[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

If you’ve been wondering why Kobe has looked a little slow and worn down this season, it’s because he’s playing bone on bone in his right knee. This is the same knee he’s had arthroscopic surgery on three times thus far in his career to clean up loose/fraying articular cartilage (just had surgery this past summer). This is the same knee he had drained plenty of times last season, specifically during the OKC playoff series.

According to reports Kobe hasn’t practice all season because he’s experiencing pain and swelling in the knee. He has very little articular cartilage (what covers the end of the bone) remaining under his patella (knee cap), which means he’s experiencing bone on bone pain between his femur (thigh bone) and patella (knee cap). This is a condition that usually leads to microfracture surgery, which stimulates the growth of new articular cartilage. Kobe hasn’t had a MRI yet.

The Lakers will only go as far as Kobe will take them. He’s experiencing this kind of pain/swelling and this isn’t even the mid-point of the season. Will he be healthy enough come playoff time? And we all know Kobe isn’t going to tolerate sitting out games or toning down his game to rest the knee.

I think it’s time for the Lakers to start going inside out more and make going in to Gasol and Bynum more of an emphasis. It’d be smart for this season and what’s left of Kobe’s career if he played less minutes or took off a game here and there.

 

 

[Moon RiverParticipant]

This is very troubling to me.  I have not been a believer in the Lake Show remotely interested or serious about pursuing Melo or CP3.  However, with this news, I think Mitch needs to take a good long look at those trade possibilities for the long term for this Laker team.  Can he pull off another Memphis/Gasol type deal?  Not if Coach Pop has anything to say about it.

[Moon RiverParticipant]

This is very troubling to me.  I have not been a believer in the Lake Show remotely interested or serious about pursuing Melo or CP3.  However, with this news, I think Mitch needs to take a good long look at those trade possibilities for the long term for this Laker team.  Can he pull off another Memphis/Gasol type deal?  Not if Coach Pop has anything to say about it.

[Im Your FatherParticipant]

@Indianabasketball

Do you have some kind of medical training? I was just wondering, because you always seem to know what you’re talking about when it comes to injuries. Anyway, it’s helpful and informative, so keep it up.

@Cusguy

 just don’t see what kind of move LA would make to aquire a CP3 or or a Melo. What has made the Lakers great is that they have an excellent supporting cast around Kobe and I’m not sure it if it is worth it to shred that to pieces in order to get another superstar. 

[Im Your FatherParticipant]

@Indianabasketball

Do you have some kind of medical training? I was just wondering, because you always seem to know what you’re talking about when it comes to injuries. Anyway, it’s helpful and informative, so keep it up.

@Cusguy

 just don’t see what kind of move LA would make to aquire a CP3 or or a Melo. What has made the Lakers great is that they have an excellent supporting cast around Kobe and I’m not sure it if it is worth it to shred that to pieces in order to get another superstar. 

[arman]

 im sorry to see hes career ending up like this…FACE IT,he is DONE !

[arman]

 im sorry to see hes career ending up like this…FACE IT,he is DONE !

[RickyRubio9Participant]

 Bone on Bone?
Isn’t that what is derailing B-Roy’s career right now?
& I highly highly doubt Kobe hasn’t practice ALL season.
 

[RickyRubio9Participant]

 Bone on Bone?
Isn’t that what is derailing B-Roy’s career right now?
& I highly highly doubt Kobe hasn’t practice ALL season.
 

[the lake show]

lol..If he is done then there are alot of players who are done because they still can’t play at the level he is playing. Watching the laker games its clear that he is slowed a tad sometimes and others it doesn’t seem to bother him. Either way its not the reason the Lakers are losing, Like they said on NBATV the other night, they always play disinterested from time to time in the regular season. Still no worries from LakerNation

[the lake show]

lol..If he is done then there are alot of players who are done because they still can’t play at the level he is playing. Watching the laker games its clear that he is slowed a tad sometimes and others it doesn’t seem to bother him. Either way its not the reason the Lakers are losing, Like they said on NBATV the other night, they always play disinterested from time to time in the regular season. Still no worries from LakerNation

[arman]

 i lol’d at your momma

[arman]

 i lol’d at your momma

[esperanzafleet69Participant]

what source does this come from???

i know for a FACT that he does go to practices too…

[esperanzafleet69Participant]

what source does this come from???

i know for a FACT that he does go to practices too…

[the lake show]

espn insider

 

Kobe Bryant did a phone interview with Peter Vecsey of the New York Post and admitted that until recently he was not practicing.

