In Defense of Divac

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In Defense of Divac

Like the mainstream media we tend to care more about posting a topic first than maybe getting it right. We get the facts right, but maybe our opinions are skewed because the emotion is still raw. As a lifelong Kings' fan I've dealt with a lot of raw emotion, but also as a Kings' fan I've learned how to cope and adapt fairly quickly.

First, I would say the majority of Sac fans (some people would say true Kings fans, but I assure you if you're following the team the last few years, you are the epitome of a true fan) are ok with the team trading Cousins. He was a heavy personality that seemed to imprison those around him. It's great to have that type of impactful presence when that person represents what you want your team to be. Remember the Jail Blazers? Once they all separated it seemed like Rasheed was the main culprit of the darkness that loomed over that team. A personality like that cannot be your superstar. I'm not saying DMC is 'Sheed, but his impact was just as negative on that front.

That being said, the response was mostly about how little the Kings got for him. That falls almost solely on the owner. Most of us have been saying they should trade him for a couple of years now. After the Malone fiasco, it appeared Cousins needed a change of scenery and it would be best for both him and the team. They likely would have gotten a much better package at that point. They waited, allowed the rest of the league time to determine they did not want DeMarcus, and got pennies on the dollar. They sold low. But at least they sold. There was no point in hanging onto that stock.

You can't get mad at Divac for the package they received when several GMs came out to say there's no way they would trade for Cousins. How often does that happen? If the deal Divac agreed to is so bad, every GM in the league should be under fire for not doing more to get Cuz, right? With limited options, and knowing you need to cut ties, what would you do?

Let's say, because you waited so long, this was the best package you could get. Nobody will offer more next year because he will have an expiring contract. Or you will have signed him to the largest contract in NBA history. He'd take up so much cap space you couldn't put too much around him. He's proven he can't win alone, so why would you pay him that? Your job is to put the best team, that will theoretically bring you the best profit, out there, so what would you do? I don't see how you don't trade him. If you let him leave for nothing and waste another year and a half, it's even worse, you'd be ridiculed for not taking this deal. Agreed?

Now, to the waiting so long part. You're a brand new GM in 2015 that just wrestled power from a horrible GM (Pete D'allesandro), and you have one of the most talented players in the world matched with the wrong coach you think/know you're going to get rid of. What do you do? Sure if you're Jerry West you can come in and can make a decision one way or the other and be ok. He may know he doesn't want Cuz and trades him quickly, or he knows he is Alpha enough to impose his will on DMC and will build around him. Either way less people will question it because he has the history he does. Divac was put in a position where there might not have been a right answer. Clearly waiting didn't work out well, but getting rid of him then would have been BALLSY after he seemed to work so well with Malone.

It seems like Divac tried to build around Cousins while hedging his bets. How easy is it to find guys that can play with DMC? Who is his perfect pairing? To me it seems like an impossible task. How would he ever be playing along side another star that came to Sac? For his sake, I hope that because he is going to NO where AD is already established he blends in better than he would have if AD had come to Sac. These things make a difference.

Ailene Voison, who is horrible, published a short interview with Divac that can be seen on the sacbee site. It might offer some insight as to what Vlade was thinking. He discusses the better offer, the agents role, and how he flip flopped. I would include the link, but it won't let me.

Vlade is the easy one to blame here, but I don't think he had a better option. Maybe he didn't play it perfectly, but I'm not sure how many people could have. Why do you think it's Vlade's fault? Who would you bet your job on that you could team with Cousins?


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Your beating a dead horse here

It doesn't matter what you say. People are just gonna say "they could've gotten more" or "he had a better deal but messed up by waiting" or "he should've waited and held out for more". This trade was a long time coming but the Maloofs and Vivek wanted to juice out every dollar they could from marketing DMC.

I've watched both games and one thing I can say is back is that Sacramento Kings spirit. Everyone seems revitalized. Mcclemore looks alot more confident. Skal and WCS are just now starting to develop. They are showing what they can and cannot do which will help Joeger develop them. Skal looks like a steal right now you coach that kid up and you've got a unicorn in Sacramento.

It's not gonna happen overnight but if they make a good run at a top 3 pick next year, get a top 10 pick and a top 16 pick this year that's a bright future along with Hield, Mcclemore, Skal, Papa and WCS. If they are lucky enough to draft a decent gaurd like Ntilikina/Fox and a forward like Tatum/Bridges then they've hit the jackpot. If those guys are out of reach I would package the picks and try to move up because they don't really need another big man in that 10-20 range and the gaurd and forward value drops in that range.

