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- Posted on: Wed, 08/07/2013 - 12:14pm #51694
moximusParticipantWho would you rather have on your team? and who has the higher ceiling? thank you
0 - Posted on: Wed, 08/07/2013 - 12:27pm #831365
kotyParticipantIn my opinion these two are both future all stars and team needs definitely dictate how you answer the question. If you are looking for a big who can eventually give you 18+ points per game and be a go to offensive guy, then I think you take Kanter. He brought his scoring numbers up from 4.6 ppg to 7.2 ppg and only average two more minutes per game. He is developing and now that he is going to start and be the big man in Utah, his numbers should hit 15+ ppg. In addition he is a big time rebounder. Drummond is on the other side of the spectrum. He is a physical specimen who should be a game changer defensively and rebounds really well. He averaged almost 8 and 8 in 20 minutes per game. Its crazy to think he just turned 20 this week. So both of these guys are big time players, but if I had to chose, the potential associated with Drummond is too high to pass up
0 - Posted on: Wed, 08/07/2013 - 12:27pm #831474
kotyParticipantIn my opinion these two are both future all stars and team needs definitely dictate how you answer the question. If you are looking for a big who can eventually give you 18+ points per game and be a go to offensive guy, then I think you take Kanter. He brought his scoring numbers up from 4.6 ppg to 7.2 ppg and only average two more minutes per game. He is developing and now that he is going to start and be the big man in Utah, his numbers should hit 15+ ppg. In addition he is a big time rebounder. Drummond is on the other side of the spectrum. He is a physical specimen who should be a game changer defensively and rebounds really well. He averaged almost 8 and 8 in 20 minutes per game. Its crazy to think he just turned 20 this week. So both of these guys are big time players, but if I had to chose, the potential associated with Drummond is too high to pass up
0 - Posted on: Wed, 08/07/2013 - 12:31pm #831371
SamCarlsonParticipantI would take Drummond long term for sure. His potential is rediculous and he turns 20 on Saturday which is crazy to think about. Drummond is just such a freak to move like he does at 6’11 280. He is going to be a defensive monster as well. Just needs to continue to develop and work on making some free throws.
Having that been said I would take Kanter over Drummond for one year tho. Much more refined skill set and a much better basketball iq0 - Posted on: Wed, 08/07/2013 - 12:31pm #831480
SamCarlsonParticipantI would take Drummond long term for sure. His potential is rediculous and he turns 20 on Saturday which is crazy to think about. Drummond is just such a freak to move like he does at 6’11 280. He is going to be a defensive monster as well. Just needs to continue to develop and work on making some free throws.
Having that been said I would take Kanter over Drummond for one year tho. Much more refined skill set and a much better basketball iq0 - Posted on: Wed, 08/07/2013 - 1:26pm #831505
BasketballJunkie224Participanti would definitely take drummond…a better question wouldve been between drummond and favors..enes kanter shows signs of potential but i cannot ever picturing him putting it all together…drummond is all about his potential as well but he is someone i can see tearing it up and becoming an all star
0 - Posted on: Wed, 08/07/2013 - 1:26pm #831397
BasketballJunkie224Participanti would definitely take drummond…a better question wouldve been between drummond and favors..enes kanter shows signs of potential but i cannot ever picturing him putting it all together…drummond is all about his potential as well but he is someone i can see tearing it up and becoming an all star
0 - Posted on: Wed, 08/07/2013 - 1:45pm #831511
scliddiardParticipantGood question and tough to know,, As a Jazz fan it would be easy to just say Kanter and it’s because I’m playing favorites but Drummonds physical attributes make this very interesting and tough . To me it comes down to mental attitudes and how they play , If Drummond can develop an offensive game , with shooting touch etc , he would easily be the pick, physically he could develop to be a Shaq like player but I’m not sure he has that mentality, time will tell . Kanter has a history of being a dominate scorer, he didn’t start playing BB until he was 14 but as soon as he started playing he was a natural and was the leading scorer for his Turkey national team. Watching him with the Jazz he is fearless and has all the moves, he has a good outside shot and will just get better. His Turkey national coach was made at Corbin because he was sticking him down low and limiting his game, he said Kanter was the best shooter on the entire Turkish team. Kanter started to shoot alittle from the outside last year and this year IMO we’ll see him expand his range and game. Kanter is strong, physical and he has the skills to be a go to guy. I’ll take Kanter and not just because I’m a Jazz fan.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 08/07/2013 - 1:45pm #831403
scliddiardParticipantGood question and tough to know,, As a Jazz fan it would be easy to just say Kanter and it’s because I’m playing favorites but Drummonds physical attributes make this very interesting and tough . To me it comes down to mental attitudes and how they play , If Drummond can develop an offensive game , with shooting touch etc , he would easily be the pick, physically he could develop to be a Shaq like player but I’m not sure he has that mentality, time will tell . Kanter has a history of being a dominate scorer, he didn’t start playing BB until he was 14 but as soon as he started playing he was a natural and was the leading scorer for his Turkey national team. Watching him with the Jazz he is fearless and has all the moves, he has a good outside shot and will just get better. His Turkey national coach was made at Corbin because he was sticking him down low and limiting his game, he said Kanter was the best shooter on the entire Turkish team. Kanter started to shoot alittle from the outside last year and this year IMO we’ll see him expand his range and game. Kanter is strong, physical and he has the skills to be a go to guy. I’ll take Kanter and not just because I’m a Jazz fan.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 08/07/2013 - 2:00pm #831521
SiggyParticipantI’ll take the player with talent and skill, who looks like he knows what he’s doing over the guy with just talent. Kanter’s one of the few young bigs in this game with legit 20/10 potential.