"Because I have very little cartilage under my right knee cap, it’s almost bone on bone," said Bryant.

Bryant has had three operations on the knee and last season during the playoffs there were times when it had to be drained.

"Until I got it drained the first time during the opening round against the Thunder I could not bend that knee at all," said Bryant. "It was swollen as hell and it hurt like hell. Luckily things got a lot better once I had the procedure."

Bryant and head coach Phil Jackson agreed that practices would be limited for the All-Star, but that changed after the humiliating loss to Miami on Christmas. Bryant says he needed to practice to push his teammates.

"I feel it’s up to me to take the team to where we want to go and still believe we will go. No question about that! I’m not about to make claims I’ll have to back off on later on. I’m a clear thinker. I truly believe we have the pieces and personalities to three-peat," said Bryant.

— Nick Borges

[the lake show]

espn insider

 

Kobe Bryant did a phone interview with Peter Vecsey of the New York Post and admitted that until recently he was not practicing.

"Because I have very little cartilage under my right knee cap, it’s almost bone on bone," said Bryant.

Bryant has had three operations on the knee and last season during the playoffs there were times when it had to be drained.

"Until I got it drained the first time during the opening round against the Thunder I could not bend that knee at all," said Bryant. "It was swollen as hell and it hurt like hell. Luckily things got a lot better once I had the procedure."

Bryant and head coach Phil Jackson agreed that practices would be limited for the All-Star, but that changed after the humiliating loss to Miami on Christmas. Bryant says he needed to practice to push his teammates.

"I feel it’s up to me to take the team to where we want to go and still believe we will go. No question about that! I’m not about to make claims I’ll have to back off on later on. I’m a clear thinker. I truly believe we have the pieces and personalities to three-peat," said Bryant.

— Nick Borges

[andxxxParticipant]

 Damn that sucks I hate the Lakers with a passion, but if this is true and its almost bone on bone he doesn’t have many years left it actually sounds like Brandon Roy’s injury thats been bothering him this season.  I hope Kobe can continue to perform at his standards, but with an injury like this how many years are left?

[andxxxParticipant]

 Damn that sucks I hate the Lakers with a passion, but if this is true and its almost bone on bone he doesn’t have many years left it actually sounds like Brandon Roy’s injury thats been bothering him this season.  I hope Kobe can continue to perform at his standards, but with an injury like this how many years are left?

[llperez]

i hope its not as bad it it sounds. He hasnt missed any games for it yet and he is talking about playing in the 2012 olympics so maybe he knows his body a little better and has a high pain threshold and will battle through this.

[llperez]

i hope its not as bad it it sounds. He hasnt missed any games for it yet and he is talking about playing in the 2012 olympics so maybe he knows his body a little better and has a high pain threshold and will battle through this.

[iguapops420Participant]

 It’s true, Kobe said it himself. He goes to practice but doesn’t perform. The reporter asked him why he hasn’t been practicing this year and he said that it was because he has almost no cartilage in his right knee. Just read it over at LG. So very depressing, people will realize what they had five years from now and realize they took him for granted. But, I’m still a firm believer that Kobe can still give me a good playoff performance. But it is obvious that Kobe needs not be a primary ballhandler anymore. Just put him in the post and ask him to stick to that area like MJ did. Problem there is that there is no other dynamic playmaker who can create for themselves and others like Kobe has consistently done over the years. I’ve gone back and forth this year trying to think of a way that LA can find that second player and it all revolves around LO.

