Dante Exum v. Alec Burks who's better or are they the same player?

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Dante Exum v. Alec Burks who's better or are they the same player?

So according to Chad Ford's latest mock draft he has the Jazz selecting Dante Exum who slid to the 5th spot because the Magic decided to go the big man route at 4 taking Noah Vonleh and decided to pick their PG at 12 between Payton, Ennis, and LaVine (He had them taking Payton at 12, which I would agree with.

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Chad Ford then went on to say that the Jazz "need a size at the point guard position and Exum can also play off the ball with Trey Burke as well" . Whatever happened to Alec Burks? He already plays the 2 for the Jazz, and he doubled his scoring average last year playing off the bench and for an already ousted coach in Ty Corbin. (he averaged 14 pts with 2.7 asts and 3.3 boards per game in 28 minutes last year) My question to you is aren't Alec Burks and Dante Exum very similar players? Exum gets his points by driving to the basket because he is not a great outside shooter. So does Burks. Exum sees the court beautifully and is able to pass as well as drive. So can Burks, as a matter of fact he played the backup point as well as the starting 2 guard for Colorado when he was in college. Exum is 6'6 196 lbs, Burks is 6'6 211 lbs. When Burks was drafted in 2011 he was 6'6 193 lbs. So in other words Exum is built like Burks too. Wouldn't you agree that Exum and Burks are two very similar players?

So if they are that similar wouldn't it make more sense if the Jazz drafted Aaron Gordon in that situation instead and let Exum slide to the Celtics at 6? I mean Kanter struggled to play D. last year, but new coach Snyder is going to emphasize D alot. Kanter might not be able to buy into it. Gordon excells at D and uses his superior athleticism to dominate on defense. So wouldn't he be the right player for the Jazz at 5 over Exum? He adds a different element of athleticism to the frontline. The Jazz could draft Gordon and try both Favors and Gordon in the frontline as well as Favors and Kanter see which one they like best. If Favors and Gordon work out very well together, then they can explore Kanter's value by putting him on the trade block. This also allows them to go big with Burke, Hayward, Gordon, Favors, and Kanter and still bring Burks off the bench as their 6th man. While drafting Exum to me just doubles up what the Jazz already have in Alec Burks.

And the Celtics drafting Exum makes a lot of sense too. He can play the 2 guard as well as the point. (As a matter of fact I think he is actually 2 guard instead of a point guard) He's 6'6, much taller than Avery Bradley who is only 6'3 yet playing the SG position. Now with Exum, the Celtics can bring Bradley off the bench as a 6th man, and then if they decide to trade Rondo (he's no stranger to the trade block) then they have Exum who can fill in at point guard. I think this would make a lot more sense.


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No two players are the same,

No two players are the same, I definitely cannot justify saying Burks and Exum are based on measurables, I haven't seen exum play enough to say anything other than he looks good handling the ball and he is quick. I know where your coming from with Burks playing the 1 some at Colorado and being a primary ball handler but it's pre-mature. At Least wait until summer league to even start the comparisons.

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I think Burks gets way more

I think Burks gets way more PT this year with a new coach, seemed like he was in the doghouse with Ty Corbin. If Snyder thinks Hayward is a 2 like Corbin thought this year, don't know why they would take Exum with Burke at the 1 and Hayward and Burks at the 2, but if Snyder moves Hayward to the 3, which he should, the starting 2 spot is open. Yes Burks and Exum are similar players with similar skillsets; plus athletes, plus ball handlers, plus quickness, and minus shots, but Exums potential is off the charts compared to Burks. Would I take him if I was the Jazz if I was picking at 4? Yes if he fell to me, and hes gonna be better than Trey Burke will ever be, if not I would take the best player available.

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Not saying I disagree with

Not saying I disagree with anything that has been said above because I actually agree spot on. But isn't it funny how everybody just described them as very similar players, yet Exum is widely regarded as the better prospect with better potential. Which I definitely agree with, it's just funny how this stuff works. He is younger which plays a part.

I do like the Aaron Gordon pick for the Jazz. I still think Burks can be a solid 2 guard in the league if given an opportunity to play. 5 might be a little high for him but if you like your guy, you like your guy.

