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  • #51180
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    So much like everyone else, I can’t wait for the NBA season to start. Too many storylines in this upcoming season should make it a great season. But then you have the Sixers, who we all know, will struggle. Winning 30 games will be a GREAT season for us. But I have been thinking if ET and Thad Young fit into the Sixers future.

    With Evan Turner, I suppose he will get the chance to be the teams leading scorer. He had a so-so season statistically last year but I was a little disappointed in his play. I want him to succeed and become a solid 18-20 ppg scorer plus a good all around player but I don’t know if it’ll be in Philly. I’m wondering what his trade value is right now and if he is likely to be moved by the deadline. We know we want Wiggins/Parker just like the rest of the bottom teams and we also want cap space for the free agent buffet so would we really want to fork over big money for ET?

    For Thad Young, I am torn. Jrue was my favorite player but Thad was a very close second. He’s one of the more unappreciated guys in the league and really is true glue guy for any team. His contract is kind of pricey but he’s been worth it. But again, I ask, do the Sixers trade him too for cap space or is he part of their big picture still too? And if you do trade him, what’s his worth?

    PS – We need OFFENSE! It’s going to be a struggle to watch our offense I believe and I don’t even care if bring some inefficient chuckers for this season but we need someone who is going to get some buckets because I dont know if ET will be doing that to be honest.

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  • #819267
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    You don’t want to win 30 games if you’re a 76ers fan, you want to be dead last and land the Wiggins sweepstakes. You guys aren’t making the playoffs this year so why not finish with the best opportunity to land a future superstar

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  • #819364
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    You don’t want to win 30 games if you’re a 76ers fan, you want to be dead last and land the Wiggins sweepstakes. You guys aren’t making the playoffs this year so why not finish with the best opportunity to land a future superstar

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  • #819275
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    I think Sixers should look to trade Turner before start of the season, the guy has been a bit of a disappointment so far and he doesn’t look like a great fit alongside new point guard MCW.

    Call me crazy but someone like Jimmer Fredette would make some sense here: Philadelphia is going to tank anyway and the Jimmer could bring some instant offense and shooting to complement MCW’s game. Turner would fit in well in a young Kings roster and he’d be a huge upgrade at SF.

    Maybe Jimmer and a protected first rounder for ET?

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    • #819291
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      The Kings already owe the Cavaliers a protected pick all the way upto 2017 so I don’t think they’d be able to add that into another trade.

      Thad Young would definitely have some value. A lot of the up and coming / near playoff teams could use a player of his skill set. If I’m the Sixers and I truly want to win the Wiggins sweepstakes, I blow it up and explore trading both Young and Turner for future 1st rounders. Even if they win Wiggins they’re a ways away from competing for a title so load up with picks and rebuild.

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      • #819297
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        oh ok didn’t know that, it’s hard to keep up with all present and future trades!

        it’s imperative for the Sixers to sign some shooting wing players in any case, esp if they plan to use Turner and MCW in the same line-up.

        Trading ET for picks/assets would appear to be best solution for Philadelphia.

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      • #819394
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        oh ok didn’t know that, it’s hard to keep up with all present and future trades!

        it’s imperative for the Sixers to sign some shooting wing players in any case, esp if they plan to use Turner and MCW in the same line-up.

        Trading ET for picks/assets would appear to be best solution for Philadelphia.

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    • #819388
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      The Kings already owe the Cavaliers a protected pick all the way upto 2017 so I don’t think they’d be able to add that into another trade.

      Thad Young would definitely have some value. A lot of the up and coming / near playoff teams could use a player of his skill set. If I’m the Sixers and I truly want to win the Wiggins sweepstakes, I blow it up and explore trading both Young and Turner for future 1st rounders. Even if they win Wiggins they’re a ways away from competing for a title so load up with picks and rebuild.

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  • #819372
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    I think Sixers should look to trade Turner before start of the season, the guy has been a bit of a disappointment so far and he doesn’t look like a great fit alongside new point guard MCW.

    Call me crazy but someone like Jimmer Fredette would make some sense here: Philadelphia is going to tank anyway and the Jimmer could bring some instant offense and shooting to complement MCW’s game. Turner would fit in well in a young Kings roster and he’d be a huge upgrade at SF.

    Maybe Jimmer and a protected first rounder for ET?

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  • #819303
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    I heard the 6ers tried to trade Turner before the draft and couldn’t get a team to bite on a first, even a late first.
    https://twitter.com/RealTylerTynes/status/350443494726307840

    That should tell you all you need to know about his value around the league.

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    • #819485
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      Shocking stuff… especially since the Raps got a 1st and two 2nds for the pasta man.

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    • #819583
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      Shocking stuff… especially since the Raps got a 1st and two 2nds for the pasta man.

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  • #819400
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    I heard the 6ers tried to trade Turner before the draft and couldn’t get a team to bite on a first, even a late first.
    https://twitter.com/RealTylerTynes/status/350443494726307840

    That should tell you all you need to know about his value around the league.

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  • #819339
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    For me it’s a good move to keep Turner and Young till trade deadline. It will be their team and if they put some work in the summer they might put some nice number and increase their trade value. Especially ET. Before Pistons acquired Billups, for me, he was a nice fit next to Brandon Knight in their backcourt to give Knight some time of the ball. There are some teams in which he could fit in nicely ( Jazz, Suns, maybe Dallas ) but as we see, his value is low now and I dont think that the 76ers will move him before the start of the season. I anticipate that something will happen before the trade deadline.

