[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 "For December. Wall is doing it all and he is playing like a top 5 pg right now no question. It’s no secret that Irving is my favorite pg and that I believe Paul is the best pg of his generation. I like Wall and i respect his game but I don’t respect the one sided arguments for him. Now that Wall is not winning everyone is saying he needs help but when Irving wasn’t winning it was his game is just flashy and doesn’t translate into wins. The cast that Wall has now even injury -riddled is Way better that anything Irving had Pre- Lebron."

"  I remember one season before All-Star break Irving was the Only one in the starting lineup averaging double figure points. The other player who was had gotten hurt but Irving caught so much flak for his team not winning but who did he have? Nene, Gortat, Beal and maybe Porter, are better than any player Irving has had Pre-Lebron. He got Deng for a half a season but that didn’t work, waiters was a cancer. Jarret Jack might have been the best player Irving had Pre-Lebron"

"  My point simply being you can be great but you have to have some decent or good players around you to win, plain and simple. Nevertheless hats off to Wall he is doing all he can to put his team into position to win and what more can you ask. I hope he continues his tear and gets the respect he deserves. Wall gets an unfair shake as well as one poster mention that he is not Rose or Westbrook but I think he runs a team way better than both of them."

This is a comment on my post by how John Wall was playing by "NJHooper95"

I completly disagree with this because this Wizards team is just 2 games out of the playoffs, as Kyrie Irving team’s pre-LeBron would be way out of the playoff picture at this time. People not saying "just put people around Wall and he would be good" like you said in the first paragraph. People are saying that let his players get back healthy and they will be back to the team that people had in the preseason as a team that can compete with Cleveland. You tryiny to push that argument.

And you totally lost me when you trying to mention the Wizards current players to Cavs former players. When people make the argument about how Irving couldn’t make the playoffs is because that he plays in the EASTERN CONFERENCE, him alone should have them in the eight seed. Wall made the playoffs when Bradley Beal missed lots of the season, Nene missed most of the season, Otto Porter wasn’t on the team, Trevor Ariza was the second best player, and they had zero bench help. They still made the playoffs.  People say how Kyrie never made the playoffs in the awful east at the time.

My point to disclaim your argument that "We give John Wall a ‘pass’ for not being in the playoffs this year (even though they have tons of time) for his teammates performance, but not Kyrie" is based on a lie. Most argument was that how great Kyrie is that he should will his team to the playoffs regardless of teammates in the horrible eastern conference. While, Wall made the playoffs with him being the best player on the team, while making players around him better.

 

 

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