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  • #18388
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    don042488
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    I think the Indiana Pacers should trade New Orleans native, Danny Granger, to his hometown Hornets, for Darren Collinson and David West…The Pacers get their starting point guard in Collinson and the Hornets get a local product, who happens to be an all-star player, and the perimeter shooter Chris Paul so happens to need around him…Works out for both teams

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  • #345444
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    RUDEBOY_
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    Love that trade..But who will play power forward for the Hornets?

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  • #345448
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    Toronto16
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    Not a bad deal.

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  • #345450
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    Toronto16
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    Not a bad deal for either team.

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  • #345451
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    Platypus
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    They need to throw Brandon Rush in the deal, it will give the Hornets a starting 2 and let George and Stephenson play more

    Hornets

    Paul – Thorton
    Rush – Pondexter
    Granger – Peja / Posey
    Brackins – Wright
    Okafor – Songailla

    Pacers

    Collison – Ford
    Stephenson – D. Jones (either or can start)
    George – Dunleavey
    West – Murphy
    Hibbert – Foster

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  • #345455
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    don042488
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    I already made sure the deal matched financially, adding Rush to the deal, would make the Hornets have to throw another player in, which probably would be little used, Julian Wright…And the Hornets already have a starting shooting guard in Marcus Thornton.

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  • #345458
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    Platypus
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    Marcus Thorton is best coming off the bench for a team

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  • #345465
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    don042488
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    I feel the Hornets should get a defensive specialist the shooting guard position, that can nail three’s, to open to the floor for Chris Paul, ala Raja Bell, and make Thornton come off the bench

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  • #345466
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    don042488
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    I feel the Hornets should get a defensive specialist the shooting guard position, that can nail three’s, to open to the floor for Chris Paul, ala Raja Bell, and make Thornton come off the bench

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  • #345468
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    don042488
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    I feel the Hornets should get a defensive specialist the shooting guard position, that can nail three’s, to open to the floor for Chris Paul, ala Raja Bell, and make Thornton come off the bench

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  • #345469
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    don042488
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    I feel the Hornets should get a defensive specialist at the shooting guard position, that can nail three’s, to open to the floor for Chris Paul, ala Raja Bell, and make Thornton come off the bench

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  • #345471
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    Platypus
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    Raja Bell would be with this line up but he’s 33 years old

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  • #345476
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    don042488
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    In the NBA, you can’t judge a player’s ability, from his age…Derek Fisher was very solid in the playoffs, as a 37 year old, so you never know

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  • #345479
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    Platypus
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    yeah he’s a solid vet but it doesnt give them too much of a future at the position

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  • #345482
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    mikeyvthedon
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    Would really be starting from scratch and without a star. Would make things very difficult. I think West benefits a lot from playing with Chris Paul. Even if the Hornets would be soft up front with out West, they already pretty much were anyway. I think it would be a very nice trade for New Orleans much more so than Indiana.

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  • #345485
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    Platypus
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    Pacers could pretty much need from scratch. they’ll have a future with Stephenson, George, Collison, and Hibbert. then after next season Dunleaveys 10.5 mill, Murphys 12 mill, Fosters 6.5 mill, Fords 8.5 mill, and Tinsleys 5.5 mill which is a total of 33 million

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  • #345494
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    Daleo
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    i like this trade because granger would help out paul a lot, though the hornets are taking a gamble with having craig brackins becoming a legit starter. If he can give them like 12 to 15 points a game and maybe 5 to 7 rebounds, then this trade would be great. The hornets bench is young and has a lot of talent.

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  • #345531
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    Platypus
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    they would take Jones and Price

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  • #345533
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    joecheck88
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    where u been man? good to see u back.

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  • #345559
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    IndianaBasketball
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    I’m having a hard time understanding those of you who think this is a good deal.

    The Pacers are giving up their franchise player, All-Star and top 20 player in the league for Collison and David West??? There’d be A LOT of unhappy Pacer fans in Indianapolis.

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  • #345567
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    The Scare Crow Returns
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    It’s a hypothetical trade…And a decent to boot…Butler does this make it better

    Granger and Rush

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    D.West, Collision and Julian Wright(and a lottery protected 1st rounder in 2011)

    Starting Pg/Pf/ and defensive player on the bench…And a draft pick outside the lottery 15-25 range…

    You give up Granger who if asked today would probably opt out of his contract and become a free agent so he can Get The Max from the Clippers…

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  • #345573
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    IndianaBasketball
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    There isn’t an opt out clause in Danny’s contract. He’ll be with the Pacers until 2013-2014.

