[OhCanada-Participant]

Yes Daniel Orton,and Hassan Whiteside currently being projected outside of the lottery is underrating there value.

Why?

Nowadays finding a true NBA C is becoming harder and harder and this draft has about 10 of them (if you include Zoubek, Ogilvy, and Pittman), along with another 10 PF’s who could potentially play a small Center but should not if they want to maximize there potential and production at the NBA level. Not every draft has 7 potential 1st Round true C’s and the upcoming 2 drafts may have none…

There are C’s at the “College Level” that have NBA level upside but most of them other than a couple are too short or too small to become a true NBA C unlike the 10 C’s in this draft.The only C’s that are currently on the radar for the NBA 2011 Draft or NBA 2012 Draft are…
(Keep in mind that Sullinger and Kanter are 6’9 and not true Centers).
Fab Melo
Josh Smith
Tibor Pliess (if he drops out of this draft as expected)
Jonas Valanciunas
Adrien Payne
Greg Smith
Robert Sacre
Micheal Chandler (not likely)

The only players amongst this group that are expected to enlist for the 2011 or 2012 drafts are Jonas V.,Tibor Pliess, Robert Sacre and Greg Smith (I doubt he does thou as he will need alot of polish to his game).Fab Melo, Josh Smith,and Adrien Payne will definitely need to spend time in Colliegiate programs to polish there games and shouldnt be ready until the 2013 draft.Even if Pliess and Valanciunas enlist for the draft they will most likely spend 2-4 years in Europe anyways.

So that leaves Greg Smith and Robert Sacre as potential C’s for next 2 drafts.

We all know John Wall is Projected the #1 Pick Overall.As we all know by now a Superstar PG does not necassarily lead to championships like a superstar C or a superstar SG.Every decade we see handfuls of Hall of Famer PG’s go without Championships.We also see teams with great defensive and role playing PG’s when championships, just like Derek Fisher and Rajon Rondo.So maybe aquiring a Superstar PG is a bit overrated.Also PG’s come in bunches the league is dominated by talented PG’s.

So why would a Franchise rebuilding from the bottom draft a PG as appose to a C such as Demarcus Cousins who’s only flaw is “chharacter issues” which I have not seen one bit.I believe that Demarcus Cousin’s has a great fun character what people think is stubborness and attitude is more of an edge and confidence and if Cousin’s character is bad how about Wall’s youtube dances and ignoring Coach Cal’s play calling?

Also lets see the Top Ranked PG’s for the next 2 drafts and then compare them to the top ranked C’s for the next 2 drafts.I will only list the outstanding prospects.
Jimmer Fredette
Abdul Gaddy
Malik Wayns
Kenny Boynton
Cory Higgins
Nolan Smith
Kemba Walker
Tyshawn Taylor
Mfon Udofia
Kyrie Irving
Kalin Lucas
Abdul Gaddy
Lacedarious Dunn
Josh Selby
Brandon Knight
Corey Joseph
Dion Waiters
Ryan Harrow
Joe Jackson
Kendall Marshall
Marquis Teague
Austin Rivers
Tony Wroten
Myck Kabongo

That is 25 to 8. Just to be unbiased lets say half of these players do not get drafted in 2011 or 2012 which leaves leaves 12 players to 2 a ratio of 6:1 PG’s over C’s.So in a league dominated with PG’s and not enough C’s, with a handful of capable PG’s and not many C’s coming in the next 2 drafts and a league where PG’S DONT WHEN COMPARED TO C’S.

WHY EOULD ANY SMART GM DRAFT WALL OVER COUSINS WHEN THEY CAN JUST DRAFT JOSEPH, KNIGHT, IRVING, SELBY, WALKER, OR LUCAS NEXT YEAR???

Teams that need a Center will not be able to find one in the draft until 2013 when Andre Drummond and Isaiah Austin are eligible, and Melo, smith etc. are polished.So why not take a risk on these big strong, defensive, immature, young TRUE C’s.You know you’ll be able to get a PG next year anyways but the chance of landing a true C maybe worse than the odds of winning the Draft Lottery.

