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  • Posted on: Fri, 07/05/2013 - 5:16pm #50926
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    Honestly, I think it’s better for the Lakers to move on from Dwight Howard. If Dwight returned, the Lakers would’ve been stuck in purgatory this season, missing out on the chance to get a top 3 pick in a loaded draft. They wouldn’t have as much cap space for next year’s FA class with guys like LeBron, Carmelo, Paul George, and many more possibly available.

    Also, it could’ve been worse, they could have been stuck with Bynum and his bad knees and effort.

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  • Posted on: Fri, 07/05/2013 - 5:26pm #814463
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    Watch out for a huge year from Pau next season. He is going to be the focal point on offence for once! Without Kobe, Nash will be able to play his natural game too. I don’t think they will be that bad. Depends on FA signings, but I can see them still competing for a playoff spot.

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    • Posted on: Fri, 07/05/2013 - 5:35pm #814475
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      Not sure, yea Nash and Pau might play better on offense, but they’re both still terrible on defense. Also, they both struggle with injuries. Plus, what’s their line-up going to be, they don’t have much money to do much now.

      PG: Nash
      SG: Meeks
      SF: MWP
      PF: Hill
      C: Gasol

      Only 1 maaaaaybe 2 should be starters in the league. That team looks terrible. They’re going to suck this year, but they’ll rebound.

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    • Posted on: Fri, 07/05/2013 - 5:35pm #814540
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      Not sure, yea Nash and Pau might play better on offense, but they’re both still terrible on defense. Also, they both struggle with injuries. Plus, what’s their line-up going to be, they don’t have much money to do much now.

      PG: Nash
      SG: Meeks
      SF: MWP
      PF: Hill
      C: Gasol

      Only 1 maaaaaybe 2 should be starters in the league. That team looks terrible. They’re going to suck this year, but they’ll rebound.

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  • Posted on: Fri, 07/05/2013 - 5:26pm #814528
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    Watch out for a huge year from Pau next season. He is going to be the focal point on offence for once! Without Kobe, Nash will be able to play his natural game too. I don’t think they will be that bad. Depends on FA signings, but I can see them still competing for a playoff spot.

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  • Posted on: Fri, 07/05/2013 - 5:54pm #814481
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    Kobe will be back and won’t allow them to be that bad. Even if he only plays half the season and they only go .500 in the games he plays they will still win at least 30 games (they could go 9-32 w/out him and 21-21 with him) at worst. Last year 30 wins would put you 9th in the lottery order and I would imagine it would be around the same area this year.

    You Laker fans can try to convince yourselves that everything is okay and you will be better without Dwight but that isn’t the case. Plus I would say the chances of landing Melo, LeBron or Paul George is less than 10 % next off season. It could very well be a long few years in Tinseltown (I know nobody calls it that).

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    • Posted on: Fri, 07/05/2013 - 5:57pm #814497
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      I’m not a Lakers fan lol, I’m just saying they’ll turn it around. You might be right, they may not suck enough to get a top pick, but regardless if they have a lotto pick they’ll get a good player along with cap space.They’ll have to endure another mediocre season, but they’ll be loaded next off-season to spend.

      Agreed they likely don’t get LeBron (unless he really wants to go there, which he could who knows?) But you’re going to say the Lakers, who are by far the most prestigeous franchise in the NBA, with the bright lights of LA, will strike out getting someone? Here’s the names that will be possibly be available next off-season, LeBron, Melo, Paul George, Wade, Bosh, Duncan,Tony Parker, John Wall, Greg Monroe, Cousins, Kawi Leonard, Stoudemire, Tobias Harris, Favors Deng, Parsons, Hayward,Granger, Bledsoe.

      The Lakers have shown they can turn things around and become contenders quick (example: traded for Pau Gasol, and went to 3 straight finals, with 2 NBA titles). There’s a reason why this franchise has consitanly been good year after year.

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      • Posted on: Fri, 07/05/2013 - 6:43pm #814611
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        First of all I am sorry for assuming you were a Lakers fan. It just seemed like you were since this was the 5th or 6th Lakers post of the day.

