[valentine]

 I’m re-watching the Kentucky-Wisconsin Final Four game, and Andrew Harrison was clearly the best player on that stacked team. He dominated the first half and came out strong in the second. He’s got poise like Billups, and he’s strong like him, and he’s a good and ever improving shooter, and he has the full array of scoring moves. Always under control and thinking clearly. He can make the big shot, he can create for his teammates, and I think he’s been the steadying hand for Kentucky the past two years. It sure wasn’t spazz Calipari.

 

Give me Andrew Harrison over Mudiay, he’s like a best case scenario for Mudiay’s iffy future.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[BrentSuriaga01Participant]

I’m wondering why some guys tries very hard just to get negs by posting insane forums like this. 

[BrentSuriaga01Participant]

I’m wondering why some guys tries very hard just to get negs by posting insane forums like this. 

[CameronCrazy11Participant]

 You really just do not like Emmanuel Mudiay, do you?

[CameronCrazy11Participant]

 You really just do not like Emmanuel Mudiay, do you?

[arambone2]

 Not in the top five.

 

 

[arambone2]

 Not in the top five.

 

 

[mamadouParticipant]

 So you’ll like him because he’s kings bound.

[mamadouParticipant]

 So you’ll like him because he’s kings bound.

[trelos6Participant]

Russell, Mudiay, Payne, Jones, Grant, Wright, Rozier, Trice, Young, Fuzaro, Hanlan, Boatright, de Paula

[arambone2]

 What Harrison brings, in addition to the poise and full offensive skillset, is above average shooting guard size.

213 lbs at 5% body fat is Strong for the shooting guard position. And his 6’6" height and 6’9" wingspan are all big for a shooting guard. Those other prospects are going to be expending crazy energy trying to guard the Westbrooks of the NBA, with varying results. Harrison is going to be an above average sg defender, and he’s probably going to bulk up to a DWade-ian 220lbs. With more height and a better jumper.

Like an old Wade, probably, with a better jumper. AKA Chauncey Billups. All around polished offensive force. Lots trips to the FT line. Versatile enough to guard three positions, and play on and off the ball.

Can back up 3 positions or start at any of them if needed. With the poise to step in and kick ass like Dellavedova.

All the criticism about him being not athletic enough is based on him guarding a position he won’t usually be guarding in real life. You just play him with a smaller guard, and let his skill level really shine against slower shooting guards.

And he definitely has some small ball small forward potential, like an Evan Turner type point forward. 

And if he can somehow hold his own defensively against the good starting point guards, that makes him that much more valuable.

And he already has much more experience in big games than Russell or Mudiay, and Harrison always shined brightest in the biggest moments. Even moreso as a sophomore.

Guard strength is underrated but very important. Andrew has serious guard strength. 13 lbs stronger than Wiggins. Probably better suited to defend SFs even.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[MopgrassParticipant]

 I also think Harrison is vastly underrated. His problem has never been skills, it’s all between the ears. I’m A bit astonishied you walked away from the Wisconsin game thinking, "That Harrison kid is did so well." He and his brother (double-handedly?) lost that game for Kentucky in a completely winnable situation. The two of them repeatedly drove down the center of the lane and got blocked or stopped a bunch times in a row, trying to be the heroes. Yes, I’d been thinking how much his stock was going to go up in that game until he Harrisoned it in the last 3 minutes. 

If we were just talking about skill, he’s a lottery pick. But his mentality is tragic. Some coach will need to break him and build him back up again (which I’m usually against) like in the army. He brainwashed himself into thinking he’s Michael Jordan or something and someone needs to undo the damage (Popovich?). I still think there’s a chance he could make the 1st round, but he’d have to interview well and play team ball in workouts. 

[arambone2]

 I made this thread before re-watching the last ten minutes. I’ll watch it today. But glad somebody else saw how dominant he was befor that. Nobody even gives him credit for his skills.

And if his biggest problem is playing hero ball at the end of games, I’m not sure an overhaul of his mentality is necessary. That over-confident attitude is actually a positive for a sixth man, and Harrison can back up three positions.

I like that he’s not combo guard size, stuck between positions physically, while he’s capable of guarding three positions but at least really solid at guarding SGs. 

