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  • #27072
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    I always enjoy Heisler’s first mock because he doesn’t care about college basketball so he just goes with what he hears, and he has good sources in the league.

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-heisler-20110320,0,1509552,full.column

    In our annual salute to the NCAA tournament, here’s a mock draft of all potentially eligible players.

    Heights are as officially listed, meaning everyone is 1-2 inches shorter.

    Comparisons to NBA players are made advisedly, with every 6-6 prep wing player like Kobe Bryant billed as "Grant Hill with a jump shot."

    Of course, Kobe turned out to be Grant Hill with more than a jump shot.

    To quote the great draftnik, Chuck Berry, "’C’est la vie,’ say the old folks, it goes to show you never can tell."

    1. Kyrie Irving, 6-2, 185, Fr., Duke — The one great pick in draft. Admirers see the next Chris Paul (no, really), taller and a better shooter at same stage. . . . In game’s worst-kept secret, he’s coming out.

    2. Harrison Barnes, 6-8, 210, Fr., North Carolina — Do-everything big small forward, generally rated around No. 4 but is breaking out. Rated top freshman in class, he was lost until midseason when they put the ball in his hands.

    3. Enes Kanter, 6-11, 260, Fr., Kentucky — Turkish youth star, attended Simi Valley Stoneridge Prep, tore up top U.S. preps at 2010 Hoop Summit. . . . Ruled ineligible, he’ll be UK’s first none-and-done after all their one-and-dones.

    4. Jared Sullinger, 6-9, 280, Fr., Ohio State — Ton of fun, more like 6-7 but admirers see Kevin Love’s hands and otherworldly basketball sense, down to the half-the-length-of-floor outlet passes. . . . Not as good a shooter as Love at this stage but has more bounce.

    5. Derrick Williams, 6-8, 241, So., Arizona — Released from oral commitment to USC out of La Mirada, no offer from UCLA. . . . Long-armed, ambidextrous around hoop, averaged 19-8, shot 61%, and 61% on threes. Supposedly a lock for top five.

    6. Perry Jones, 6-11, 235, Fr., Baylor — Big, athletic but numbers were merely respectable (13.9 points, 7.2 rebounds). Ranked No. 2 by ESPN’s Chad Ford but skeptics see Tim Thomas.

    7. Jonas Valanciunas, 6-11, 240, Lietuvos Rytas, Lithuania — Just turned 18. Back-to-the-basket player, unlike most Euro-bigs.

    8. Terrence Jones, 6-8, 244, Fr., Kentucky — Lefty, Lamar Odom type. Rated No. 2 in mocks early when it looked like he could shoot (37% on threes until mid-January, six for 28 since.)

    9. Alec Burks, 6-6, 200, So., Colorado — Athletic shooting guard with playmaking ability.

    10. John Henson, 6-10, 220, So., North Carolina — Answering questions about slender physique, averaged 8.5 rebounds in first 14 games, 12.6 since.

    11. Kemba Walker, 6-0, 180, Jr., Connecticut — Shot just 43%, 34% on threes but got to line 7.6 times a game. . . . Averaged 26 to lead Huskies to Big East tourney title before half the NBA’s GMs.

    12. Jan Vesely, 6-11, 240, KK Partizan Belgrade, Serbia — Pau Gasol’s long limbs but not his touch.

    13. Kawhi Leonard, 6-7, 225, So., San Diego State — Tough small forward, averages almost 11 rebounds. Shooting range expanding; made nine of 24 three-point shots in last 10 games.

    14. Tristan Thompson, 6-8, 225, Fr., Texas — Long-armed lefty averaging 2.3 blocks a game.

    15. Donatas Motiejunas, 7-0, 225, Benetton Treviso, Italy — Lithuanian has length and touch, has gained weight, needs more.

    16. Brandon Knight, 6-3, 185, Fr., Kentucky — Could be eighth Wildcat to go in top 20 the last two years. Wasn’t the next John Wall, as billed, but long, athletic, shot 39% on threes and he’s an honor student.

    17. Jimmer Fredette, 6-2, 195, Sr., Brigham Young — Limited by chunky bod but sensational shooter who can get his shot.

    18. JaJuan Johnson, 6-10, 220, Sr., Purdue — Willowy as he is, averages 20.4, 8.4 rebounds, 2.3 blocks.

    19. Jordan Hamilton, 6-7, 220, So., Texas — Athletic shooter with game. Shed freshman rep as a pain.

    20. Marcus Morris, 6-9, 235, Jr., Kansas — Averages 17.3, shoots 59%, 36% on threes, but closer to 6-7.

    21. Mason Plumlee, 6-10, 230, So., Duke — Long, athletic. Role player, averaging 5.2 shot attempts, 8.4 rebounds, 1.6 blocks.

    22. Tobias Harris, 6-8, 225, Fr., Tennessee — Freakish athlete with expanding range.

    23. Trey Thompkins, 6-10, 245, Jr., Georgia — Not explosive but has game, finally in shape.

    24. Lucas Nogueira, 7-0, 225, Asefa Estudiantes, Spain — Billed as "Brazilian Marcus Camby" since getting 22-14 vs. U.S. in 2010 under-18 tourney.

    25. Demetri McCamey, 6-3, 205, Sr., Illinois — Another chunky Illini point, if not in Deron Williams’ class. Takes it to hoop, shot 46% on threes.