Bigs his size with skill seem to be a rarity so I’ll go with him. He has the offensive potential to command doubles. He’ll never be the shot blocker that Drummond is but he plays with great physicality and energy. He actually had some pretty impressive defensive metrics last yr.0 - Posted on: Wed, 08/07/2013 - 2:00pm #831413
SiggyParticipantI’ll take the player with talent and skill, who looks like he knows what he’s doing over the guy with just talent. Kanter’s one of the few young bigs in this game with legit 20/10 potential.
Bigs his size with skill seem to be a rarity so I’ll go with him. He has the offensive potential to command doubles. He’ll never be the shot blocker that Drummond is but he plays with great physicality and energy. He actually had some pretty impressive defensive metrics last yr.0- Posted on: Mon, 12/02/2013 - 5:39pm #854047
Calling Out The ClownsParticipantOops
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/02/2013 - 5:39pm #853942
Calling Out The ClownsParticipantOops
0- Posted on: Mon, 12/02/2013 - 9:14pm #854091
SiggyParticipantNah, no oops yet. I still think Kanter has 20/10 potential and I don’t think Drummond does. The difference b/t Kanter and Drummond’s situation is that Detroit is committed to making Monroe/Smith/Drummond work despite obvious spacing issues. The Jazz, Ty Corbin especially since he’s trying to keep his job, sees the spacing issues with Favors/Kanter so he split them. Kanter sucks on D. Favors does not and has his extension, so Kanter gets the short end of the stick despite being the better post scorer, face up player, shooter and PnP option of the 2.
Drummond still can’t create his own offense (shooting 38% in very limited post up ops with a terrible feel and footwork), struggles with shots that aren’t dunks, can’t be entrusted to handle the ball for more than 2 seconds if he’s not in a position to finish and his defense has actually sucked this yr. At least Kanter can create his own offense and actually do stuff with the ball in his hands outside of dunk. He just might need a change of scenery because he and Favors don’t work well together. Put Kanter in a situation where his coach would just give him a ton minutes despite spacing issues, frontcourt chemistry or the performance of the team when he’s on the floor (Pistons have actually been better with Drummond off the floor) and he’d be having some monster games too like his 23/22 last yr.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/02/2013 - 9:14pm #853987
SiggyParticipantNah, no oops yet. I still think Kanter has 20/10 potential and I don’t think Drummond does. The difference b/t Kanter and Drummond’s situation is that Detroit is committed to making Monroe/Smith/Drummond work despite obvious spacing issues. The Jazz, Ty Corbin especially since he’s trying to keep his job, sees the spacing issues with Favors/Kanter so he split them. Kanter sucks on D. Favors does not and has his extension, so Kanter gets the short end of the stick despite being the better post scorer, face up player, shooter and PnP option of the 2.
Drummond still can’t create his own offense (shooting 38% in very limited post up ops with a terrible feel and footwork), struggles with shots that aren’t dunks, can’t be entrusted to handle the ball for more than 2 seconds if he’s not in a position to finish and his defense has actually sucked this yr. At least Kanter can create his own offense and actually do stuff with the ball in his hands outside of dunk. He just might need a change of scenery because he and Favors don’t work well together. Put Kanter in a situation where his coach would just give him a ton minutes despite spacing issues, frontcourt chemistry or the performance of the team when he’s on the floor (Pistons have actually been better with Drummond off the floor) and he’d be having some monster games too like his 23/22 last yr.
0- Posted on: Tue, 12/03/2013 - 6:45am #854038
HaleParticipantNot saying I disagree with you but the fact that Drummond is producing the way he is despite no spacing with Monroe/Smith is pretty impressive. Especially for a 20 year old. He’s not a go-to option but in his short time in the NBA he looks like a much improved player and can be a monster defensively. Still would help if he could like double his free throw percentage.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 12/03/2013 - 6:45am #854142
HaleParticipantNot saying I disagree with you but the fact that Drummond is producing the way he is despite no spacing with Monroe/Smith is pretty impressive. Especially for a 20 year old. He’s not a go-to option but in his short time in the NBA he looks like a much improved player and can be a monster defensively. Still would help if he could like double his free throw percentage.