        Why are the Lakers by far the most prestigious franchise? Not all players like the bright lights of LA as Dwight just showed us and Boston has more titles. Putting Duncan and Parker on your list is just absurd as are a lot of the other names who will be restricted free agents. Maybe they will bring in an Amare type player and overpay somebody to keep Kobe happy but I don’t see them getting any kind of superstar. I know they will have a ton of cap room with only Nash under contract but they obviously will extend Kobe and if they want to keep Pau as well that won’t be cheap. The only thing the Lakers have going for them at this point is the city of LA and the history of the Lakers…but the Clippers are also in LA and have a much better roster. I would rather be a Clippers fan than a Lakers fan today and most likely for the next 5 years at least.

        I know you aren’t a fan of them now but I just don’t know why everybody has so much confidence they will be able to turn it around other than “They are the Lakers”.

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      • Posted on: Fri, 07/05/2013 - 6:43pm #814543
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        First of all I am sorry for assuming you were a Lakers fan. It just seemed like you were since this was the 5th or 6th Lakers post of the day.

        Why are the Lakers by far the most prestigious franchise? Not all players like the bright lights of LA as Dwight just showed us and Boston has more titles. Putting Duncan and Parker on your list is just absurd as are a lot of the other names who will be restricted free agents. Maybe they will bring in an Amare type player and overpay somebody to keep Kobe happy but I don’t see them getting any kind of superstar. I know they will have a ton of cap room with only Nash under contract but they obviously will extend Kobe and if they want to keep Pau as well that won’t be cheap. The only thing the Lakers have going for them at this point is the city of LA and the history of the Lakers…but the Clippers are also in LA and have a much better roster. I would rather be a Clippers fan than a Lakers fan today and most likely for the next 5 years at least.

        I know you aren’t a fan of them now but I just don’t know why everybody has so much confidence they will be able to turn it around other than “They are the Lakers”.

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        • Posted on: Fri, 07/05/2013 - 6:43pm #814629
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          I understand the confusion, just wanted to clear the air because I’m not some biased fan.

          I would say they are the most prestigious, especially if you are talking modern era (last 15 years) I just put Duncan and Parker on there just to point out how deep the FA class is (I know those two aren’t leaving). Honestly, I think they do land 1 or 2 of those RFA like George, Wall, Cousins, Monroe. I also do think they have a puncher’s chance with LeBron or Carmelo, so who just maybe. Plus they’ll get a good draft pick regardless if it’s top 3. Kobe will return for a discount and Pau won’t be very expensive after being on the decline.

          I have confidence because the Lakers have proven to be successful. And what I’m ultimatly saying is next off-season, the Lakers will have options, with a load of cap space, which is always a good thing. I’m saying they’ll be title contenders again right away, in time they will. However, they’re not going to be dwelling at the bottom of the NBA

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        • Posted on: Fri, 07/05/2013 - 6:43pm #814560
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          I understand the confusion, just wanted to clear the air because I’m not some biased fan.

          I would say they are the most prestigious, especially if you are talking modern era (last 15 years) I just put Duncan and Parker on there just to point out how deep the FA class is (I know those two aren’t leaving). Honestly, I think they do land 1 or 2 of those RFA like George, Wall, Cousins, Monroe. I also do think they have a puncher’s chance with LeBron or Carmelo, so who just maybe. Plus they’ll get a good draft pick regardless if it’s top 3. Kobe will return for a discount and Pau won’t be very expensive after being on the decline.

          I have confidence because the Lakers have proven to be successful. And what I’m ultimatly saying is next off-season, the Lakers will have options, with a load of cap space, which is always a good thing. I’m saying they’ll be title contenders again right away, in time they will. However, they’re not going to be dwelling at the bottom of the NBA

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    • Posted on: Fri, 07/05/2013 - 5:57pm #814563
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      I’m not a Lakers fan lol, I’m just saying they’ll turn it around. You might be right, they may not suck enough to get a top pick, but regardless if they have a lotto pick they’ll get a good player along with cap space.They’ll have to endure another mediocre season, but they’ll be loaded next off-season to spend.

