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- Posted on: Fri, 05/27/2011 - 3:40am #29506
MJBrownParticipantIt has been noted that this years draft class is weak. It’s always too hard to tell how the crop is going to end up until the end of their first season. I remember 2 years ago before the Blake Griffin draft how everyone, including GM’s were calling the class weak. I think we’d all beg to differ today.
But regardless how we view this draft class one thing that seems apparent is that there is a lack of talent on the wing. Therefore, how in the world is Marshon Brooks not a lottery picks. We’ve learned from the past that kids that can score in college, especially in power conferences, in general (no, not always) have solid NBA careers. Brooks scored in the toughest defensive conference in America. I know that Providence didn’t have a whole lot of talent and that someone has to score on a lousy team, but how can one overlook a 50+ point effort. The guy is 6’5 and LONG. In today’s NBA, gm’s are looking for, what I like to call, athletic talent. How much better could Alec Burks and Klay Thompson be than this kid.
Marshon Brooks shouldn’t get past Phoenix. Those guys are starting to get old and I think he’d fit the system nicely. At the end of the day, I’d be shocked if he doesn’t end up in the top 20. Some teams are going to be mighty disappointed in themselves, especially those that are weak on the wing. Peace!!!
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/27/2011 - 5:34am #536614
sheltwon3ParticipantI agree MJBrown that he should be a least top 15 but I do hope he falls to the Knicks at 17. I think he would give Knicks more fire power and they can buy another pick and grab a big man.
0- Posted on: Fri, 05/27/2011 - 6:11am #536621
shipargosParticipantBrooks will be a nice player, a more intelligent Sam young.
But I think the knicks should go for Morris, a Pure Point that can develop under Chauncey and be their PG of be the future. Well, as you said maybe they can buy a pick a grab both.
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- Posted on: Fri, 05/27/2011 - 6:13am #536622
sideburn2goParticipantI think the problem with him right now is that he is viewed as being one dimensional, he’s really only a scorer and hasn’t proven much in other areas of his game. He doesn’t have great size and he’s got a real skinny frame. Although he does have good length which can be a plus on defense he has yet to figure out how to truly utilize it. The other problem with him is that dreaded P word potential, people think they know what they are getting from him and don’t see all that much room for growth. Don’t get me wrong I do love the guy and I think he can be a real good player coming off of someone’s bench at least for a couple years but he’s gonna have some work to do before making a name for himself in the L. I see him sticking somewhere in the 20-25 range although I’d love to see him climb higher.
0- Posted on: Fri, 05/27/2011 - 6:27am #536630
shipargosParticipantHe is an explosive scorer, with a powerfull first step (no step vert higher than most players). A true SG, agile, a decent passer and a strong rebounder, Not one dimensional, otherwise Durant would one dimensional, it simply doesnt make sense,
Korver is one dimensional, Sam Young is one dimensional( the guy can not rebound and make solid passes), Marshon is not, has a nice midrange game, can attack the bascket and would develop a 3pt shot.
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- Posted on: Fri, 05/27/2011 - 6:40am #536643
BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipantThe problem with Brooks is 18 shots per game and 2 assists combined with 8 Big East wins over his final 38 Big East games. The 33 percent from the college line doesn’t help either.
0- Posted on: Fri, 05/27/2011 - 6:48am #536650
MJBrownParticipant18 shots to score 24 isn’t all that bad. He’s a natural born score. His shooting stroke can always improve over time
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- Posted on: Fri, 05/27/2011 - 7:02am #536659
Mr. 19134ParticipantMarshon Brooks got a got an out rageous wingspan and also Kawhi Leonard size hands. Add hat to a 34 inch standing vert and a 39" max vert and you start to undersand why he was able to score at will last year in the Big East.
He in my mind is a top 15 talent. He also shot lights out at the combine under the lights and pressure of all the gm’s watching. Mashron finished top ten in the shooting drills making nearly 70% of the shots he attempted and we already know he can get it off whenever he wants. So why does he not warrent a top 15 pick? Didn’t Gerald Henderson go number 12 who is nowhere near the prospect Brooks is.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/27/2011 - 7:15am #536662
BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipantScore at will?
Louisville, 3-13 and 7-14 blowout L, W
Marquette, 7-18 and 7-16 2 blowout Ls
UConn, 7-22 blowout L
Nova, 4-15 W
West Virginia, 5-15 blowout L
Cinci, 12-26 12 point L
That is a little insulting to the teams that worked him and Providence over don’t you think?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/27/2011 - 7:45am #536671
ilike.panochasParticipantHe’s an non-efficient scorer to me and a volume shooter, much like Nick Young. But he does other things on the court that Young doesn’t besides scoring.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/27/2011 - 9:14am #536728
Ghost01ParticipantBTPH-
You are acting like he was playing with anybody at Providence. He wasnt in an easy situation. And in THIS draft, that is completely shyyyyt, i dont see why he cant get picked over some of these other 15-20 guys that mite not be good at anything. At least he can score.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/27/2011 - 9:35am #536746
JNixonParticipantMarshon Brooks will not be better than Nick Young. Young is actually relatively efficient as a scorer, and Brooks can’t shoot or slash as good as Young can, and he’s not the transition player or athlete Young is. Brooks to me is an inefficient volume scorer who doesn’t stand out anywhere else. He’s not a good defender, was an average rebounder in his 1st 3 years (or when he played with Greedy Peterson and was playing on the wing instead of as a PF), and he’s never won.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/27/2011 - 10:24am #536772
BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant"You are acting like he was playing with anybody at Providence. He wasnt in an easy situation. And in THIS draft, that is completely shyyyyt, i dont see why he cant get picked over some of these other 15-20 guys that mite not be good at anything. At least he can score."
People have been rewriting their assessment of Brooks for no good reason. Being 6′ 5", athletic, and having a big wingspan doesn’t change the season and career he had to this point. He was not scoring at will, was not overly efficient save for the ND and Georgetown games where they decided to make defense optional, didn’t create for anyone else, and nobody at Providence guarded anyone. Nobody can debate that, and he was just as tall, athletic, and long-armed last winter. He has great measurements for a shooting guard, and if some team wants to take a flier on him and hope to turn him into a useful player I have no problem. I feel that way about Scotty Hopson too. They have potential. The difference in numbers is that one was at Tennessee and the other Providence. Either way, they are a far cry from a lottery pick. The Big East has produced plenty of inefficient scorers who were even less efficient in the NBA (Harangody and Dominque Jones fit that bill last year).
Also, this isn’t the year to be talking down supporting casts, not when you want to be dismissive of Jimmer Fredette when he carried a horrible BYU team to the Sweet Sixteen. Purdue went 26-8 with two guys, neither of whom get lottery buzz. Those were bad situations where great college players made it work. Marshon Brooks never made it work at Providence.
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