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Drafting the next Olynyk/Jokic/Porzingis type

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Drafting the next Olynyk/Jokic/Porzingis type

I know these unicorns seem very rare, but that's EXACTLY why you didn't see these guys coming.

You snooze you lose, so who are you going to snooze on in the 2016 draft?

You know there's some Jokic type out there playing for a junior team in the Adriatic League or something.

So who in this draft could bring the Olynyk Effect, and outperform draft position or make a late rise up the draft charts?

Bender is the obvious top possibility. Seems like he's been hitting his 3 point shot more lately in Apartheid Israel League (AIL)

Just as Porzingis might go #1 in a re-draft, Bender may very well be a top 2 pick in future re-drafts, or maybe even the draft itself.

A big part of what makes Olynyk and Porzingis so elite defensively is their ability to switch onto anybody 1-5. Amazingly, Dragan Bender is even more agile than Kelly and Kristaps.

Poetl is considered an old dog, even though he's only 20, but he's shown more new tricks this season than I ever thought he had in him. Poetl is a super smooth, ambidexterous scorer now, so much so that it would be foolish to sleep on his ability to develop a 3 point shot, if he doesn't have one already.

Poetl is considered a second tier prospect, but I'm not convinced that's the case. If he comes out sniping from distance in pre-draft workouts, he might move into that elite category with Ingram, Bender, and Simmons.

Poetl also shows pretty quick feet defensively, and in an NBA where the traditional center is valued less and less, Poetl's quick feet and high skill level should make him able to break that stereotype. Who's to say Poetl couldn't play a fair amount of PF?

Zimmerman is another guy with decent OE upside, as is Skal.

Who am I missing, as far as versatile centers with a 3 point or developing 3 point shot?

You know there will be some Jokic type picked in the 2nd round who will be leading his team in +/- in two years, like Jokic is doing now.


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Porzingis doesn't go number 1

Porzingis doesn't go number 1 in a re draft. Towns does.

By Olynyk effect, do you mean one stat that doesn't really tell us that much... but it's the only stat that some idiots can understand? Or do you mean, average bench player on an average team?

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Who wins head to head, Lakers

Who wins head to head, Lakers or the LA Defenders? Maybe the Sparks.

What do you know about NBA basketball? You haven't watched it in years.

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Infinitely more than you. You

Infinitely more than you.

You think you know basketball because you throw 30 pounds of shit at a wall and a gram of it sticks?

Please, if someone has no life (like you clearly don't). And you spend the majority of your &$#%#[email protected]! existence making assanine statements, casting the widest net possible and talking about every player in College basketball. You think you know something? All you do is talk about everything, because you have that much time on your hands... And then slap your pud when you are in the ball park.

Classic quanity over quality. You know nothing of basketball. You know everything of spam and trolling.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

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I make bold predictions that

I make bold predictions that come true. With a success rate that is unmatched.

Name somebody who makes more prophetic predictions about rookies and the NBA in general.

Even Aaron Harrison is playing about as well as DHustle

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Not an Olynyk fan by any

Not an Olynyk fan by any stretch of the imagination I have clue why this guy is so high on him. He must not watch him play. Towns is a monster and shouldn't be in the same sentence as Olynyk.

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Despite being viewed as a

Despite being viewed as a SG/SF, I think Ingram will end up playing plenty of minutes at PF, ala Paul George, and eventually he'll probably play some center in his 30s when he fills out to about 230. He has the length for it.

So here's the 2016 draft OE short list for now:

Ingram

Bender

Skal

Ellenson

Poetl

Rabb

Zimmerman

Sabonis

Zhou Qi

Juan Hernangomez (34% from 3 in Euro play)

Petr Cornelie (42% from 3)

Kyle Wiltjer

That's pretty good, and you know there's some 18 year old Euro who will come out of nowhere like Jokic did.

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Just a quick glance at his

Just a quick glance at his stats and highlight videos, and Kyle Wiltjer out of Olynyk's Gonzaga U looks like a Ryan Anderson.

And yet he's unranked in the nbadraft.net mock draft, and he's 60th on the Other mock draft.

6'10, 22ppg, with 45% shooting from 3 at high volume?

