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  • #47924
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    Entropy
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    He has been on an absolute tear recently. By that i mean he is playing like the second best player in basketball behind only Lebron. If you don’t believe me check out his last 16 games.

    36.4 mpg
    24.8 ppg (48% FG , 82% FT)
    8.6 apg
    5.2 rpg
    1.5 spg
    0.6 bpg
    2.7 tov (!)

    PER of ~29.

    His season averages are 18/7.6/4 (45% FG) in 32 mins which equal 20/8.5/4.5 per 36. We shouldn’t forget that he has also been playing great defense, and the wizards have been winning games with him. The thing that makes all this quite bizarre is that wall had a horrible month in February then ever since early march he has been playing out of his mind.

    I believe the biggest reason for his improvement is his jumpshot. He is not afraid to take the jumper, especially the pull from the right side from where is shooting around 50% ! This opens up the lane so much for him, as he is getting to the line 9 times a game in this stretch.

    In my opinion 16 games is a reasonable sample size. Especially considering the level he was playing at. I don’t think he will keep this up but i don’t think he will play too much worse than he has been playing. I would certainly like to see more games before making absolute conclusions.

    This run probably isn’t sustainable for wall but it shows us what he can be . I fully expect Wizards to offer Wall the 5 year max and make the playoffs next season with wall in the all star game. In fact he probably would have been in the all star game this season if he wasn’t injured.

    What do you think? Just an amazing hot streak, or is this the Wall we have all been expecting?

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  • #761371
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    CAROLINA BLUE NICK
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    I believe this is the Wall that we been expecting. That injury did wonders for his game. Plus Wall is a competitive guy. I remember reading about how he hated seeing guys like Paul George and Kyrie grow into all star caliber players while he was just sitting watching the Wizards lose. Plus i’m sure he heard the people that were ready to write him off. Wall just needed to play more under control. Wall always played at one speed which was fast. He has better change of pace speed now. He was always a great passer and ball handler. He just played wild at times. Plus a guy like Rondo shows you that you don’t necessarily need a jumper to be a great point guard. But Wall has developed one. I haven’t watched that many Wizard games to see how consistent his jumper is other than that 40 point game he had against the Grizzlies. But it looks much better than years past. I believe Wall will be an all star next year as well, especially if the Wizards are in the playoff race come next years all star weekend.

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  • #761373
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    Reddinggsn
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    I think John Wall is going to be an All-Star down the line. We have to remember, he is only 22 years old and still learning the NBA game. Wall has leadership ability and can be an elite scorer inside and out. He still needs to work on his shooting, but it appears to be coming along just fine.

    This is the John Wall we expected to see and the John Wall we will see for many years to come. He will have Washington contending for the playoffs next season, guaranteed. The roster is slowly developing for him with complimentary players like Beal and Nene. I think Washington should get a low-post scorer in the draft like Zeller or Gobert.

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  • #761374
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    I completely agree that this 16 game stretch is a relatively small sample size; that said Wall is playing out of his mind. I think he’s somewhere in between the player he was last year and the superstar he has been this year.
    I think in his prime, Wall has the potential to be an 18-8 guy, which can definitely land him on some all-star teams even in the PG heavy east.
    I also think the injury may have been a blessing in disguise, as it allowed him to work on his jumper as well as the intricacies of the PG position. Wall is a young 22 and has just as much star potential as anyone in his age group, and I think the Wizards would be making a big mistake not to offer him a max deal at seasons end.

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    • #761382
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      huh, “potential to be a 18-8 guy”

      Do you realize he is averaging that right now in 32 minutes? His potential is much higher.

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      • #761389
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        huh, “potential to be a 18-8 guy”

        Do you realize he is averaging that right now in 32 minutes? His potential is much higher.
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        Agreed. He was a 16-8 guy as a 20 year old rookie. If his ceiling is 18-8, then he’ll be a bit of a disappointment.

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  • #761381
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    KHAM83
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    Watch out for WASH next year. Some expected them to contend for a playoff spot this year, but that faltered due to Wall’s injury. Next year, armed yet again with another lotto pick, they will def be a playoff team. Off the top of my head, I think they can contend for home court advantage. MIA, NY, Indy…am I missing anyone?
    Just think Wall and Beal backcourt, Okafor a double-double machine. Nene is overpaid ya, but still a beast. And in the East, having bigs like Okafor and Nene is huge. Singleton has been playing the 4, but I think he can be a defensive, 3 point shooter just like Ariza at his best. Serepahin is a nice big off the bench. They need to add depth at guard. If Vesely can figure it out, plus which ever rookie they draft, then wow

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  • #761383
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    akhan786
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    I think the biggest difference is that he’s finally healthy and fit. You can just see he’s back with a bounce in his step as well as his speed.