[sheltwon3Participant]

The drafting of Wall is also based on reviving a franchise that has has their most popular player get into trouble. Plus Washington already has a future Center in McGee and Blatche can play center in a pinch. They can also maybe get a vet big in free agency. I will say that people downplaying the big men in the draft are not very smart though. Big men are mainly took to be a player in like 2 years or more. Marc Gasol was taken and like 2 years later he is beast. Thabeet will make evey one forget all their doubts in another year or so. He is not even expected to play starter’s minutes but he will get a least 20 =25 minutes and get tons of blocks. rebounds and give other teams fits. Also if Marc Gasol can play the 4 spot and they give up on Randolph Thabeet can start.

[OhCanada-Participant]

Wall is the perennial #1 selection to me if ive got the 1st pick I go

Turner
Cousins
Wall

[DinoRadjaParticipant]

I agree that the center position is getting harder to fill, but I don’t that means every legit (size wise) center in the draft is undervalued. Just because hes big and tall doesn’t mean he has what it takes to play in the NBA. While some of them may go on to have good or solid careers, just as many may be out of the NBA in 2 or 3 years. I fill it is needed to evaluate each one alone and not as a group.

[kanebangerParticipant]

I would draft wall over cousins all day. if you got the 1 over pick you take the sure thing not someone who has a chance to fail and conditioning problems

[FDAPO]

No…… All centers like Orton and Whiteside are highly overrated every season just for that reason…. Teams get desperate to find a big man which is why guys like this go so high without proving anything. You just hope to get lucky

[kanebangerParticipant]

I’D RATHER HAVE A DERRICK ROSE CALIBER PLAYER THAN A MICHAEL OLAWOKANDI PLAYER YA FEEL ME?

[AllDayyyParticipant]

The NBA is a guards league these days. The days of the true center are dead. I find it funny that you list 2 maybe 3 kids that probably will never contribute more than scrub minutes in the NBA as underrated. Then you say Fab Melo, Josh Smith,and Adrien Payne will have to stay in college for three years because they need time to develop, but you have Hassan Whiteside as underrated, because he is a true center. You see no flaw in this logic?

[AllDayyyParticipant]

It blows my mind that anyone would advocate picking anyone over John Wall. Did you not see him play? Do you not understand the rule changes in the NBA, that have completely made it a guards league?

[sultijay01Participant]

ha ha that’s a good one the kandi man. I will not take Orton in the top 20 he hasn’t shown me anything. I can’t believe some people are saying he is a lottery pick, this guy wasn’t even a starter. Mark my words among all the bigs on draft day he is going to fall all the way to the late first round

[PurpleMonkeyDishwasherParticipant]

John Wall will only be drafted once…. so he can’t possibly be a perrenial draft pick. Maybe “consensus” #1 pick is what you were looking for.

[PurpleMonkeyDishwasherParticipant]

Your hindsight is 20/20. You can’t sneak anything past you.

[PurpleMonkeyDishwasherParticipant]

Most centers neutralize one another… that doesn’t make a stud center less valuable….. stud centers are just harder to come by.

[AllDayyyParticipant]

When did I say a stud center isnt valuable? I dont get your post at all. Stud centers are good! Ok we agree on this. Stud centers are hard to find! Yup agree again. Most centers neutralize on another! Umm ok…dont really see that but, whatever. Explain your post? Are you saying its not a guards league, its just that centers are harder to come by, therefore it seems like that? Cuz that is wrong, the rule changes completely make it a guard leage….

[OhCanada-Participant]

All I’m saying if you read the whole post in that next year there are at least 6 players eligible to be drafted that can play the PG and have the potential to be as good as Wall or at least be a Top 10 Pick Candidate in…
Corey Joseph
Brandon Knight
Kyrie Irving
Josh Selby
Abdul Gaddy
and Dion Waiters
Thats just for next year and in the next 2 years there are no players that have the potential to play at Demarcus Cousins level.So I would go for the harder piece to find, trade down and select Cousins unless I already have a qaulity C.

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