That's like what you would hope Skal Labia could achieve if he stayed for 4 years.

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Ryan Anderson was ranked

Ryan Anderson was ranked 150th right before he moved up and was ultimately drafted 21st in 2008.

Wiltjer weighs 236 as of last summer, while Anderson weighed 240.

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This guy Petr Cornelie looks

This guy Petr Cornelie looks like everything Skal was supposed to be. Same length, same athleticism, but an even better outside shot.

The Other draft site has him at 29th in the first round, but expect that to change.

Check out his highlights. He could rise into lottery or even top 10.

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Kelly Olynk.. The unicorn.

Kelly Olynk.. The unicorn.

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The first unicorn. This was

The first unicorn. This was made in preseason in his rookie year:

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Keep looking for your next Olynyk

How many "Olynyk Effect" players are on the top teams in the league? Let me know when an NBA champion wins from the Olynyk Effect. Until then, your team can continue looking for the next great Olynyk and my team will search to find a franchise player.

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Your GM wouldn't know an all

Your GM wouldn't know an all star if he signed one to a bargain deal and watched him outplay Bledsoe and Dragic.

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I logged in just to say that

I logged in just to say that I gave you a +1 on that. That was good.

As far as the rest of this goes, I have a crazy prediction.

Are you Skip Bayless?

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Kelly Olynyk is not a unicorn

Kelly Olynyk is not a unicorn nor is he from overseas. While I do agree that stretch 4's and stretch 5's are becoming more popular, your still going to need to have a stretch big that can make passes and also play D, Not Olynyk's game exactly. The real effect is the "Zinger Effect" but you have to watch out for those players like Bargnani as well. There is no fomula for a stretch bigman to lead you to championship but just like Golden State showed, there are many ways to win a championship. The idea of positionless basketball is bright right now and that can help big foreign players who can shoot and play outside have even bigger roles on teams. Great post I just didn't agree with Olynyk and the Zinger in the same sentence. You can give me all the stats in the world on Olynyk he just doesn't pass the eye test for me.

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Lol, somebody never watched

Lol, somebody never watched the Celtics. KO is a phenomenal passer, and his defensive rating among PF/Cs is second only to Tim Duncan among PF/Cs with more than 20 mpg.

NBA, check it out.

Olynyk has a bigger impact in 21 mpg than Drummond does in his 35ish or whatever minutes per game, and the Celtics and Pistons have similar records.

But go ahead and sleep on the 7 footer with elite defense and top 5 3 point %, just behind Steph Curry.

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KO isn't even first on his

KO isn't even first on his team in his position in assists... Sullinger is. Plus KOo isn't even top 10 in assist/turnover ratio for centers. He's a decent shooter when he's wide open which most of his looks are. for what he is, he's decent. Nothing more

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He does whatever it takes to

He does whatever it takes to win games, and can do it all, whatever's necessary. That's why his +/- is ALWAYS so ridiculously high. And his win loss record over the last 82 games is like top 4 in the league, behind the Warriors, Cavs, and maybe one other team.

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Devin Booker is the truth. At

Devin Booker is the truth. At just about 47% from deep and over 80 from the FREE THROW LINE. KO struggles from the Free throw line. If all your interested in is three point percentage then the 19 yr old in Phoenix is your guy. Also the leading Rookie scorer since he got the starting gig in place of Bledsoe. Snubbed on the Rising Stars Challenge but will be a all rookie first teamer. Bold prediction, Mic drop.

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Devin Booker doesn't draw the

Devin Booker doesn't draw the opposing PF or C out to the 3 point line so his teammates get layups.

And while being a great shooter, his defense sucks, while KO is second only to Tim Duncan among PF/Cs in defensive rating.

Dirk and Love never shot the 3 like KO is shooting it now, and neither were half the defender that KO already is.

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I think Zimmerman is

I think Zimmerman is underrated and is pretty versatile. I think he's, at the least, a lottery guy.

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Man

I registered to this website after about 10 years of reading this forum just to neg you for this first post!
Damn, your points here are higher than your IQ, "apartheid israel league"... what the hell are you talking about ?! totally moron

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