And as a secondary ball handler, alongside another point guard, he should be a really, really well rounded shooting guard.

And you can always bench him at the end of games. He’s just a late first/early second round pick.

 

 

 

 

 

  

[arambone2]

 I made this thread before re-watching the last ten minutes. I’ll watch it today. But glad somebody else saw how dominant he was befor that. Nobody even gives him credit for his skills.

And if his biggest problem is playing hero ball at the end of games, I’m not sure an overhaul of his mentality is necessary. That over-confident attitude is actually a positive for a sixth man, and Harrison can back up three positions.

I like that he’s not combo guard size, stuck between positions physically, while he’s capable of guarding three positions but at least really solid at guarding SGs. 

And as a secondary ball handler, alongside another point guard, he should be a really, really well rounded shooting guard.

And you can always bench him at the end of games. He’s just a late first/early second round pick.

 

 

 

 

 

  

[MopgrassParticipant]

 I also think Harrison is vastly underrated. His problem has never been skills, it’s all between the ears. I’m A bit astonishied you walked away from the Wisconsin game thinking, "That Harrison kid is did so well." He and his brother (double-handedly?) lost that game for Kentucky in a completely winnable situation. The two of them repeatedly drove down the center of the lane and got blocked or stopped a bunch times in a row, trying to be the heroes. Yes, I’d been thinking how much his stock was going to go up in that game until he Harrisoned it in the last 3 minutes. 

If we were just talking about skill, he’s a lottery pick. But his mentality is tragic. Some coach will need to break him and build him back up again (which I’m usually against) like in the army. He brainwashed himself into thinking he’s Michael Jordan or something and someone needs to undo the damage (Popovich?). I still think there’s a chance he could make the 1st round, but he’d have to interview well and play team ball in workouts. 

[arambone2]

 What Harrison brings, in addition to the poise and full offensive skillset, is above average shooting guard size.

213 lbs at 5% body fat is Strong for the shooting guard position. And his 6’6" height and 6’9" wingspan are all big for a shooting guard. Those other prospects are going to be expending crazy energy trying to guard the Westbrooks of the NBA, with varying results. Harrison is going to be an above average sg defender, and he’s probably going to bulk up to a DWade-ian 220lbs. With more height and a better jumper.

Like an old Wade, probably, with a better jumper. AKA Chauncey Billups. All around polished offensive force. Lots trips to the FT line. Versatile enough to guard three positions, and play on and off the ball.

Can back up 3 positions or start at any of them if needed. With the poise to step in and kick ass like Dellavedova.

All the criticism about him being not athletic enough is based on him guarding a position he won’t usually be guarding in real life. You just play him with a smaller guard, and let his skill level really shine against slower shooting guards.

And he definitely has some small ball small forward potential, like an Evan Turner type point forward. 

And if he can somehow hold his own defensively against the good starting point guards, that makes him that much more valuable.

And he already has much more experience in big games than Russell or Mudiay, and Harrison always shined brightest in the biggest moments. Even moreso as a sophomore.

Guard strength is underrated but very important. Andrew has serious guard strength. 13 lbs stronger than Wiggins. Probably better suited to defend SFs even.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[trelos6Participant]

Russell, Mudiay, Payne, Jones, Grant, Wright, Rozier, Trice, Young, Fuzaro, Hanlan, Boatright, de Paula

[King CaluchaParticipant]

I already said this. He’s making a ton of bold statements and if he gets just 1, he’ll brag in the forum like there’s no other day. Or… he’s just a troll who doesn’t know how to troll.

[arambone2]

 And if you ever have an uncoventional opinion you’ll keep it to yourself, lest you get negged.

[arambone2]

 And if you ever have an uncoventional opinion you’ll keep it to yourself, lest you get negged.

[King CaluchaParticipant]

I already said this. He’s making a ton of bold statements and if he gets just 1, he’ll brag in the forum like there’s no other day. Or… he’s just a troll who doesn’t know how to troll.

[ilike.panochasParticipant]

Andrew Harrison’s best case senario is Alvin Williams/Antonio Daniels. I think he would be lucky to even have the same career as Antonio Daniels, I see Harrison just flaming out of the league in maybe 3-4 years.

