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- Posted on: Fri, 01/20/2012 - 7:04pm #35781
PrecociousNeophyteParticipantWhen are the Knicks going to fire this guy? He doesn’t set plays, doesn’t make anyone play defence. The only thing I see him doing is clapping his hands on the sideline yelling LETS GO! LETS GO! at his players, and always yelling at the refs for making a bad call on something. Hey D’Antoni it’s not the refs, your team sucks.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/20/2012 - 7:28pm #627128
llperezi’ve never ever liked d’antoni. He is digging himself a huge hole in ny right. But they also need to call out the players and gm a little as well. I mean melo, amare and chandler are paid like all stars. Someone outside of the coach needs to take some blame for the players not getting it done on the court.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/20/2012 - 7:48pm #627143
SwatLakeCityParticipantAmare has looked lost out there. Him and Melo dont seem to gel well, just what everyone feared by the trade that brought Melo to NY. Maybe the Knicks should trade him to their neighbor for Dwill. (salaries work out) Dwill is looking for a new home with his struggling to win games. While, NY may not be winning games right now they do have the glitz, and glamour that Dwill likes. (One of the reasons why he left Utah) NY is also a few pieces away from having a winning team, a better PG than Iman Shumpert/Toney Douglas, and to a lesser extent Baron Davis. (injuries therefore the jury is still out on him this season because of it), and a more defensive coach than Mike D’Antoni who is about the other side of the ball, offense. Bringing in Chandler was nice add but this team needs more than just a roster overhaul to get better, they need a new mindset, a new focus, and that only changes with a new coach, preferrably a more defensive minded coach.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/20/2012 - 7:55pm #627148
Stevenok. ive been watching all the knicks games, and here are some things they need to suceed.
1)exactly what this post said. fire d’antoni. he is a terrible coach, the only reason he was winning in phx was cause they had steve nash in his prime, and amare stoudemire who actually was explosive back then. so FIRE d’antoni, hes not a real coach
2)the starting point guard and shooting guard are absolutely terrible. douglas/iman shumpert/ landry fields… aint cutting it. those guys are 8th, 9th guys on most teams…
3) the depth of this team is horrendous. they have no scoring off the bench, we bring in jared jeffries, and josh harrelson to try and get us points. HELL NO! they need a new bench. if they can get 3 solid bench players that would really help. make it an 8 man rotation, and thats that.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/20/2012 - 7:56pm #627149
Stevenoh and my biggest one i feel that idk howi left it off but i did biaccident. AMERE effing stoudemire. what in the world happened to this guy! hes as soft as an ice cream cone. he was practicing his jumpers a little too much over the off season, and lost some of his attacking abilities or something.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/20/2012 - 8:18pm #627156
delfamParticipantwhy don’t they just pick and roll with Amare, I mean it worked in Phoenix
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/20/2012 - 8:19pm #627154
aamir543ParticipantI usually try not to blame coaches and put it on the players, but there is no excuse for why their offense shouldn’t be putting up 115 a game. If they were getting beat 120-134, that would be a different story, but from what I have seen, their offense is terrible, it’s just Melo stoping the ball and Fields and Douglas shooting threes. Amare is now getting the ball above the Free Throw line, which is not his spot, he should be getting the ball right between the block and the free throw line, from there he can pull up or drive, but the problem is that there is no one to get him the ball from that spot.