I’ve been saying how his trade value will never again be this high, on a very efficient contract for a consistent 15-10 starter with his versatility. As much as I love what he brings for LA, I have to think about the fact that our bigs are useless if we cant get the ball to them. Guard play dictates the game through 3 quarters. I’m always led back to 4 names: Andre Iguodala, Jamaal Crawford, Stephen Jackson, and OJ Mayo. I honestly don’t think it would be as difficult this year as other due to teams trying to thin their salaries pre-lockout. These are a few trades that I could see being realistic options. 

OJ,Thabeet for L.O.

Odom to Houston, Martin to Charlotte, and Captain Jack, Kwame to LAL

Odom, Walton, Shannon for Crawford, Williams.

Odom to Milwaukee, Blake to Milwaukee, 3Banks to Philly, 2013,20151st ////Redd(xpiringK) to Phila, Gooden to LAL, Sanders to Phila, CD-R to Phila////Iggy to LaL, Nocioni to Milwaukee                                                    —————————————————————————————————————-   Memphis does this2get some much needed Bench play,and a possible cheap ZBo replacement if he were2bolt.

Houston does this becuase Scola is best used as an uptempo 5 who can get out on the break and beat his man down court. LO is a cheap versatile starter who would compliment Scola’s rugged inside game. Could make a real push for playoffs. Everyone knows they’re a tough playoff team who can sneak up on someone.

Atlanta does this since they Jamaal in the offseason for nothing, and Williams has gone to the bench more recently and this way they get out of a few years of his deal, and get a player who brings what they like out of Williams, only with championship pedigree, and they get Shannon who is able to come in and light it up so they would lose a lot of soring from the backup 2 guard. LAL would probably have to throw a pick or so in.

Milwaukee gets a 15-10 starter on a cheap contract and could mesh very well with Bogut who plays a very similar game to Pau Gasol, and a tough minded shooter who can start in Nocioni, A solid backup pg who can either play behind BJ, with, or step in as starter for if he were to go down, and open up minutes for the unhappy Maggette.                                                                                                                                                             Philly gets completely out of Iggy and Noci’s contracts by trading for the expiring contract of Michael Redd, and get back 2 first round picks, Athletic Versatile shotblocking prospect Larry Sanders, Defensive minded sf with good potential in Devin Ebanks, and an already talented complimentary scorer in CD-R who could play the two very well while turner starts the 3 for his rebounding and his ballhandling would become more efficient as a 3 , then can slide down to the 2 for CD-R when Thad comes in. 

I know I’m smoking the pipe, but I couldn’t sleep and was up until 7:30 this morning. LA has to find a trade partner for another dynamic perimeter threat. At this point I’d even take Devin Harris and  Ben Gordon types.

 

 

 

 

[iguapops420Participant]

 It’s true, Kobe said it himself. He goes to practice but doesn’t perform. The reporter asked him why he hasn’t been practicing this year and he said that it was because he has almost no cartilage in his right knee. Just read it over at LG. So very depressing, people will realize what they had five years from now and realize they took him for granted. But, I’m still a firm believer that Kobe can still give me a good playoff performance. But it is obvious that Kobe needs not be a primary ballhandler anymore. Just put him in the post and ask him to stick to that area like MJ did. Problem there is that there is no other dynamic playmaker who can create for themselves and others like Kobe has consistently done over the years. I’ve gone back and forth this year trying to think of a way that LA can find that second player and it all revolves around LO.

I’ve been saying how his trade value will never again be this high, on a very efficient contract for a consistent 15-10 starter with his versatility. As much as I love what he brings for LA, I have to think about the fact that our bigs are useless if we cant get the ball to them. Guard play dictates the game through 3 quarters. I’m always led back to 4 names: Andre Iguodala, Jamaal Crawford, Stephen Jackson, and OJ Mayo. I honestly don’t think it would be as difficult this year as other due to teams trying to thin their salaries pre-lockout. These are a few trades that I could see being realistic options. 

OJ,Thabeet for L.O.

Odom to Houston, Martin to Charlotte, and Captain Jack, Kwame to LAL

Odom, Walton, Shannon for Crawford, Williams.