I think they are in a very good position to rebuild which is more than most NBA teams can say.

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I agree with you. We're

I agree with you. We're assuming they get to keep this years first, but that would have happened with any trade for younger talent, so that doesn't really boost this particular trade, only adds to the benefit of trading him.

It seems like they're no longer fighting for the playoff spot and will focus on growth, Skal and WCS look muchbetter and even Koufos is playing better. They need to trade Afflalo obviously, too many 2 guards. I like the way B Mac has been playing, it will be interesting to see what Gay does now that Cousins is gone. I have a feeling he wasn't a fan and would prefer this new style.

The Young (25 or younger next year): Cauley-Stein, Malachi Richardson, Buddy Hield, Papagiannis, Skal Labisierre, Bogdan Bogdanovic, Ben Mclemore, 2 1st rounders and an early 2nd round pick. That's 4 2016/17 rookies, a 2nd year player, 3 true rookies next year, a rookie that will be 25 next year with overseas experience, and Ben will be 25 next year as well. That's 10 players, maybe Papa G stays in D league.

The Vets: Evans (expiring), Rudy Gay (may opt out, would be best avail SF), Ty Lawson (expiring), Afflalo, Koufos, Collison (expiring), Temple, Tolliver, Galloway.

They'd like to keep Temple, all else is open, but they have to want quick PGs and Lawson and Collison fit that. They may be the best PGs willing to sign there. FA PGs: Hill, Teague, Holiday, Rose. Would love to use one of those picks on those you mentioned. It would fit right in with what they need.

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I think Rudy Gay opts out

I think Rudy Gay opts out then accepts the largest contract offered.

Oh yeah they traded for Bogdanovic too! That kid is good I remember someone on this site clearly stated he can really Bogdan which could help out this team big time because they don't quite have a player that can do that.

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I believe it asTRex and

I believe it asTRex and CelticsThug who always talked about how Bogdon can straight up Bogdon

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I'm not going to rip Divac,

I'm not going to rip Divac, he did what he had to do, and he got the most out of a bad situation. Listen, the Celtics were never going to make a trade for Cousins unless it was for pennies on the dollar. Ainge has even come out and said as much. I think most people just think they understand what the market is, but in reality we truly don't know ****. When we look at the names that were moved they were all big men. Plumlee, Hibbert, Noel, Ibaka, ect. ect. With guys like Terrence Jones on the waiver wire. This was a horrific year to try and trade you star big men, because this was one of the only years you were probably going to get low balled. You think NOR was going to offer the house when they could have gotten Noel for so much less? Or Okafor? The Kings just waited a year too late, that's all, but understandable considering Boogy was their star player.

Most of all I think this move shows that the Kings truly are committed to changing the culture of the team like Vlade said in his statement after the trade. Buddy Heild is a high character guy, hard worker, humble, and most of all is a very good prospect in todays NBA (reminds me of Eric Gordon a little bit). The Pelicans are still god awful, only have 3 legitimate NBA players on that roster, so you know they're going to get another lottery pick this year. Draft some good young talent, let them play, and just hope that a few guys can break out. Speaking of breaking out:

I also think it's imperrative to keep in mind that SAC has been planning for this moment for years. That's why they drafted so many big men prospect over the last couple of drafts. All they need is for one of WCS, Papagiannis, or Skal to breakout, and we will forget that Cousins even played for the Kings (though i'm still scratching my head at the Papa G pick, but then again, we all look stupid when Jokic goes late 1st.). I think removing Cousins is literally addition by subtraction in the sense where now the Kings can actually figure out what they have instead of trying to constantly appease Cousins by making terrible moves like trading for Gay, or signing Rondo.

I say all this with absolute possitivity, and I hope the owner of the Kings can realize this is good, and if he wants to be pround of his team than he has to do things some other way.

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my bigger complaint with

my bigger complaint with divac is trading backwards out of 8th pick to get georgias papagiannis at 12 despite most people thinking he was a late first roudner at best. then papagiannis went on to suck in summer league and has so far accumalted a grand total of 6 points and 5 rebounds in 4 nba games as a rookie. Divac should be skewered heavily if that pick was his idea.

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Agreed, poor asset management

Agreed, poor asset management at the very least. If I were to play devil's advocate who is the best player so far 13-22? Rhetorical, but point being it's definitely a wait-and-see class, so a little early to call it a bad pick if he turns into anything.