    I think also now he has players around him that finally fit his style of play.

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  • #761390
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    ilike.panochas
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    I expect 20-10 or 20-9 next season for Wall. I also expect the Wizards to be one of the top 5 teams in the East next season, with Wall and Beal carrying the team to atleast a 5th seed. Young guys like Vasely and Seraphin needs to take their game to the next level and you could be looking at one of the deepest team in the league, plus another lottery draft this year.

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  • #761391
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    AZcats09
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    I should clarify what I said in my last post…. I think he can be better than an 18-8 guy….he could even be like a 24-10 guy. I think he will be most efficient at 18-8 however and keep his shooting over 45%. For example chris paul could probably average 24-11 on a lower shooting percentage, but wouldn’t be as valuable to the clippers as he is now because he is so efficient. Wall has the potential to score way more than 18 a game, but I can’t see him being on a good team if he has to carry that much of a scoring load.

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  • #761395
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    lalaila
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    i feel bad that at the start of this season I started to agree with the media that Kyrie is the point guard of the future..

    i mean Kyrie is great, but even last year I thought Wall was underrated and we talked to much only about Kyrie, this year is the different story, 23ppg good shooting guard at 20yo is something elite, but tell me why Kyrie is great PG (not overall player but pure pg alone) for the second straight year he fails to avg 6assists per game..with all the criticism Westbrook gets even he avg over 7per game twice already in his short career..

    Wall’s team might be even worse to assist but he has no problem with that, he avg 9 in past month or so, his team plays like a playoff team only because of HIM he even scores just as well as Kyrie, and one thing I know for sure he will be so much better defender with all that athleticism that gives rebounds and blocks rarely seen for a point guard..

    if anyone who is not top3 now and will be the best point in3-4years I say it will be Mr.John Wall

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    • #761424
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      Snowta
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      If you put Kyrie on a team with KD I’m sure he could avg over 7 assists too, but I do agree that Wall is the better all around pg

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  • #761414
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    FastAndFurious
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    This is the Wall where going to see in the future, Wall is determined to shut the critics up, as long as he keeps working on that jumper, Wall’s going to be a problem in the future, there’s no way you can stop him now.

    He was a #1 pick for a reason!

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  • #761421
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    apb540
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    This is what I expected of John Wall. It was just a matter of hard work, time, and health before he hit that 20 ppg mark. We all knew he can dish the ball and play D.

    Off topic a bit but wow are the East’s point guards good: Irving, Wall, Holiday, D-Will, Rondo, Rose, Jennings, Teague, and a two decent young pg/combo guards in Kemba and Brandon Knight….imagine if Burke or Smart end up in the east on Orlando, Detroit, or Toronto (if OKC doesn’t have their pick).

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  • #761436
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    PHILA9
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    He wants to get that Max, once he gets it I want to see what he can do afterwords.

    He got a lot of flack for saying he is worth the max because he never sniffed the playoffs, granted its more on the wizards organization then him.

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  • #761437
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    He wants to get that Max, once he gets it I want to see what he can do afterwords.

    He got a lot of flack for saying he is worth the max because he never sniffed the playoffs, granted its more on the wizards organization then him.

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  • #761468
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    halfdecayed
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    Who should the Wizards draft this year? Im not sold on zeller, as he failed to dominate the bigs in the tournament, getting his shot blocked so many times.. I think they should go for Otto Porter or maybe Muhammad.. There’s not alot of Depth at the SF position, but I think that’s what they need to upgrade the most..

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  • #761472
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    Hale
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    This is the probably the strongest overall crop of PG’s the NBA has ever seen.

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  • #761506
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    fcb206
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    My beef with Wall is that he doesn’t make his teammates any better. I’m not inclined to salivate over a lead guard who can’t make his team greater than the sum of its parts. Throw in that despite being a ball hawk, he’s completely oblivious of how to play NBA team defense, and I can’t get too excited for the outcome of the John Wall era, at least until he demonstrates some development in the intellectual elements of his game. We all knew he could burn up the court and score points. I’d like to see him pilot at least a league average offensive unit before shelling out a max deal for him.

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    • #761512
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      thricethefun
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      I don’t know who you have been watching but it isn’t John Wall lol.

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  • #761518
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    Vutchko
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    I watch Jan Wesely in game… And he is PF, not SF… And he can be great PF…
    He have size, he can jump, he can shot, he can dunk, and he can play defence on PF. But as a his fan for some time i see him like little afraid of NBA. If coach can make him belive that he is a future star, he can play on much higher level.(And he need some pounds, i mean 🙂 )

    Jan have great potencial…

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