    I get a kick out of the T-Wolves and Hornets fans who think the Pacers are going to give Granger up to make their teams better lol. It’s not happening. The Pacers won’t trade Granger unless they’re getting another elite player or elite package in return.

    West, Collison, JULIAN WRIGHT and a lottery protected pick isn’t an elite package.

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  • #345580
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    The Scare Crow Returns
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    players aren’t worth One Danny Granger…You Do realize if that team doesn’t do something soon they” ll be the worst team in the NBA in a few years…You are counting on that Cap space when you could walk away with nothing or overpaying scrubs…Keep talking Like a Starting Pg and Pf and 2 solid role players at the least with Wright and a Draft Pick coming back too…West was an all star Granger was an all star…You also get three other prospects in return…You just drafted Granger’s clone and Lance to replace Rush…Lets be real…Make a move buddy or your the Clippers East….

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  • #345635
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    IndianaBasketball
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    What good would the Pacers be doing by trading Danny Granger right now? Things aren’t looking great in Indianapolis, but it’s not to the point where the Pacers need to actively shop Granger. All hope is not lost. Things are actually starting to look upward for the first time in years. The city getting closer to a deal on the arena lease only makes things better.

    The Pacers have FIVE expiring contracts heading into next season:

    Troy Murphy – $11,968,253
    Mike Dunleavy Jr. – $10,561,384
    TJ Ford – $8,500,000
    Jeff Foster – $6,655,000
    Jamaal Tinsley – $5,459,184 (Finally comes off of the books)
    Solomon Jones – $1,500,000.

    The goal was to find a point guard this summer, but it didn’t happen. The Pacers lost out on the John Wall sweepstakes and Bird couldn’t convince himself to pick Bledsoe or Bradley. He couldn’t connect on a good enough trade that made sense for the Pacers. Now Bird will have to be patient and dangle those expiring contracts as bait and hope they reel something in at some point during next season. IF not, then he’ll see what he can do via the 2011 NBA DRAFT. IF not the draft, then he’ll look towards the summer of 2011 when the Pacers will be significantly under the cap.

    I’m not overvaluing Granger, but to trade him now makes absolutely no sense, unless it’s for a deal that’s just a no brainer. He IS a top 20 player and the face of the franchise. He’s the reason fans even come to the games.

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  • #346255
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    sc0rebuckets11
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    I do like the trade. The 3 has been NO’s weak position since they left Charlotte, and Monster Mash was traded.

    Granger pulling up for 3 every 24 can get tiring in the fieldhouse.

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  • #346341
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    IndianaBasketball
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    “Granger pulling up for 3 every 24 can get tiring in the fieldhouse.”

    Not when he’s making ’em… And he does make them often. He’s a 40% three-point shooter.

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  • #346351
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    The Scare Crow Returns
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    If the Hornets offered you CP3 and Okefor for Granger, Murphy and Rush would you take it…>???

    Ain’t no one offering CP3 so take His very capable backup and a Starting “Former All Star” PF and role player for Granger and Rush…You get 20 and 8 guy in West and Collison and Wright to add to the Core of oh yeah Indiana Sucks …and they’ll suck with or without Granger….

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  • #346354
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    Platypus
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    Line ups

    Paul – Price
    Stephenson – D Jones
    George – Dunleavey
    Okafor – Hansbrough
    Hibbert – Foster

    Collison – Thorton (combo guard)
    Rush – Ponderxter
    Granger – Peja / Posey
    Brackins – Murphy
    West – Gray / Songailla

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  • #346359
    marcusfizer21marcusfizer21
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    Capitalizing the name JULIAN WRIGHT just to emphasize that he’s not going to make this deal elite… sweet…LOL

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  • #346360
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    Platypus
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    only problem with having Okafor in these trades is that the Hornets would have no center so if they do it then West would have to be dealt for a center maybe for like Al Jefferson

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  • #346398
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    Hale
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    Butler, I think this deal is liked because Georges’ upside is supposed to be like Granger, so with him being the potential replacement, they get a very good young pg and a nice pf as well in this deal.

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  • #346754
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    IndianaBasketball
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    @Mr.Minus-Me-Now

    “You suck Butler Bulldogs.”

    You’re irrellivant to me. You act like Mr. Tough Guy on a *website*, but you probably wouldn’t bust a grape in a fruit fight. One word describe dudes like you… lame.

    @yupyup

    George may have potential, but it’s not like he dominated at Fresno State. Scouts kept waiting, but he never did. It’s not like it’s a guarantee he’s going to be great in the NBA. He hasn’t even played a NBA game yet. I can see trading Granger in a year or two IF George pans out, but why trade Granger now because of a unproven rookie’s potential?

