[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

Can any of you guys please explain the new plan for the CBA, this whole hard cap thing and no MLE?  I’m not really understanding it.  Thanks

[goneParticipant]

Why didnt you ask Mcdunkin he is good at making pop out books illustrating the history of Anthony Randolph potential?

[goneParticipant]

Why didnt you ask Mcdunkin he is good at making pop out books illustrating the history of Anthony Randolph potential?

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

LMAO, if he reads this thread and your post, it’s going to become a GIF thread lol!

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

LMAO, if he reads this thread and your post, it’s going to become a GIF thread lol!

[McDunkin]

Hey guys…what ya got goin on in here?

[McDunkin]

Hey guys…what ya got goin on in here?

[goneParticipant]

Too late 🙂

[goneParticipant]

Too late 🙂

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

LMFAO!  Nothing bro, we’re just chilling.. haha

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

LMFAO!  Nothing bro, we’re just chilling.. haha

[llperez]

well even though i wasnt asked, a hard cap is basically, by defenition, a set limit which teams can spend on their roster without anyexceptions to go over that limit. Currently the nba has a cap, but they have the larry bird excption which allows teams to resign their own players who have been with the team for more then 3 years even if they are above the cap already, they have the MLE which is approximately 6 million dollars they can spend each year even if they are over the cap, they have the bi annual which is about 2 mill they can spend every other year even when they are over the cap. SO basically teams have these exceptions that allows their pay roll to exceed the "cap" limit. But the NBA wants to do away with all these exceptions and make it a hard cap.

Personally, i dont think the nba owners would even like a hard cap. Sure they talk about saving money, but lets see what happens as soon as they lose some key players becasue they cant afford them. You realize the lakers only got to keep lamar odom becasue of the larry bird exception, only got artest becasue of the MLE, only kept shannon brown becasue of Bi annual exception. ANd im pretty sure they wouldnt even be able to give kobe hte extension they did if there was a true "hard cap" since they were way over the salary cap.

[llperez]

well even though i wasnt asked, a hard cap is basically, by defenition, a set limit which teams can spend on their roster without anyexceptions to go over that limit. Currently the nba has a cap, but they have the larry bird excption which allows teams to resign their own players who have been with the team for more then 3 years even if they are above the cap already, they have the MLE which is approximately 6 million dollars they can spend each year even if they are over the cap, they have the bi annual which is about 2 mill they can spend every other year even when they are over the cap. SO basically teams have these exceptions that allows their pay roll to exceed the "cap" limit. But the NBA wants to do away with all these exceptions and make it a hard cap.

Personally, i dont think the nba owners would even like a hard cap. Sure they talk about saving money, but lets see what happens as soon as they lose some key players becasue they cant afford them. You realize the lakers only got to keep lamar odom becasue of the larry bird exception, only got artest becasue of the MLE, only kept shannon brown becasue of Bi annual exception. ANd im pretty sure they wouldnt even be able to give kobe hte extension they did if there was a true "hard cap" since they were way over the salary cap.

[goneParticipant]

Anybody see they found a cure for AIDS…….Magic finally gave in

Dont go crazy Tongue-out-like-23 I know the ladies dont call you tongue out for no reason

[goneParticipant]

Anybody see they found a cure for AIDS…….Magic finally gave in

Dont go crazy Tongue-out-like-23 I know the ladies dont call you tongue out for no reason

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

Oooooh, Okay.. Thanks llperez, I get it now.  So the hard cap would be about 58mil?  Like, the salary cap would be replaced by the hard cap?  Or would the hard cap raise a bit and be, say.. 65m?

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

Oooooh, Okay.. Thanks llperez, I get it now.  So the hard cap would be about 58mil?  Like, the salary cap would be replaced by the hard cap?  Or would the hard cap raise a bit and be, say.. 65m?