      Agreed they likely don’t get LeBron (unless he really wants to go there, which he could who knows?) But you’re going to say the Lakers, who are by far the most prestigeous franchise in the NBA, with the bright lights of LA, will strike out getting someone? Here’s the names that will be possibly be available next off-season, LeBron, Melo, Paul George, Wade, Bosh, Duncan,Tony Parker, John Wall, Greg Monroe, Cousins, Kawi Leonard, Stoudemire, Tobias Harris, Favors Deng, Parsons, Hayward,Granger, Bledsoe.

      The Lakers have shown they can turn things around and become contenders quick (example: traded for Pau Gasol, and went to 3 straight finals, with 2 NBA titles). There’s a reason why this franchise has consitanly been good year after year.

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  • Posted on: Fri, 07/05/2013 - 5:54pm #814546
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    Kobe will be back and won’t allow them to be that bad. Even if he only plays half the season and they only go .500 in the games he plays they will still win at least 30 games (they could go 9-32 w/out him and 21-21 with him) at worst. Last year 30 wins would put you 9th in the lottery order and I would imagine it would be around the same area this year.

    You Laker fans can try to convince yourselves that everything is okay and you will be better without Dwight but that isn’t the case. Plus I would say the chances of landing Melo, LeBron or Paul George is less than 10 % next off season. It could very well be a long few years in Tinseltown (I know nobody calls it that).

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  • Posted on: Fri, 07/05/2013 - 6:10pm #814503
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    I think we Laker fans should have 0% faith in landing Lebron. There’s just no reason to believe he would come to LA besides Laker “history” and the fact that the Lakers just so happen to have big bucks ready for the summer hes a FA. He might retire a Heat but watchout for San Antonio – they will have money, legacy, a few talented dudes on the roster and possibly be in a transition stage that they can sell Lebron on especially if Miami shows any signs of breaking up.

    As Laker fans, we should have zero desire for Melo just because he’s Melo.

    Next summer we can realistically push for Paul George and/or Ricky Rubio. I would not be surprised to see George retire a Pacer but if he ever does leave, he was raised in LA County plus the Lakers have big money to spend in the same summer that he tests the waters so it may go down. If they can pull some trickery and resign Kobe and Pau for dollar amounts that leave at least 1 big contract available, George would be a great addition to that veteran heavy crew.

    Ricky Rubio seems LA or NY bound. First, Minnesota isn’t very good and second, when they first drafted him his entire “team” was disappointed that he didn’t go to a big market. They pushed for it but nothing happened and word is that is what delayed his NBA debut. Nash would probably retire before Pau and Kobe so if no Paul George then Rubio would be great plus Rubio very well may not require a max contract – the idea of Rubio signing in LA for 4 years, $52-$60 million isn’t crazy by any means espesically if he can be buddied with our current vets (Kobe/Pau) or maybe a young stud like George.

    We Laker fans are spoiled and yes this coming up season very well can be an ugly one but all will be well. Let us be patient and see what goes down.

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    • Posted on: Fri, 07/05/2013 - 6:14pm #814511
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      Rubio won’t be available, he’s eligible to be tendered, but won’t become a RFA since his contract started last season and lasts through 2015 if Minnesota picks his option up (which they will)

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    • Posted on: Fri, 07/05/2013 - 6:14pm #814579
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      Rubio won’t be available, he’s eligible to be tendered, but won’t become a RFA since his contract started last season and lasts through 2015 if Minnesota picks his option up (which they will)

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    • Posted on: Fri, 07/05/2013 - 10:28pm #814686
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      I don’t see the Pacers NOT matching a max-deal for Paul George. If they matched one for Roy Hibbert, why wouldn’t they match their best guy and franchise player for the next 10-12 years?

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    • Posted on: Fri, 07/05/2013 - 10:28pm #814757
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      I don’t see the Pacers NOT matching a max-deal for Paul George. If they matched one for Roy Hibbert, why wouldn’t they match their best guy and franchise player for the next 10-12 years?