[ilike.panochasParticipant]

Andrew Harrison’s best case senario is Alvin Williams/Antonio Daniels. I think he would be lucky to even have the same career as Antonio Daniels, I see Harrison just flaming out of the league in maybe 3-4 years.

[he_gets_bucketsParticipant]

 "Like an old Dwade with a better jumper"

If this was an apt description of Andrew Harrison the dude would be a clear cut number 1 pick. 

 

[arambone2]

 Naw, but he’d be right there with Mudiay in the second half of the top 10.

 

 

[mopoParticipant]

If you were to compare prospect D Wade with a better jumper to guys in this draft that may be right, but Wade was the most dynamic player in the league for stretches even with his iffy jumper. 

[mopoParticipant]

If you were to compare prospect D Wade with a better jumper to guys in this draft that may be right, but Wade was the most dynamic player in the league for stretches even with his iffy jumper. 

[arambone2]

 I said OLD DWade, not prime DWade.

 

 

[arambone2]

 I said OLD DWade, not prime DWade.

 

 

[arambone2]

 Naw, but he’d be right there with Mudiay in the second half of the top 10.

 

 

[he_gets_bucketsParticipant]

 "Like an old Dwade with a better jumper"

If this was an apt description of Andrew Harrison the dude would be a clear cut number 1 pick. 

 

[holefillersParticipant]

 the Harrison brothers are not nba players. But if i had to choose one it would be aaron. At least he has shown the ability to hit big shots. Thats where i could see a Billups comp. Bottom line is these guys were rated super high coming out of H.S. and it took about two games their freshmen year for everyone to realize they were both vastly over rated.

[holefillersParticipant]

 the Harrison brothers are not nba players. But if i had to choose one it would be aaron. At least he has shown the ability to hit big shots. Thats where i could see a Billups comp. Bottom line is these guys were rated super high coming out of H.S. and it took about two games their freshmen year for everyone to realize they were both vastly over rated.

[The QParticipant]

 While the Harrisons did snatch defeat from the jaws of victory against Wisky, I am surprised by how well Harrison shot the 3 ball. 

His size at PG is nice. 

But he’s not quick. 

He’s closer to a better shooting Jeryl Sasser than Chauncey Billups though. 

 

 

 
 

 

[arambone2]

 His quickness is at least average for a shooting guard, and he’s crafty enough with his ball handling to get where he needs to go against shooting guards. He just needs to be paired with a Pat Beverley or Avery Bradley or Terry Rozier type smaller guard, and Harrison should be able to start in the NBA.

Just like Russell and Mudiay, actually. Those guys are going to be exposed big time if they are guarding starting nba point guards rather than playing alongside a smaller, quicker guard.

 

 

 

[arambone2]

 His quickness is at least average for a shooting guard, and he’s crafty enough with his ball handling to get where he needs to go against shooting guards. He just needs to be paired with a Pat Beverley or Avery Bradley or Terry Rozier type smaller guard, and Harrison should be able to start in the NBA.

Just like Russell and Mudiay, actually. Those guys are going to be exposed big time if they are guarding starting nba point guards rather than playing alongside a smaller, quicker guard.

 

 

 

[The QParticipant]

 While the Harrisons did snatch defeat from the jaws of victory against Wisky, I am surprised by how well Harrison shot the 3 ball. 

His size at PG is nice. 

But he’s not quick. 

He’s closer to a better shooting Jeryl Sasser than Chauncey Billups though. 

 

 

 
 

 

[JoeWolf1]

 While Harrion has good size, strength, and adequate athletic ability for an NBA combo guard ( he’s not a point ), and the ability to hit big shots after having a horrible game, and remain confident, I just don’t feel he’s a guy that’s going to excel in the NBA.

His shot selection all year was pretty weak, as is evident by his 38% shooting clip on only 6.8 shots per game. That isn’t the line of an overconfident chucker, but a player who doesn’t really get it…He can run an offense at the college level, but I felt he never grasped true offensive feel. 

I think that in part allowed him to sink big shots 35 minutes into a game in which he struggled, but it also allowed him to take bad shots thinking they were good shots, and repeat the same mistake all year.

If a team buys into Andrew Harrison the person, then drafting him in the late 1st round, and signing him to a 3 year guaranteed contract with a 4th year option could make sense. He has some intriguing elements to his game, and if a team likes him the person, and feel they can mesh with him to develop him over a few years….great.