D’Antoni needs to give an explanation for why they aren’t doing well, cause this team has no depth, defense, or scoring outside of Melo and Amare and Tyson. And Amare is not playing like an All-Star, let alone a Super-Star. They really need to get him involved and get Melo to pass the ball more do some more cutting and off ball movement, or commit to pushing the ball and becoming a fastbreak team like D’Antoni had in Phionex. And Amre has not looked the same ever since Ray Felton left, Felton is no Steve Nash, but he was playing really well in D’Antoni’s system, and we may be seeing one of the first times that out of the two teams involved in trading a superstar, the one trades the star away ends up with the better deal. Denver is 11-5 and that too without key guys that may return in Wilson Chandler, J.R. Smith, and Kenyon Martin. I don’t think that Smith and Martin will return, but Chandler is a resritced Free Agent, meaning a 4th seed Denver could get a key starter that will be on a hot streak after a season of domination in the Far East, I don’t know about you guys, but I would take that team over Dallas and the Lakers. Both Dallas and LA have seemed old and slow, and unless you have a deep old and slow team, which the Lakers don’t have, the Mavs sort of have, but not like they did last year, than the young teams like the Clips, Thunder, and Nuggets will be top contenders. My prediction is that OCK and Denver will meat in the Conference Finals, but I think OKC would win in 6, but with a team like the Denver, that has youth and depth and athleticism, they could always surprise you.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/20/2012 - 9:25pm #627219
NYK2010ParticipantAmare does look lost out there he needs to get in the paint, enough with the jumpers just take them wide open thats it. He’s had 4 good games this year if he keeps it up he’ll be on the trading block. He could be moved for Deron Williams stranger things have happened.
Offensively the Knicks don’t move around their just standing around and watching Mello.
Fields, Douglas, Mello are all capable of hitting 3’s and Amare, Chandler can finish what happened to 7 seconds or less. Shumpert has some good talent seems like he’d be a quality 6th man off the bench at SG and maybe run PG a lil later on in his career. Fields has been off since the trade last yr, maybe he should come off the bench or play less mins.
Its sucks watching former Knicks on winning teams like Billups, Curry, Darko, Gallo, Crawford, Felton, Duhon.
That Mello trade really did a number on this team. If you add Tyson Chandler to last year’s team with Felton, Gallo, Fields, Amare and Shumpert off the bench they’d be a lot better.
I wouldn’t fire D’antoni after 15 games because whoever replaces him will have the same problems. Also they’ve had him for 4 seasons, 2 of them were just cutting cap and unable to sign anyone. This season he won’t have be given much more slack I’d say another 10-15 games he gets. He does need to rip into the team, have a team meeting or something can’t keep losing to bad teams like the Bucks and Suns.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/21/2012 - 12:26am #627234
NYK2010Participant$58.044 million is what the cap would’ve been
I ran the numbers and they would’ve been able to sign Chandler easily and still had a million or 2 left.
Only big loss would’ve been Wilson Chandler and maybe they keep him if they could trade Turiaf or Mozgov for a 2nd rounder and a smaller contract.
So the team would look like this w/out other moves except signing Novak, Bibby.
PG Felton/Douglas/Bibby
SG Fields/Shumpert
SF Gallo/Bill Walker/Novak
PF Amare/Turiaf/Harrelson
C Chandler/Mozgov/Jordan
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/21/2012 - 1:17am #627235
JunkYardDogParticipantI don’t understand how you think you can build a contender in NY with a team run by D’antoni with no D….. to me it sounds so weird.
Each franchise has an history and some roots in teh way they are playing. You can’t change it all in a second and still expect you can be a real serious contender. Chandler at 15M for 4 years (whereas he’s injury prone) is a joke, the amare/melo experience is maybe good for the highlights and the box score but where are the leader, the defensive specialists, the performing role players ?
I don’t think D’antoni is the ONLY reason of that failure.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/21/2012 - 2:57am #627239
benjo34Knicks need to change something fast..that’s probbably coach..they have team which should be in the race with Heat and Buls on the East but they are loosing..so they need to fire this guy soon
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/21/2012 - 3:59am #627250
TallmanNYCParticipantInteresting to look back at what the team could have been. Felton, Gallo, and Fields playing like he used to is probably better than Melo. And that is interesting that they could have signed Chandler. Though from what I understand it was Melo who recruited Chandler so it seems without Melo Chandler would have signed elsewhere.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/21/2012 - 4:43am #627254
dolla130Participanteveryone is screaming fire the coach and yeah hes not a good defensive coah but hes one of the best offenseive coaches in the league, it was not the coach who traded 4 starters for a player who can only score who does not make his teammates better but you want them to fire D’antoni theres a reason why denver got better once he left, the fact is melo and amare cant play together and thats the real problem and thats mainly carmelos fault and if the knicks knew deron was availible they woulda traded for him then carmelo anthony
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