Odom to Milwaukee, Blake to Milwaukee, 3Banks to Philly, 2013,20151st ////Redd(xpiringK) to Phila, Gooden to LAL, Sanders to Phila, CD-R to Phila////Iggy to LaL, Nocioni to Milwaukee                                                    —————————————————————————————————————-   Memphis does this2get some much needed Bench play,and a possible cheap ZBo replacement if he were2bolt.

Houston does this becuase Scola is best used as an uptempo 5 who can get out on the break and beat his man down court. LO is a cheap versatile starter who would compliment Scola’s rugged inside game. Could make a real push for playoffs. Everyone knows they’re a tough playoff team who can sneak up on someone.

Atlanta does this since they Jamaal in the offseason for nothing, and Williams has gone to the bench more recently and this way they get out of a few years of his deal, and get a player who brings what they like out of Williams, only with championship pedigree, and they get Shannon who is able to come in and light it up so they would lose a lot of soring from the backup 2 guard. LAL would probably have to throw a pick or so in.

Milwaukee gets a 15-10 starter on a cheap contract and could mesh very well with Bogut who plays a very similar game to Pau Gasol, and a tough minded shooter who can start in Nocioni, A solid backup pg who can either play behind BJ, with, or step in as starter for if he were to go down, and open up minutes for the unhappy Maggette.                                                                                                                                                             Philly gets completely out of Iggy and Noci’s contracts by trading for the expiring contract of Michael Redd, and get back 2 first round picks, Athletic Versatile shotblocking prospect Larry Sanders, Defensive minded sf with good potential in Devin Ebanks, and an already talented complimentary scorer in CD-R who could play the two very well while turner starts the 3 for his rebounding and his ballhandling would become more efficient as a 3 , then can slide down to the 2 for CD-R when Thad comes in. 

I know I’m smoking the pipe, but I couldn’t sleep and was up until 7:30 this morning. LA has to find a trade partner for another dynamic perimeter threat. At this point I’d even take Devin Harris and  Ben Gordon types.

 

 

 

 

[KevinDurantRocksParticipant]

It’s very sad that any time anyone has to leave something they love do to an injury

[KevinDurantRocksParticipant]

It’s very sad that any time anyone has to leave something they love do to an injury

[llperez]

im watching the game tonight, and i dont see anything looking wrong or uncomfortale for him. He has 25 on 10-18 and has been moving fine on it.

[llperez]

im watching the game tonight, and i dont see anything looking wrong or uncomfortale for him. He has 25 on 10-18 and has been moving fine on it.

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

Let’s not compare Kobe’s injuries to Roy’s lol. Roy’s injuries are an ENTIRELY different thing. Roy’s injuries are depressing.

Roy has zero meniscus in either knee (and has probably done damage to the articular cartilage in between his femur and tibia) and is experiencing bone on bone contact between the femur and tibia. His situation is career ending to be honest and I predicted during the thread I created about his injuries that I didn’t think his career would last another three seasons. That doesn’t look like a bad prediction now considering he’s probably about to miss the rest of the season. Can anybody imagine trying to run, jump and cut with your thigh bone and leg bone grinding together??? That’s what kind of pain Roy is experiencing.

Kobe’s pain or situation isn’t anything close to what Roy’s experiencing. Kobe’s pain and bone on bone contact is only behind the knee cap. I’m sure there’s a lot of irritation, swelling and pain behind his knee cap.

At Kobe’s age and with the amount of games he’s played, it’d probably be best to start decreasing his load. That way he’s fresh for the playoffs, which is what matters. I really think the Lakers should start playing through Gasol and Bynum more.

[JJeff6Participant]

That was a good post Indiana.

With Roy, is there any type of surgery he could get to possibly prolong his career? maybe so that he could at least play until hes 31 or 32?

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

Roy said he may consider surgery… I’d like to see what surgery he’s refering to because once your meniscus is gone, it’s gone. There’s no replacing it.

And if he’s talking about microfracture surgery (stimulates the new growth of articular cartilage, but it’s not as good as the original), I don’t see what good that’d do him. He has no meniscus, so the "new" articular cartilage, which is what covers the end of bones and helps them rub smoothly together, would only be grinded all over again.

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