[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

Basically, a hard cap would mean that at a certain point you can not exceed that salary as a team whatsoever. Think about it like you are playing an Association mode in NBA 2k11. Their is really no way to penalize a team dollar for dollar in the video game, so they set up a hard cap, a number that can not be exceeded by your team. It would basically be a number probably slightly greater than where the current luxury tax is set. So, there would still be a salary cap, except now instead of having a soft cap, which is penalized by a dollar for dollar luxury tax, they would have a hard cap, which is a point that could not be exceeded. This would not only save owners from paying a dollar for dollar luxury tax, but it would also maybe even out the playing fields a bit more and might require teams to make some serious moves to get under the hard cap. It could even mean that Miami might have to move one of their three players making close to the maximum. All in all, it would save owners money at the end of the day and would more than likely mean that players would make less money and have their contracts recstructured. The players are very much against a hard cap, because this current system has worked out quite well.

During the last lockout, players such as Michael Jordan had made insane amounts of money, and their was really no limit to what a player could make. When they finally instituted the pay scale which featured a salary maximum and gave teams a chance to sign a player at the MLE if they exceeded the salary cap, than the owners of course thought their problems were solved. However, the luxury tax has made things a little more difficult than imagined, and are probably hurting the owners profit margins fairly deeply. While I do not think the NBA is in poor of a state of affairs as the league and owners like to say they are in, I am sure they would love to not only have a cap on player salaries, but also a cap on the amount of money they have to spend on player salaries. I have not even read or seen the new CBA, but I just have a feeling that this is how it works and wanted to give my explanation of what a hard cap is, how it would change things and why you might not see an MLE. Chances are the salary cap would be higher than it is now, but the hard cap would just mean that you can only have so much tied into player salaries. The split between the league and its players would once again favor the owners rather than the players, think of it what you will but that would be the likely scenario.

[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

Basically, a hard cap would mean that at a certain point you can not exceed that salary as a team whatsoever. Think about it like you are playing an Association mode in NBA 2k11. Their is really no way to penalize a team dollar for dollar in the video game, so they set up a hard cap, a number that can not be exceeded by your team. It would basically be a number probably slightly greater than where the current luxury tax is set. So, there would still be a salary cap, except now instead of having a soft cap, which is penalized by a dollar for dollar luxury tax, they would have a hard cap, which is a point that could not be exceeded. This would not only save owners from paying a dollar for dollar luxury tax, but it would also maybe even out the playing fields a bit more and might require teams to make some serious moves to get under the hard cap. It could even mean that Miami might have to move one of their three players making close to the maximum. All in all, it would save owners money at the end of the day and would more than likely mean that players would make less money and have their contracts recstructured. The players are very much against a hard cap, because this current system has worked out quite well.

During the last lockout, players such as Michael Jordan had made insane amounts of money, and their was really no limit to what a player could make. When they finally instituted the pay scale which featured a salary maximum and gave teams a chance to sign a player at the MLE if they exceeded the salary cap, than the owners of course thought their problems were solved. However, the luxury tax has made things a little more difficult than imagined, and are probably hurting the owners profit margins fairly deeply. While I do not think the NBA is in poor of a state of affairs as the league and owners like to say they are in, I am sure they would love to not only have a cap on player salaries, but also a cap on the amount of money they have to spend on player salaries. I have not even read or seen the new CBA, but I just have a feeling that this is how it works and wanted to give my explanation of what a hard cap is, how it would change things and why you might not see an MLE. Chances are the salary cap would be higher than it is now, but the hard cap would just mean that you can only have so much tied into player salaries. The split between the league and its players would once again favor the owners rather than the players, think of it what you will but that would be the likely scenario.

[JNixonParticipant]

I’m learning just as much as you are by this post tol23

[JNixonParticipant]

I’m learning just as much as you are by this post tol23

[McDunkin]

I was just about to post a long CBA explanation before llperez and mikey had to jump in with their encyclopedia answers.

This is why i stick to what i know…gifs so since those know it alls want to stunt my growth as a poster fine..So whenever i post a random gif/joke/video thats not funny/lame/stupid…you all can look back at this thread and say thanks to ll and mikey for making me who i am…get ready to be "McDunked on"

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[McDunkin]

I was just about to post a long CBA explanation before llperez and mikey had to jump in with their encyclopedia answers.

This is why i stick to what i know…gifs so since those know it alls want to stunt my growth as a poster fine..So whenever i post a random gif/joke/video thats not funny/lame/stupid…you all can look back at this thread and say thanks to ll and mikey for making me who i am…get ready to be "McDunked on"

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