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- Posted on: Wed, 08/07/2013 - 3:30pm #831533
bloodshyParticipantI love Kanter and I think he’ll develop into a 20/10 player. I think he will be an all-star more than once. His offensive touch is impressive, he’s freakishly strong and he already has several effective post moves. I can even see him becoming a stretch 4/5 and knocking down 3s with regularity (his touch is that good). Although Kanter is not exactly a “below the rim” player, he has very average lift.
Drummond’s strength is close to Kanter’s, but he has elite lift. I think he has the potential to be the absolute best defender in the NBA for a 5+ year stretch. Watching him play last year–as a very young rookie–his athleticism was so much higher than other NBA players that it was shocking. And although he has no offensive game, his insane athleticism still ensures there’s a threat on O whenever he’s near the rim. Also, his passive approach that we saw at UCONN seemed to disappear last season. I saw fire and I think Drummond falling to the Pistons will be talked about for a long time.
It’s a close call, but at this point I’d go with Drummond. I think Kanter will be an all-star, but Drummond may be more. When was the last time we saw a big with his athleticism? Drummond might be more athletic than Dwight was before the injury–and he’s bigger too. He could be a generational talent at the 5.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 08/07/2013 - 3:30pm #831425
bloodshyParticipantI love Kanter and I think he’ll develop into a 20/10 player. I think he will be an all-star more than once. His offensive touch is impressive, he’s freakishly strong and he already has several effective post moves. I can even see him becoming a stretch 4/5 and knocking down 3s with regularity (his touch is that good). Although Kanter is not exactly a “below the rim” player, he has very average lift.
Drummond’s strength is close to Kanter’s, but he has elite lift. I think he has the potential to be the absolute best defender in the NBA for a 5+ year stretch. Watching him play last year–as a very young rookie–his athleticism was so much higher than other NBA players that it was shocking. And although he has no offensive game, his insane athleticism still ensures there’s a threat on O whenever he’s near the rim. Also, his passive approach that we saw at UCONN seemed to disappear last season. I saw fire and I think Drummond falling to the Pistons will be talked about for a long time.
It’s a close call, but at this point I’d go with Drummond. I think Kanter will be an all-star, but Drummond may be more. When was the last time we saw a big with his athleticism? Drummond might be more athletic than Dwight was before the injury–and he’s bigger too. He could be a generational talent at the 5.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 08/07/2013 - 8:52pm #831491
JordanC20ParticipantKanter is more versatile and has more potential
0 - Posted on: Wed, 08/07/2013 - 8:52pm #831599
JordanC20ParticipantKanter is more versatile and has more potential
0 - Posted on: Wed, 08/07/2013 - 10:12pm #831493
TheTorontoRaptorParticipantEnes Kanter.
The reasoning behind this is that I believe that Kanter will becvome a more all around player than Drummond. Drummond may be more of a fan favorite and the more exciting player to watch, and drummond will be good, but Kanter already has the size, he is a good rebounder, good defender and his offensive game is not limited like Drummonds
0 - Posted on: Wed, 08/07/2013 - 10:12pm #831601
TheTorontoRaptorParticipantEnes Kanter.
The reasoning behind this is that I believe that Kanter will becvome a more all around player than Drummond. Drummond may be more of a fan favorite and the more exciting player to watch, and drummond will be good, but Kanter already has the size, he is a good rebounder, good defender and his offensive game is not limited like Drummonds
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GrandmamaParticipant0 - Posted on: Wed, 08/07/2013 - 10:14pm #831606
GrandmamaParticipant0 - Posted on: Thu, 08/08/2013 - 1:14am #831508
BasketballJunkie224Participantlooks like kanter wins by popular demand lol
0 - Posted on: Thu, 08/08/2013 - 1:14am #831616
BasketballJunkie224Participantlooks like kanter wins by popular demand lol
0 - Posted on: Thu, 08/08/2013 - 3:44am #831522
GronounoursParticipantWhat about Drummond vs Roger Federer, if Federer was a BB player?
What? Drummond has been compared with each and every NBA players, the pope, my mother, and my neighbor’s goldfish. I think we’re done now, we can get back to life.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 08/08/2013 - 3:44am #831630
GronounoursParticipantWhat about Drummond vs Roger Federer, if Federer was a BB player?
What? Drummond has been compared with each and every NBA players, the pope, my mother, and my neighbor’s goldfish. I think we’re done now, we can get back to life.
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