The other part of that is that if he were sitting on the board, and I didn’t have that feeling, I wouldn’t have a problem passing him up, in the first round. The other part of that is that he’s worth a non-guaranteed 2nd round selection, and if he can prove himself during Summer League, a spot on your D-League or regular season roster.

I guess I see some intrigue, but not the makings of a DWade lite, nor a Chauncey Billups type player. I think Keith Bogans wouldn’t be bad comparison. Bogans was a strong bodied collegiate point guard, who transitioned into more of a defensive oriented 3 and D combo guard.

[JoeWolf1]

 While Harrion has good size, strength, and adequate athletic ability for an NBA combo guard ( he’s not a point ), and the ability to hit big shots after having a horrible game, and remain confident, I just don’t feel he’s a guy that’s going to excel in the NBA.

His shot selection all year was pretty weak, as is evident by his 38% shooting clip on only 6.8 shots per game. That isn’t the line of an overconfident chucker, but a player who doesn’t really get it…He can run an offense at the college level, but I felt he never grasped true offensive feel. 

I think that in part allowed him to sink big shots 35 minutes into a game in which he struggled, but it also allowed him to take bad shots thinking they were good shots, and repeat the same mistake all year.

If a team buys into Andrew Harrison the person, then drafting him in the late 1st round, and signing him to a 3 year guaranteed contract with a 4th year option could make sense. He has some intriguing elements to his game, and if a team likes him the person, and feel they can mesh with him to develop him over a few years….great.

The other part of that is that if he were sitting on the board, and I didn’t have that feeling, I wouldn’t have a problem passing him up, in the first round. The other part of that is that he’s worth a non-guaranteed 2nd round selection, and if he can prove himself during Summer League, a spot on your D-League or regular season roster.

I guess I see some intrigue, but not the makings of a DWade lite, nor a Chauncey Billups type player. I think Keith Bogans wouldn’t be bad comparison. Bogans was a strong bodied collegiate point guard, who transitioned into more of a defensive oriented 3 and D combo guard.

[ZachAttackParticipant]

 Dude, you have so many negs on all your posts it’s ridiculous. Maybe you should be sober when you post on this site.

[ZachAttackParticipant]

 Dude, you have so many negs on all your posts it’s ridiculous. Maybe you should be sober when you post on this site.

[arambone2]

 Notice how you don’t see anybody actually denying that he’s highly skilled, poised in big games, and ready to be a solid defender against shooting guards. And he shot 38% from 3, and 80% from the FT line.

He’s done a lot more to earn a (taller) Chauncey Billups comp than Mudiay has to earn a John Wall comp, no matter how many negs this thread gets.

And in groupthink world, it’s apparently easier to teach a player to play with poise, to shoot, and to defend, and to make good passing decisions than it is to teach a guy to tone down his hero ball tendancies.

Um, OK.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[arambone2]

 Notice how you don’t see anybody actually denying that he’s highly skilled, poised in big games, and ready to be a solid defender against shooting guards. And he shot 38% from 3, and 80% from the FT line.

He’s done a lot more to earn a (taller) Chauncey Billups comp than Mudiay has to earn a John Wall comp, no matter how many negs this thread gets.

And in groupthink world, it’s apparently easier to teach a player to play with poise, to shoot, and to defend, and to make good passing decisions than it is to teach a guy to tone down his hero ball tendancies.

Um, OK.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[tylerchimParticipant]

 He’s not highly skilled, he isn’t poised in big games, and isn’t ready to be a solid defender against shooting guards. There is a reason he is projected as a second round pick. It’s because people whose opinions are alot more valid (NBA Front Offices), realize that he is not the prospect that everyone was hoping he would be coming out of high school. I hope he becomes Billups, but I really don’t see anything close to that happenning

[tylerchimParticipant]

 He’s not highly skilled, he isn’t poised in big games, and isn’t ready to be a solid defender against shooting guards. There is a reason he is projected as a second round pick. It’s because people whose opinions are alot more valid (NBA Front Offices), realize that he is not the prospect that everyone was hoping he would be coming out of high school. I hope he becomes Billups, but I really don’t see anything close to that happenning

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