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  • #745287
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    samosas
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    dwight howard and deron williams are two all-stars that i would never have on my team, and neither one of those players is going to win a title.

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  • #46317
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    I honestly think Kobe maybe hurting his own chances by questioning Dwight’s Injury status….

    http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8926084/dwight-howard-los-angeles-lakers-tired-people-questioning-shoulder-injury

    Alot of people don’t like Dwight including Kobe..lol, me I really don’t mind him or have an opinion but I do see that he’s been the most dominant big in the game since Shaq’s career winded down…

    Its clear to me that Dwight can’t stand playing with Kobe and I think there’s no way that he comes back to LA. Regardless of Kobe’s play and will to win, he’s never seemed like an ideal teammate and it will ultimately hurt his chances of matching MJ’s 6 I believe…Dwight appeared to be Kobe’s last hope to get to 6 titles or even 7 but it appears he’s gone after 1 disappointing year…

    Beginning to look very similar to the Kobe and Shaq split…

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  • #745288
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    Chilbert arenas
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    Days of our lives…..

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  • #745290
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    Malik-Universal
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    I don’t exactly agree with kobe… but lets face the facts… Dwight howard is the biggest b*tch in the nba hands down… this guy is 27 years old… 6’11”, nearly 300 pounds… and acts like a 17 yr old….. its pathetic…… make your FT’s and stop crying

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  • #745291
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    SeattleSuperChronics
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    People forget Dwight led Orlando to the finals beating lebron 4-1. Dwight will get a title whether that be with the lakers or with someone else. Anytime a new team is put together there are growing pains and yes these have been particularly bad growing pains but he will leave to a contender or figure it out with Kobe.

    At 34 Kobe a has 3-4 maybe 5 good years left with medical advances. What that means to me is even if Dwight leaves the lakers will reload. I don’t see the LA trying to rebuild anytime soon with Kobe on the roster. They will throw money/trade for every allstar player available till they either get it right or Kobe retires.

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    • #745323
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      For_Never_Ever
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      How can you be so sure Dwight will win a title if he is not with the Lakers ?

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    • #745358
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      BenchWarmer
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      “Beating Lebron 4-1” haha so true

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  • #745292
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    I should of made it clearer, but in no way am I thinking its all Kobe’s fault for their clash…Just don’t think he’s making the situation any better…

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  • #745304
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    BigChamp12
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    This story is getting more interesting by the day… Honestly, I understand where Kobe was coming from and I dont think he meant anything negative about it. He told the truth. It’s championship or bust. They really dont have time for for Dwight to heal, now that Pau is out. Pau being active and playing good was allowing Dwight to actually rest and rehab without having to worry about the team not having a big. That just changed drastically.
    I also understand Dwight’s response and I actually like what he said. He spoke facts too. He’s not Kobe. Kobe’s in the last few years of his career. Dwight is entering his prime and he wants to be completely healthy. He’s not going to do anything to jeopardize his future, I wouldnt either. “If i go down, who’s going to take care of me? This is my life and my future.” I think anybody at that age, in this situation would feel the same way. He’s playing already. Let him at least protect his shoulder.
    I think both guys are right in what they said and are both looking out for their future. Kobe’s thinking like he needs a championship point blank period. Dwight’s thinking if he can play, he will, but if he cant, he’s in no rush.

    The media’s playing instigator in this whole situation. The way they present the stories is crazy, but I dont blame them.

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  • #745313
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    Lebron’s Hairline
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    Still a better love story than twilight.

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    • #745327
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      Tyrober
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      You sir just got yourself a +1

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  • #745322
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    IndianaBasketball
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    You have to watch out with the media. They can be snakes. The only problem I have with the Kobe and Dwight is that they both keep talking to the media, who like to spin things and make it sound worse.

    “Kobe challenges Dwight.” “Dwight *dismisses* Kobe.” “Kobe calls out Dwight.”

    I don’t think Kobe is questioning Dwight. I mean, at one point, Dwight never missed games so obviously he can play with pain. I just think that Kobe is trying to establish urgency and that they don’t have time to wait. Dwight needs surgery on the shoulder regardless. He can’t make the injury any worse. What it’s about now is being able to play through the pain.

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  • #745326
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    halfdecayed
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    If the lakers don’t make the playoffs, I think it’s pretty clear dwight will leave LA, but where is he going to go? Brooklyn? Houston? Atlanta? what do u guys think??

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    • #745331
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      mavsatx
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      Mavs Mavs Mavs

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  • #745339
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    Kayjay
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    Won’t allow him to play 4-5 more years even with medical advances. Why? So he can get torched and have the media calling him old every time he gets crossed up by some youngster. Kobe already stated he is thinking seriously about retirement in another 1 to 2 years. It should be taken very seriously too. Thats why he’s pushing Dwight, the window is closing fast.

    Do I agree with Kobe about playing through injury, I don’t know. Most players play with injuries but with Dwights its about how much pain he can take. He’s going to have to go through surgery through the offseason anyway. The problem is he’s not 100% sure he wants to stay with this franchise or not. All in all, I can see where Kobe is coming from telling him to play through it. But at the same time people need to look at Dwights perspective from a career standpoint.

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  • #745348
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    FastAndFurious
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    I understand where both players are coming from…..I just dont like how Kobe goes about situations tho, he’s a jerk, he messed up his legacy by getting rid of Shaq, but being spoiled, he gets Bynum,Gasol,Artest,Nash and Howard….and he still doesn’t realize when to just bequiet.

    They always get players to help Kobe but if it isn’t done his way he doesn’t like it, Shaq didn’t like playing with Kobe, Bynum didn’t like playing with Kobe, and it’s obvious Dwight doesn’t either, I understand Kobe’s will to win is strong, but he has to realize he cant just talk to anyone or say things about anyone when they are there to help, because when he had Smush Parker and Chris Mihm he wanted to bolt LA and whine like a baby, but when he gets help he bashes the help.

    I dont get Kobe, never have, never will, I respect his game, but never have I liked him as a person, his ego is entirely to big.

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    • #745351
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      Kyrie Irving

      Nice post.
      Another thing about being Kobe’s teammate is, you can’t play bad… but you most def. can’t play better than Kobe or he will hijack games imho.

      Paraphrasing another poster here, who’s name i forgot: “Kobe likes winning, but most importantly, above all, he likes to be THE reason for winning.

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  • #745355
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    FastAndFurious
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    Thanks

    But your right, it’s like a lose lose situation, and that was so obvious with Shaq, if Shaq dropped 30, you better believe that next game Kobe was getting 40, and looking the big fella off.

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