    26. Nolan Smith, 6-2, 185, Sr., Duke — Makeshift point guard but he’s a blur who’s made 35% of threes.

    27. Kyle Singler, 6-8, 230, Sr., Duke — A teens pick last spring. Dropped from 40% to 32% on threes but tough and a winner.

    28. Thomas Robinson, Kansas, 6-9, 237, So., Kansas — Raw but exciting athlete.

    29. Kenneth Faried, 6-8, 225, Sr., Morehead State — Less refined freak athlete, a.k.a. "6-8 Dwight Howard."

    30. Tyler Zeller, 7-0, 250, Jr., North Carolina — Filling out, coming on.

    Right there: Justin Harper, 6-10, 225, Sr., Richmond; Tyler Honeycutt, 6-8, 188, So., UCLA; Reggie Jackson, 6-3, 208, Jr., Boston College; Travis Leslie, 6-4, 205, Jr., Georgia; Markieff Morris, 6-10, 245, Jr., Kansas; Josh Selby, 6-2, 180, Fr., Kansas; Chris Singleton, 6-9, 225, Jr., Florida State; Jeremy Tyler, 6-11, 240, Tokyo Apache, Japan.
     

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  • #511553
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     The only picks I don’t agree with are Perry Jones going 6th, Montie missing the lottery by one pick, Henson making the lottery (I believe he will go mid first round), Tristian Thompson at 14 (whom I also believe will go mid first round), and Tobias Harris going in the first round (he’s a second rounder to me picked purely on potential).

    This is probably only a draftboard of who he believes are the best players in the draft, not really a mock draft which is done with team needs considered as well as other things.

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  • #511561
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  • #511914
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    no! Henson is Amir Johnson clone!

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  • #511915
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    i think henson will go late lotto.  Great rebounder and shotblocker

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  • #517169
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    http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-nba-coast-20110403,0,980692,full.story

    Here’s a mock draft update, finessing my way into position to claim I was right all along.

    The big change is the debate about No. 1 — which will depend primarily on who gets the pick.

    Numbers in parentheses are my pre-NCAA tournament rankings.

    1 (t). Kyrie Irving (1) — Some see Chris Paul II, more see a better Ty Lawson.

    I’m going with those who see greatness, even if Irving was only good in the tournament coming off his injury.

    If Cleveland, Toronto, Sacramento or Utah (with New Jersey’s pick) is No. 1, it’s him.

    1 (t). Derrick Williams (5) — Now top three, two or one.

    If Washington, which has John Wall, gets the No. 1 pick, it’s him.

    Or . . .

    3. Enes Kanter (3) — Listed at 6-10, 240, the weight looks right . . . as a low estimate.

    If he’s 6-9, Minnesota or Washington could take him No. 1 as an Al Horford-type center.

    At whatever height he is, Kanter got 34 and 13 in the 2010 Hoop Summit against Jared Sullinger, Harrison Barnes, et al.

    4. Jonas Valanciunas (7 ) — Slender but the GMs sharpest on Euros say he could be a Pau Gasol.

    Says a scout of Kantner and Valanciunas, "If they played college ball in the U.S., they might be 1-2."

    5. Barnes (2) — Not ready but who is?

    Not gifted at small forward where the athletes play, but has great feel, attacks, plays on the move.

    I love him, but when I miss, all I have to do is write "Oops."

    6. Sullinger (4) — Not coming out but deserves this salute.

    I don’t like comparisons to anomalies like Dennis Rodman or Kevin Love — but I think he’s Love Child II.

    7. Perry Jones (6) — On pure appeal since he’s like a 6-11 guard. Baylor made the Elite Eight with Ekpe Udoh, didn’t make 68-team field with him.

    8. Kemba Walker (11) — Not big or a knock-down shooter but totally clutch, taking a young team through Big East tourney and loaded West bracket.

    9. Terrence Jones (8) — Great-looking 6-9 athlete but production slipped as others stepped up for Kentucky.

    10. Alec Burks (9) — Major shooting guard prospect, should go higher.

    11. Brandon Knight (16) — Shot his way, literally, into lottery. Not a great penetrator but a knock-down shooter who defends.

    12. Jan Vesely (12) — Admirers see Andrei Kirilenko.

    13. John Henson (10) — Slender at 6-10, but answered questions about toughness, so far.

    14. Jeremy Lamb (NR) — UConn soph, billed as Wes Johnson but better. Surfaced so recently, it’s not known if he’s coming.

    15. Reggie Jackson (NR) — Boston College point, moving up, not just because I missed him. Big, athletic, considered third best behind Irving, Knight.

    16. Kawhi Leonard (13) — Not a player you often see. Try Luc Mbah a Moute with Kobe Bryant handle.

    17. Tyler Zeller (30) — Major mover. Filled out, got tougher and can shoot.

    18. Lucas Nogueira (24) — Closely-watched 7-foot Brazilian, in next week’s Hoop Summit.

    19. Donatas Motiejunas (15) — Young, skilled, basket-facing Euro-type big man.

    20. Kenneth Faried (29) — Morehead State senior, animal rebounder if only, like, 6-6. Nice tab by ESPN’s Chad Ford.

    Then there’s Jimmer Fredette (17): Still in first round but scouts see him as a sharpshooting reserve, not a starting point.

    —Mark Heisler

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  • #517249
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  • #517250
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    The lake show2

    i think i read this a week or two ago. I read it thinking i like this Mock

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