Also the trade with Philly that was a salary dump. . .it made sense to me at the time, if they were trying to make a playoff push. I didn't love it, but didn't think it was that horrible, until I read he could have used the stretch provision and accomplished the same thing. IF that is true, that is a HUGE blunder. They really need a salaray cap maestro if they don't already have one. I hear he is pretty bad at that aspect.

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Trading down was a good

Trading down was a good decision. Right now it seems like he is not great at assessing draft stock as he probally couldve gotten Papa where he got Richardson but he liked him and decided to roll the dice. Not lookimg good and hopefully he learned from that and starts listening to his scoutimg team because I think its obvious that was a rookie GMs mistake.

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Divac was trying to trade

Divac was trying to trade Cousins last summer, I forget whos wedding/occasion it was last year but a lot of prominent NBA guys were in Chicago for this Event Divac being one of them.. Rondo got signed by Chicago right around this time.. Divac was handcuffed to Cousins because Ranadive didn't want to open the new Arena without Cousins.. Fans were showing up for his antics and Ranadive wanted to profit off it..

Once Contract extention talk started to heat up is when Ranadive realized its time to cut him loose, The Kings wanted to keep Cousins around as long as possible without giving him the supermax..

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Buddy Hield

Sac fans, I hate to break it to you but Buddy Hield is a bust, and so is Ben McLemore. Neither of these guards is going to get the Kings very far. Too early to know if Skal is going to pan out. PapaG is a bust so far. And WCS may turn out to be the best of the whole bunch. But really, the Kings are a motley collection of D-Leaguers and young guys who have potential but have yet to develop and break out. It is going to be ugly in Sacramento for a long time unless Divac can pull off some draft day magic. Don't hold your breath on that one though.

As far as Divac catching heat for the Cousins trade, I think he was essentially just doing what Ranadive made him do. My only major criticism of Divac is telling Cousins and his agents that there was no chance the Kings would trade him, one week before the Kings traded him. He could have easily just said, well we don't have a trade in the works right now but we are listening to offers. By lying to Cousins and his agents, it really hurts Divac's credibility with other bog name players and their agents. Diva lost a lot of trust points there. Not saying he shouldn't have traded Cousins, just saying that he should have been a lot smoother about it.

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Buddy Hield

Sac fans, I hate to break it to you but Buddy Hield is a bust, and so is Ben McLemore. Neither of these guards is going to get the Kings very far. Too early to know if Skal is going to pan out. PapaG is a bust so far. And WCS may turn out to be the best of the whole bunch. But really, the Kings are a motley collection of D-Leaguers and young guys who have potential but have yet to develop and break out. It is going to be ugly in Sacramento for a long time unless Divac can pull off some draft day magic. Don't hold your breath on that one though.

As far as Divac catching heat for the Cousins trade, I think he was essentially just doing what Ranadive made him do. My only major criticism of Divac is telling Cousins and his agents that there was no chance the Kings would trade him, one week before the Kings traded him. He could have easily just said, well we don't have a trade in the works right now but we are listening to offers. By lying to Cousins and his agents, it really hurts Divac's credibility with other bog name players and their agents. Diva lost a lot of trust points there. Not saying he shouldn't have traded Cousins, just saying that he should have been a lot smoother about it.

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Buddy Hield

Sac fans, I hate to break it to you but Buddy Hield is a bust, and so is Ben McLemore. Neither of these guards is going to get the Kings very far. Too early to know if Skal is going to pan out. PapaG is a bust so far. And WCS may turn out to be the best of the whole bunch. But really, the Kings are a motley collection of D-Leaguers and young guys who have potential but have yet to develop and break out. It is going to be ugly in Sacramento for a long time unless Divac can pull off some draft day magic. Don't hold your breath on that one though.

As far as Divac catching heat for the Cousins trade, I think he was essentially just doing what Ranadive made him do. My only major criticism of Divac is telling Cousins and his agents that there was no chance the Kings would trade him, one week before the Kings traded him. He could have easily just said, well we don't have a trade in the works right now but we are listening to offers. By lying to Cousins and his agents, it really hurts Divac's credibility with other bog name players and their agents. Diva lost a lot of trust points there. Not saying he shouldn't have traded Cousins, just saying that he should have been a lot smoother about it.

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it seems because of cousins

it seems because of cousins trade they will have two top ten picks in this years draft. ( thier own by tanking, and if pelicans go on losing)

So they can basically get two of D.Smith, Tatum, Ntilikina, Markkanen.

so if they somehow get Smith and Markkanen, keep Gay in offseason.

Smith Hield Gay Markkanen WCS not bad of a rebuild if they reach their potential together.

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