midwest I remember hearing that. I even heard someone say BEST PROSPECT SINCE LEBRON. I’m not even close to buying that. But I appreciate his style of play.

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  • #448855
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    hiphopismylife
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    Yeah midwest I remember hearing that. I even heard someone say BEST PROSPECT SINCE LEBRON. I’m not even close to buying that. But I appreciate his style of play.

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  • #448860
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    hiphopismylife
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    Yeah midwest I remember hearing that. I even heard someone say BEST PROSPECT SINCE LEBRON. I’m not even close to buying that. But I appreciate his style of play.

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  • #450309
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    but he is still dam good…..I think Davis and Rivers are better and maybe even Quincey Miller…..but this class is str8 loaded….he might still be the best if he woulda skipped a grade actually….idk…that’s a pretty good question….I am pretty confident in saying the other 3 would be the top pick in this year’s draft….that sh*t is crazy when you think about it….more ammo against the one and done…. 

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  • #450278
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    but he is still dam good…..I think Davis and Rivers are better and maybe even Quincey Miller…..but this class is str8 loaded….he might still be the best if he woulda skipped a grade actually….idk…that’s a pretty good question….I am pretty confident in saying the other 3 would be the top pick in this year’s draft….that sh*t is crazy when you think about it….more ammo against the one and done…. 

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  • #450298
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    but he is still dam good…..I think Davis and Rivers are better and maybe even Quincey Miller…..but this class is str8 loaded….he might still be the best if he woulda skipped a grade actually….idk…that’s a pretty good question….I am pretty confident in saying the other 3 would be the top pick in this year’s draft….that sh*t is crazy when you think about it….more ammo against the one and done…. 

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  • #450355
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    delfam
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    he has all the intangibles and does the dirty work which is amazing for someone his age.I’ve seen him live a few times and his skill set just doesn’t fit a SF as he does all his work in the paint. Right now he reminds me of Thaddeus Young as they hustle and are good in the post but are undersized. If he adds a jumper with his intangibles he could be a Gerald Wallace type player.

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  • #450377
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    delfam
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    he has all the intangibles and does the dirty work which is amazing for someone his age.I’ve seen him live a few times and his skill set just doesn’t fit a SF as he does all his work in the paint. Right now he reminds me of Thaddeus Young as they hustle and are good in the post but are undersized. If he adds a jumper with his intangibles he could be a Gerald Wallace type player.

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  • #450387
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    delfam
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    he has all the intangibles and does the dirty work which is amazing for someone his age.I’ve seen him live a few times and his skill set just doesn’t fit a SF as he does all his work in the paint. Right now he reminds me of Thaddeus Young as they hustle and are good in the post but are undersized. If he adds a jumper with his intangibles he could be a Gerald Wallace type player.

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