Harry Giles and DeAndre Ayton

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Harry Giles and DeAndre Ayton

I’m just curious in what everyone is expecting of these two former top recruits. First, it was great to see Giles for the most part healthy last season. He and Bagley should form a formidable front court for ears to come and the thought of him running the floor with Fox just gets me so excited as a basketball fan. He will start the year behind Dedmon but I think he should surpass him sometime relatively early in the season. I thought Joerger was the perfect coach for him as Walton doesn’t really get me that excited but we’ll see.

As for Ayton, his rookie season might have gotten lost in the shuffle and may not compare as such to Trae and Luka. But the Suns should still be pumped up about where he is in his developement. Kokoslav was not the coach for him and seeing him under Monty who did such great work in NOLA with AD has me thrilled about the possibilities. Though the Suns are forward- heavy and probably should have drafted a PG, teammates under Rubio do happen to have career years under him.

So what are y’all expectations for this duo this upcoming season?


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I'm pretty interested to see

I'm pretty interested to see what Harry Giles does because there is a lot of competition in the Kings front court. Unless he's made major improvements I imagine Giles is still 4th on the front court depth chart behind Bagley, Dedmon, and Bjelica (for spacing). If he can improve his shot he could assume Bjelica's minutes, but that seems unlikely. He could challenge Dedmon, but the team may prefer keeping the veteran out there. I doubt he surpasses Bagley, but stranger things have happened.

As for DeAndre Ayton getting Monty Williams in as coach should be a big help to the whole team. I was surprised to see the Suns passed on drafting a point guard by trading back, but just having Ricky Rubio is an improvement for them. Ayton already put up big numbers, hopefully this year those numbers equate to a lot more wins.

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Hard to say honestly....

Ayton will be a solid big,The question is what will Monty do to help expand his game as he is sort of in that Deandre Jordan mould, which is good but I don't fully know if he is a Franchise piece that will fully put you over the top or just a really really good starter.

Harry Giles...It will depend on if Bagley is seen as a centre or PF? If Bagley is a PF,its between Dedmon and him meaning he will at least get a shot...But the issue is will his body hold up not really his game..Heres hoping he can stay healthy and we will get to see if he is what he can be...

Also Low key hoping Billy Donovan gets fired from OKC and either Jaeger or Jeff Van gundy get a shot at our Head coach job...

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Did you really watch Ayton play?

The young man is a gazelle, Jordan is a dump truck. If Ayton improves on the defense he could be the next Olajuwon or David Robinson.

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Ayton is about as polar

Ayton is about as polar opposite from Deandre Jordan as you can find lol. Their similarities basically start and end at their height.

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Not fully disagreeing.

Depends on what Ayton does on a contender/winning team vs on a lottery team..As we have seen what D.J can do on both..

But think of the lob city Clippers.

Aytons game how it is similar. Both need a Pg to set the table to fully get the most out of their game.

Both are rim Runners.

Ayton has height and mobility to be defensively solid like D.J.

Both couldn't legit carry a team to anything major..Well Ayton still has time but judging by Bookers lack of success(whos game is more suited to NBA than Aytons) I am not holding my breath if that makes sense..

In terms of role though: I see him as 3rd option posibly key starter on a legit contender..I don't see him being a number 1 or 2 option of a title threat team...Especially with the way league has currently trended..

The only slight difference is Ayton has a bit of a mid game and can hit a F/T earlier in his career than D.J..The one lucky thing for Ayton with the Suns poaching OKC Big man coach(see Adams starting vs Now as MB gets a lot of the credit for that) Ayton should take some form of jump at the very least....

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He can

He can definitely post up too, its a lazy comparison that starts with their physical dimensions and ends at that.Infact I'd say its even insulting to compare DeAndre Jordan's offensive game with that of a DeAndre Aytons. If you looked at how abysmal the suns played last year they didn't get him the ball in any post positioning spot even when he positioned himself so well back to the basket.Kokoskov held no accountability within his team on even attempting to give Ayton the ball and he still finished with an efficient 16 and 10 as a rookie. I don't see why his numbers can't be similar to KAT (a little less fewer points, and not as good a three point shooter) in a few years. His defense definitely needs work though but with his potential I can't see why he can't acheive it.

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I didn't watch Giles play too much.

I am excited to see Aytons game under a big friendly coach though, and a point guard that looks for his bigs. I'm guessing 21/12/3/1.5/1.0 pts/rbs/ast/blk/stl this coming season. He was 16/10/2/1 last year.

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For all the flack Ricky Rubio

For all the flack Ricky Rubio gets, he was a gift to Karl-Anthony Towns. When he was running the point, he made sure it wasn't Wiggins and LaVine keeping the ball from Towns. While I have doubts about how good Phoenix will be, I don't think they will stop anyone, I do believe their offense should make a leap as Rubio will make sure everyone stays involved. It might not be the best thing for Booker's numbers, but if they are ever going anywhere they need Ayton, Bridges, Cam, Dario, and Oubre to develop. I suspect Dario will be the 6th man so he can have more of the ball, but the others need a point to help get them to where they need to be offensively.

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