[sacphil_08Participant]

Why do all the mocks have the kings taking greg monroe? I know they are only mocks but normally (normally) mocks are predicated off of some prior knowledge by the site. Both this site and draftexpress have the kings taking monroe which makes me wonder since these sites have differed normally. I’m a kings fan and i’m completely over the soft yet highly skilled big men as the core of our front line. Those types of bigs always end up being soft (brad miller, i loved him but vlade, c webb wasnt soft but he wasnt the toughest guy you’d meet, spencer hawes etc) Our culture is changing. It appears that we are going to become more of a hard nosed team, with the addition of tyreke evans and omri casspi and jason thompson and those guys, we have a decent amount of toughness to begin with and although monroe is definitely skilled, he’s passive and soft. I’d like demarcus cousins (assuming he’s available) and if that’s not possible, wesley johnson. Basically anyone but greg monroe.

[JNixonParticipant]

Laugh now, cry later. I don’t think people understand just how good Monroe can be, even off the bat. I wouldn’t be surprised if Monroe was the 2nd best player in this draft. Monroe and Thompson can work offensively, but on D is where they’d have to have a workhorse off the bench to defend C’s to offset their defensive struggles..

[sammybuckeye13Participant]

I agree, Cousins is definitely the better fit. I wouldn’t say that Thompson is exactly tough, either…how do you think the rock solid, 6-7 Jon Brockman averaged 4 rebounds in 12.6 mpg (that’s 11.6 per 36 minutes). Thompson is definitely grittier than Hawes, but he still needs weight. I really like Monroe, I want the Jazz to draft him, but I think his numbers in college are a little inflated, because even though he averaged around 10 boards a game, that was a very small Georgetown team. Wesley Johnson, while he plays hard isn’t necessarily “tough” either (although he showed some great resiliency in playing through injuries), he’s very lanky and could never be mistaken for a PF. Al-Farouq Aminu is a little tougher, monster on the glass, but that doesn’t mean he’s necessarily a better fit. If they were to start Wes Johnson, Casspi and either Thompson or Hawes, in addition to Evans or Landry, who are tough as nails…those are 3 pretty thin guys. Pairing Cousins with Landry down low, with Evans…that alone makes a team nobody would want to mess with.

[sacphil_08Participant]

I can see you’re point mr. 6000. do you not agree he has a very passive approach? I would be enamored with him if he seemed like he were as passionate or as charismatic as demarcus cousins. I think that if he were to be in a lamar odom role (i think they are very similar except lamar odom is more mobile than monroe) where his success isn’t as essential to the team’s success then he’d flourish. Or if we had a dominant defensive presence in the middle where he isn’t leaned on to be the defensive presence then he’d be ok in that position as well. I could be wrong on monroe, but passive players normally stay that way especially if they are that way in college. I know his numbers were pretty good, but georgetown didnt have a tyreke evans that will have the ball the majority of the time

[JNixonParticipant]

I think he’s much more similar to Paul Gasol and LaMarcus Aldridge than Odom, who is much more perimeter oriented than Monroe.

And if the Kings want to be good, they will get the ball out of Evans’ hands more. No way should Evans dominate the ball the way he did last year if they want to be good. If he dominates the ball the way he did last season, but the talent that they can potentially have with Monroe, an improved Thompson, and Carl Landry and Spencer Hawes off the bench then they’ll be in the same position they’re in now. You have to be willing to change if your team wasn’t good the year before, if you’re adding talent. There’s no need for Evans to dominate the ball nearly as much if they add a Greg Monroe to the lineup. That wouldn’t be playing to fit the personnel.

[SpencerIsHawesome2Participant]

I want a tough-nosed guy just like you sacphil. I’m very curious on who we are going to draft many differnt things can happen this draft for us. Hopefully we go tough but I trust Petrie as much as any other GM so he will make the right call

[sacphil_08Participant]

I don’t know if anyone has read the article on this site about what they feel each team’s draft needs are with specific players in mind. They claim that we need a wing player to play in rhythm and mesh with tyreke who is primarily a shooter. This is true but we did invest in omri casspi and we need to give him more time to develop. I feel the more glaring need is on the frontline. The writer of the article says that cousins would be somewhat of a detriment because he will clog the lane which would hurt tyreke’s penetration. Imagine tyreke penetrating, sucking in cousins’ defender, and then dropping the ball off to cousins. Cousins is adept at finishing with contact and i can see the opposing player fouling cousins and with his great size and strength he’ll get a boatload of and 1’s. Not to mention cousins isn’t immobile. He might not be the fastest guy but he can handle a little. People forget that cousins handled the ball alot in high school and in transition opportunities last season he displayed some great handling skills for his size I definitely agree with you sammybuckeye, cousins would immediatley make us tougher and all those other players will just be compliments and it would be great. We’d be able to overpower the majority of teams giving us a major advantage so i can only hope things work out like i’d like

[kingsfan73Participant]

yeah i totally trust petrie so it will be interesting, i just dont want wesley johnson and thats pretty much it, i agree that we definitely have to go big, cousins would be perfect if still on the board but he is a major mental case, but i do think he will be the best player in this draft, what will be interesting is petrie loves foreign players, i wonder if he will trade down or if the guy from lithuania will move up so he can get him, i was really shocked that we didnt take rubio last year, but once again petrie made the right move

[sacphil_08Participant]

I agree mr 6000 that tyreke dominated the ball last season, but realistically how many other players did we have capable of creating for others outside of your simple drive and kicks? No one else was a threat to the point where they’d be double teamed so he had to dominate the ball. Definitely if we get a cousins or a Monroe then he won’t have as many touches all the time. I guess I could see Monroe being similar to gasol if he were to develop a reliable mid range jump shot like pau has. If he’s lamarcus aldridge then we’ll be In trouble having a guy that goes for 25 and 10 one night to 9 and 6 the next. I personally think aldridge is a bust because of his inconsistency. No one will be able to see what I’m talking about until portland has a healthy roster during the playoff stretch. Brandon Roy is obviously their best player but Portland won’t getti where they want because aldridge isn’t the player they want him to be. I should make a post on that shouldn’t I?

[JNixonParticipant]

Yea Evans definitely had to do what he did to give the Kings the best chance of winning. But if you add Monroe to the equation, there is no need for that him to do that as much anymore. Well, not if you want to have a better team. That’s all I’m saying.

He’s really a mix of Gasol and Aldridge. He has Aldridge’s mid-range game, footwork and rebounding but he also has Gasol’s passing/floor vision, defense, and basketball IQ. I think it’d be foolish not to pick Monroe if he falls to your lap. He has a chance to be an All-Star player.

[kobyzParticipant]

Monroe is not enough efficient player right now he need to learn to be more effective but he has big potential because his size and skills.

[JNixonParticipant]

How is he not efficient?

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