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  • Posted on: Fri, 07/05/2013 - 6:10pm #814570
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    I think we Laker fans should have 0% faith in landing Lebron. There’s just no reason to believe he would come to LA besides Laker “history” and the fact that the Lakers just so happen to have big bucks ready for the summer hes a FA. He might retire a Heat but watchout for San Antonio – they will have money, legacy, a few talented dudes on the roster and possibly be in a transition stage that they can sell Lebron on especially if Miami shows any signs of breaking up.

    As Laker fans, we should have zero desire for Melo just because he’s Melo.

    Next summer we can realistically push for Paul George and/or Ricky Rubio. I would not be surprised to see George retire a Pacer but if he ever does leave, he was raised in LA County plus the Lakers have big money to spend in the same summer that he tests the waters so it may go down. If they can pull some trickery and resign Kobe and Pau for dollar amounts that leave at least 1 big contract available, George would be a great addition to that veteran heavy crew.

    Ricky Rubio seems LA or NY bound. First, Minnesota isn’t very good and second, when they first drafted him his entire “team” was disappointed that he didn’t go to a big market. They pushed for it but nothing happened and word is that is what delayed his NBA debut. Nash would probably retire before Pau and Kobe so if no Paul George then Rubio would be great plus Rubio very well may not require a max contract – the idea of Rubio signing in LA for 4 years, $52-$60 million isn’t crazy by any means espesically if he can be buddied with our current vets (Kobe/Pau) or maybe a young stud like George.

    We Laker fans are spoiled and yes this coming up season very well can be an ugly one but all will be well. Let us be patient and see what goes down.

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  • Posted on: Fri, 07/05/2013 - 6:17pm #814521
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    Historically, as long as the LA Lakers have a top 15 player of all time (or more) then they are fine.
    Is Jerry West, Elgin Baylor, Wilt, Kareem, Magic, Shaq, or a prime Kobe walking through that door?

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    • Posted on: Fri, 07/05/2013 - 6:26pm #814601
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      And historically, the Lakers find a way to land a top 15 player eventually, which I think they will.

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    • Posted on: Fri, 07/05/2013 - 6:26pm #814533
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      And historically, the Lakers find a way to land a top 15 player eventually, which I think they will.

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      • Posted on: Fri, 07/05/2013 - 6:50pm #814623
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        Keyword of all time….once Kobe retires I don’t think they will reload as quick as people are used to. The way the rules are set up now you are able to make the most money by staying with your current team. Most good players will stay with who drafted them for at least their first contract extension…maybe 5 or 6 years down the road they will bring in another great player but I don’t see it happening with Kobe still in town…this was his last chance.

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      • Posted on: Fri, 07/05/2013 - 6:50pm #814555
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        Keyword of all time….once Kobe retires I don’t think they will reload as quick as people are used to. The way the rules are set up now you are able to make the most money by staying with your current team. Most good players will stay with who drafted them for at least their first contract extension…maybe 5 or 6 years down the road they will bring in another great player but I don’t see it happening with Kobe still in town…this was his last chance.

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    • Posted on: Fri, 07/05/2013 - 6:35pm #814593
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      THIS^

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    • Posted on: Fri, 07/05/2013 - 6:35pm #814525
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      THIS^

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  • Posted on: Fri, 07/05/2013 - 6:17pm #814589
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    Historically, as long as the LA Lakers have a top 15 player of all time (or more) then they are fine.
    Is Jerry West, Elgin Baylor, Wilt, Kareem, Magic, Shaq, or a prime Kobe walking through that door?

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  • Posted on: Fri, 07/05/2013 - 7:57pm #814606
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    Take 2 beers and call again in the morning.

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  • Posted on: Fri, 07/05/2013 - 7:57pm #814677
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    Take 2 beers and call again in the morning.

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  • Posted on: Fri, 07/05/2013 - 11:59pm #814713
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    I dont see Lakers get any big name even next season. Why would Lebron leave a championship team?? Melo looks happy in New York. They maybe should try with small caliber players until they got chance to reload with big names

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  • Posted on: Fri, 07/05/2013 - 11:59pm #814785
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    I dont see Lakers get any big name even next season. Why would Lebron leave a championship team?? Melo looks happy in New York. They maybe should try with small caliber players until they got chance to reload with big names

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