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  • #819436
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    For me it’s a good move to keep Turner and Young till trade deadline. It will be their team and if they put some work in the summer they might put some nice number and increase their trade value. Especially ET. Before Pistons acquired Billups, for me, he was a nice fit next to Brandon Knight in their backcourt to give Knight some time of the ball. There are some teams in which he could fit in nicely ( Jazz, Suns, maybe Dallas ) but as we see, his value is low now and I dont think that the 76ers will move him before the start of the season. I anticipate that something will happen before the trade deadline.

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  • #819355
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    Evan Turner’s best fit would probably be coming off the bench. But they need to trade him he is way too much like MCW and they want a top pick next year. I think he would fit next to a point guard who can really shoot. His defense isn’t bad but his shot seems like it will never be sweet.

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  • #819452
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    Evan Turner’s best fit would probably be coming off the bench. But they need to trade him he is way too much like MCW and they want a top pick next year. I think he would fit next to a point guard who can really shoot. His defense isn’t bad but his shot seems like it will never be sweet.

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  • #819460
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    Turner I don’t care if he stays or goes….but they have to keep Thad around for the rebuild. He is a high energy player who can show the young guys the right way to do things. Thad has a more trade value than Turner at this point but I think they have a good amount of assets going forward that they don’t need to deal Thad for any more draft picks or young guys…unless they get a deal that blows them out of the water.

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  • #819363
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    Turner I don’t care if he stays or goes….but they have to keep Thad around for the rebuild. He is a high energy player who can show the young guys the right way to do things. Thad has a more trade value than Turner at this point but I think they have a good amount of assets going forward that they don’t need to deal Thad for any more draft picks or young guys…unless they get a deal that blows them out of the water.

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  • #819517
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    I feel that Thad has higher trade value right now but Evan Turner should be better in a couple years. I still believe Turner could be a pretty damn good player because of his all around skill, but this season is make or break for him.

    Right now they might as well keep both because they both have the potential to make a big leap this season and show that they can be legit rebuilding pieces, but neither are good enough to push the 6ers into the playoffs and prevent them from cashing in on a strong draft class.

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  • #819419
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    I feel that Thad has higher trade value right now but Evan Turner should be better in a couple years. I still believe Turner could be a pretty damn good player because of his all around skill, but this season is make or break for him.

    Right now they might as well keep both because they both have the potential to make a big leap this season and show that they can be legit rebuilding pieces, but neither are good enough to push the 6ers into the playoffs and prevent them from cashing in on a strong draft class.

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  • #819526
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    Thad Young is much more valuable than Henderson. He shot almost 10% higher from the field and is a much better defender. Thad was one of the 10 best Power Forwards in the NBA last season. Gerald Henderson did have a good season under the radar but he wasn’t nearly as valuable as Thad Young was.

    Estimated wins added were 6.3 for Henderson and 10.2 for Young. His PER was higher and pretty much every metric stat you look at Thad Young is better than Henderson. Thad was one of 29 players in the league with more than 10 EWA’s. Both guys are underrated but Young is better and it isn’t really that close.

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  • #819429
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    Thad Young is much more valuable than Henderson. He shot almost 10% higher from the field and is a much better defender. Thad was one of the 10 best Power Forwards in the NBA last season. Gerald Henderson did have a good season under the radar but he wasn’t nearly as valuable as Thad Young was.

    Estimated wins added were 6.3 for Henderson and 10.2 for Young. His PER was higher and pretty much every metric stat you look at Thad Young is better than Henderson. Thad was one of 29 players in the league with more than 10 EWA’s. Both guys are underrated but Young is better and it isn’t really that close.

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  • #819519
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    Right now, Thad is probably worth about as much as someone like Gerald Henderson, and Turner is probably Valued at someone like Wes Mathews, just off the top of my head.

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  • #819421
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    Right now, Thad is probably worth about as much as someone like Gerald Henderson, and Turner is probably Valued at someone like Wes Mathews, just off the top of my head.

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  • #819539
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    Thaddeus Young has the most value in my eyes, as he could easily be an intergal part of a championship team. I completely agree with Witness2014 on Turner coming off of the bench. They (or any other team) should let him be the primary ball handler for the second unit. I think that would tap some of those Ohio State games he had and would really blossom from there.

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  • #819441
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    Thaddeus Young has the most value in my eyes, as he could easily be an intergal part of a championship team. I completely agree with Witness2014 on Turner coming off of the bench. They (or any other team) should let him be the primary ball handler for the second unit. I think that would tap some of those Ohio State games he had and would really blossom from there.

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    • #819516
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      The only problem with that is that he doesn’t like coming off the bench and is rarely productive when he does. He is much more effective as a starter even if he gets the same amount of minutes as a 6th man. You wouldn’t think it would faze him since he can’t shoot the ball either way but he just isn’t into the game unless he starts.

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    • #819614
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      The only problem with that is that he doesn’t like coming off the bench and is rarely productive when he does. He is much more effective as a starter even if he gets the same amount of minutes as a 6th man. You wouldn’t think it would faze him since he can’t shoot the ball either way but he just isn’t into the game unless he starts.

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  • #819568
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    I’m actually a bit surprised that Young didn’t turn up in any trade talks about the Rockets. He would be a nice fit next to Howard at 4, he is a bit small at the position but played quite well there last year. I’m not sure if Philly has any interest in Asik but I’m sure with a third team receiving Asik and sending some pick(s) to Philly, something could be worked out.

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  • #819666
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    I’m actually a bit surprised that Young didn’t turn up in any trade talks about the Rockets. He would be a nice fit next to Howard at 4, he is a bit small at the position but played quite well there last year. I’m not sure if Philly has any interest in Asik but I’m sure with a third team receiving Asik and sending some pick(s) to Philly, something could be worked out.

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