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  • #346757
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    The Scare Crow Returns
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    Just request me on facebook…you’ll see how Lame I am…Don’t be mad no one agrees with you…That’s the signs of a punk ass Beeotch…Tezo…Just request me…@ Esteban Noel on FB in Philadelphia…See me before you start talking…Because You sound like Douche and You cant beat me 1 on 1…In fact I would break your neck Tezo…Don’t fuck with a Mad Crow…I’ll peck your eyes out…Now go request me and talk then…

    “People hate who they can’t Be…”…..Keep Hating Me Butler Bull frog….

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  • #346760
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    The Scare Crow Returns
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    What you just argueed about trading Granger because you have a Rookie with great potential….

    It happens all the Time In the NFL and teams benefit from it every year…That’s why we have the Draft you dickhead…Your on a Draft Site….Now be mad your Team will not make the playoffs yet be out of Harrison Barnes,Perry Jones, Kyrie Irving, Enes Kanter, Jared Sullinger and Brandon Knight sweepstakes…

    You’ll suck just enough to miss out on the right Player…Just keep waiting on that Cap space and Hoping That #1 Pick comes around right…You are officially the Doucher of the Day…Congrats,…Now go bang your sister…

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  • #346762
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    IndianaBasketball
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    Why do I need to request you on facebook when I can see how lame you are right now? Like Lance Armstrong just said:

    “You don’t have to take more than one drink of sour milk to know it’s sour.”

    You’re sour and I knew that instantly… I don’t have to go to facebook to see it.

    You’re -1104 points and you’re telling me who people agree with? Right. Keep the “tough” guy routine up… Like I said… You wouldn’t bust a grape in a fruit fight.

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  • #346764
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    IndianaBasketball
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    “Now go bang your sister.”

    IF there was a delete feature, I’d go back and delete my comments. I’ve realized I’m posting back and forth with a guy who has an empty attic upstairs.

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  • #346765
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    SwatLakeCity
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    I agree with Butler Bulldogs. I think this is the worst trade for a PG the Pacers could do. They need to find someway to keep Danny Granger and still get a quality PG. They have a ton of expiring contracts. They can also package off their picks. Getting David West isn’t much. They already have Troy Murphy. Him and West have the same game so they would not compliment each other. David West is no allstar, the only reason why he was a former allstar is because of Chris Paul. Now without him, he will really suck. Yeah Collison is nice, but he is not worth the price of Granger.
    If I were the Pacers, and I was offering up Granger for a PG or a Pf, I would demand that the hornets give up CP3 and Okafor. In this trade you get a #2 pick, a defensive presence, someone who could possibly play Center, and still complement Murphy, and you of course get an allstar point guard. CP3 is an allstar because of himself not because of some other player, unlike David West. Danny Granger is also an allstar by himself. What’s better, an allstar by himself or an allstar because of a teammate? Duh, an allstar by himself!! This is why that mentioned trade is stupid for the Pacers.

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  • #346769
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    The Scare Crow Returns
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    Yeah Cowards Like You talking to me on this Site like I won’t break your face…Keep thinking the shyt won’t catch up to you…Any one can make a statement like “You won’t do this and you won’t do that”…The fact is you have your points because you ride the fence and steal points away from guys like Me who don’t give a shyt…I’m the realest person this site has…and I’m pretty bored of contributing awesomeness to it…You and the other guys can have fun posting your corn ball threads…I’ll check in when I’m bored and break balls when I see fit….

    Butler Bulldogs…1 more time for your lame ass…Go bang your Mother your inbreed Hick…

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  • #346779
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    SwatLakeCity
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    Mr. Minus Me Now, How are you the realest person this site has? You dis every person that comes on this site, dis every team you can think of. Yeah a few teams did horrible in the draft, but it isnt worth to go tell everyone things they ALREADY KNOW. Besides people don’t really like it when people dis their favorite team. Especially people who don’t what they are talking about like you. You have probably the lowest points ever. I’ve read most of your comments and they aren’t great. They are really dumb. You never think when you post. I definitely don’t see that 150 IQ affecting what you say when it should. I’d much rather listen to no_money or JNixoniggy9 or Knicksfan7 than you. Butler Bulldogs is right, “you couldn’t squash a grape in a fruit fight.”

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  • #347098
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    DaGuywhodidurma
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    i like this trade but it makes too much sense to get done

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  • #347099
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    DaGuywhodidurma
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    i like this trade but it makes too much sense to get done

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  • #347100
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    DaGuywhodidurma
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    i like this trade but it makes too much sense to get done.

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  • #347178
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    Hale
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    @Butler

    Never said I agree with it, that just is my opinion on why people think the trade is good.

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