If it did indeed play out that way, wouldn't that be something if the Celtics and Lakers ended up having to sort through Marcus Smart, Dante Exum and Julius Randle? Couldn't work out better for those two teams.

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1 big difference

All that might be true but Exum absolutely killed the combine and matched or beat some of the elite point guards in the league like CP3 and Westbrook. His first step is rumored to be amazing. Athletically, he is far and above a superior athlete than Burks.

They might have the same height, listed weight, and wiry frame, I project Exum to carry much more weight with the shoulders he has.

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We haven't seen enough of

We haven't seen enough of Exum to have a great idea of how good he will be but those who have seen him rate him high enough that they think he has star potential, I'm not sure and so I'd hesitate to take him. I love Gordon and some say he is a reach at the 5 spot but the things I have seen make me really like him and think he has the potential to be special and what the Jazz need. Gordon brings a different game than Favors or Kanter and has the flexability to play multiple positions and guard multiple positions . We do need a point guard, either one that is better than Burke and would beat him out and make Burke the back up or at least a good quality point with size, that is why I like Clarkson alittle at the 23 spot.

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exum is more of a point then alek

I really am basing this off of what I have read about Exum but he is more of a pure point guard. I would be happy with this. I think he has a lot higher ceiling than Trey Burke. I think ultimately Trey will be an average starter or backup. I don't think he has the size to be an all star and is a bit of a liability on defense. HOpe I"m wrong, but I would take Exum who by many people believe has real star power. Sure people could be wrong, but I'd rather swing for the fence with this pick and Exum would do that for us. he gives us a legit chance at having an all star scorer. His basketball iq is higher than vonleh (who I also wouldn't mind getting), so I think its a nice pick for us.

I view this draft more about Trey Burke than Alek Burke. I hope Alek is the 2 starting for the jazz with hayward moving over or coming off the bench. This would also give Exum time to develop to the speed of the NBA.

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God I'm so glad someone has

God I'm so glad someone has the Magic passing on Exum, especially for Vonleh. Every mock draft in the world has Exum, and I just don't get it.

This guy's hype is based off a couple games that are glorified all star games. He's a big tweener without the PG skills to run a team and without the offensive game to be a scoring 2-guard. I'm not saying he couldn't be a great player, but why he's included as a potentially elite prospect doesn't make sense. Except for the fact that NBA teams can be unbelievably stupid when It comes to potential...as long as they can't see you, and can just imagine what you could be...then you'll get picked. Its why a guy like James Michael McAdoo would have been a lottery pick after a season in college.

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I don't know about any one

I don't know about any one else, but I'd rather have Dante Exum than Alec Burks. I really like both of them, really I do, I'm a die hard Jazz fan, but I just like Exum more.

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I see Burks as a monte ellis

I see Burks as a monte ellis type player on offense. He is a scorer but needs to get better at making descions and not turning the ball over. Exum is atheletic but also has a smoothness to him. I see penny hardaway. Exum also can play point and inituate the offense where burks is a scoring guard. Exum would work fine for the Jazz. In the position the Jazz are in they just need the best player. Exum if avaiable will give them more guard depth and also give them assests for a vetern trade.

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Curious

So is the consensus that you guys think Exum will be able to contribute right away (next season) ? if so at what level (starter? 6th man). Just wanted to gauge what sort of impact people think he will have?

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develop

Especially with the Jazz, unless he is more than what the hype is saying he is, I see him coming off the bench at either the 1 or 2. Not sure if he is even a 6th man in the first season for the Jazz. But I would expect by the end of the year if he is what the hype says we see him getting 20+ minutes a game and being ready to start next year. Deron Williams didn't even start for the Jazz... That's just how they roll. I see the Jazz just keeping with the Sloan type mentality, I'm not sure how much Synder will be able to (or will want to) change that. Everyone has to earn their spot. Trey Burke was a little unique this year because we really had NO OTHER OPTIONS at the point. I was very happily surprised with how well Diante Garrett played this last year but we didn't sign him until about the time Trey came back.

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