[Miko4rm206Participant]

This isn’t the era of Miami heat team led by A Lebron, D.wade, and Chris bosh.

This isn’t the Cavs team that won the finals with Kyrie and Love.

This isn’t a LeBron led Cavs team where he was trying to lead a cast of older players on his back to a championship nor is it the same team from a few days ago where there was no trust or chemistry.

This is Defintely a new era for LeBron and untill Love gets back a Era that we never seen him in before. LeBron is the Unquestioned leader of this team. Now so more than other teams in the past. And he was given 3 young talents who he could mold ( if he stays in cleveland) into really really good basketball players.

No they didn’t get Deandre Jordan. They got Larry nance Jr. Who has the same ammmount of athleticism as DJ. Who has been hungry and dying to get PT with Kuzma and Randle in L.A. He’s young and solid and wants to get better.

No they Didn’t Lou Williams they Got Jordan Clarkson who like Nance would have never reached his potential on the Lakers. Probably the most ready of the 3 to go into battle with James and try to at least reach the finals. Clarkson gets buckets.

And no they Didn’t get Paul George they Got Rodney Hood. He has thE most potential out of the 3 if LeBron decided to stay in Cleveland. That can be a pretty nasty wing duo in 2-3 years.

Dan Gilbert finally did something right. If LeBron leaves they have 3 solid picks for the future. If LeBron stays he has 3 solid prospects to keep him competing till he deciedes to retire. I think Kyrie wanting carry his own legacy really hurt LeBron. But now he gets 3 young players who are dying for the opportunity to at least show case their talent if not be great. What else can you give LeBron who has at all? Realistically.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[The GoatParticipant]

 Clarkson, Nance, Hill and Hood have been inconsistent at best and weren’t making a difference on on terrible teams. If they  couldnt start for poor teams, I can’t see how they suddenly vault Cleveland to the top of the East. It’s hype right now.

These moves are also a sign Wade and Rose are past it and due to retire. The best thing they did was get rid of these 2 and Shumpert.

I would not have traded IT, Crowder and a 1st for that return. They weren’t playing the best, but still.. the Cavs took on a lot of money and Lebron’s a big chance to leave to the Lakers now.

Look at the Cavs squad. If you take LeBron out, they are worse than Sacramento. They are! Then ask yourself this, would LeBron on the Kings be better than teams in the East? No.

Boston with Monroe are the front runners now. Will Hayward be fit in time for the Finals?

[Miko4rm206Participant]

 Although I agree they gave up on I.T too soon it was for the better. Isaiah was/Is no Kyrie. LeBron Liked Kyrie. Even after Kyrie asked for a trade, LeBron went up to Dan Gilbert and told him not to trade Kyrie he could still work things out. Dan went ahead and pulled the trade. I.t arrived to Cleveland on a short leash, not to mention he was Injured trying to get back to form and Pointing fingers at K. Love and Lebron when he wasn’t even on the team that brought the Cavs a championship.

They Shipped Out D.Rose, Wade and Frye who are passed their primes anyway.

As for Jae Crowder they had him play the PF position. The guy is only 6’6!. He is a good wing defender but he’s No Charles Barkley or Draymond green at the 4.

The Cavs got Younger, more athletic and a Willingness to Play. A rim runner in Nance, A scoring Combo guard in Clarkson and a Athletcic wing with size and range in Hood.

The previous squad before the trade was a Dead End. This squad they cut off the Dead weight and can improve. They won’t beat the warriors and might not make the eastern conference finals but they have young prospects whether if LeBron decides to stay or leave and still have Brooklyn’s Pick. 

 

 

 

 

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

 Rockets and Warriors and Celtics/Raps should have made moves. Especially after Cleveland went Full Trade Deadline Beast Mode.  

LeBron has a team now that can go out and compete for a title.  

Clarkson, Hood, LeBron, Nance Jr/TT, and Love looks well built.

Losers: besides the contender types who didn’t make a move then the Grizzlies who didn’t move Tyreke. Although if we can resign him that will work out.  

Warriors maybe didn’t need to make a move although Iggy is done and Casspi/Young aren’t guys I trust. Warriors should have tried to move Nick Young, their late late first and a future 2nd for Tyreke. Even for a rental.  IDEAL 6th man AND death lineup guys for the Warriors. Oh well. Even McCaw/28 or so/future 2nd wood have been a really good trade for BOTH teams.

[Miko4rm206Participant]

 Yea I’m very curious to see who they start. Hopefully they just Bring J.R off the bench.

I would Go

George Hill,Rodney Hood, LeBron James, 

Jeff Green/K.Love, Tristan Thompson

Maybe start Nance at the 4 but they are thin up front now much like okc.

 

 

 

 

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

 *30th pick

** would 

Then if Memphis wants a bit more Grizz also send out the veteran Chalmers with an extra second round pick and cash going to Memphis.

 

[OhCanada-Participant]

 As a Raptors fan Im not too happy about this outcome. I feel them getting rid of Crowder, Thomas, Frye, Wade, Shumpert and Rose makes them better alone. Crowder and Thomas really never fit with this team from a skills or chemistry perspective. Rose and Shump are always hurt and Wade and Frye are on thier careers last legs and they needed guys that will give 100% on D.

Obviously it would be hard to say they are the favs out East but I wouldnt count them out at all. Lebron always wins the East and I havent forgotten that.

 

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

 Yeah Raps should be mad IF they don’t get some extra assets in the buyout market.

The Cavs crashed the Trade Deadline into a mountain.

That did two things: crushed the value that "sellers" would get — turning the Grizzlies/Tyreke Evans situation into a dumpster fire. Coulda made a move! (Although they didn’t have a first rounder this year).  So the Raps coulda bought super low on Moneyball James Harden.

Too, Cavs pulled off some good trades… getting guys who should complement LeBron well. They aced it. Cavs were in a death spiral but they pulled off a stick save. Now they look like sneaky front runners for the title IF LeBron can go Full Video Game FU Beast Mode. 

Warriors and Celtics have nice teams but they don’t have the West/East locked up yet. Iggy is done, their bench is hot garbage and Dray is currently undergoing a 3-16 debacle in a dog fight against Dallas.  The team is turning into a mediocre Ted Danson/Steve Guttenberg/Tom Selleck movie aka Three Men And A Baby.

[ThenilonatorParticipant]

 Now they have 2 open roster spots, which veterans do they sign? An intriguing one is to go get bogut again, obviously last stint didn’t go to plan but I think he could really help this team. He could almost start at the 5 and play 10-15 minutes similar to what he did at the warriors towards the end. 

[CavsFan07Participant]

 I roam the Cavs forums and I can say that the extreme majority of Cavs fans are very happy about yesterday. 

The two complaints we have are a.) getting rid of Frye who was a great veteran presence and really played hard for us and b.) attaching the 1st round pick to acquire the Lakers combo.

However, let me say, as much as I love my fellow Cavs fans many of them are delusional and think it’s possible to rip people off in trades consistently. Besides the Lakers reportedly requesting a late 1st rounder for Nance, it wouldn’t shock me one bit if teams were telling us we’d have to attach an asset to get IT off our hands. Everyone around the league knew he was a disaster fit for us and was a borderline cancer (his body language was just horrible 90% of the time). Why would any team willingly help us? We’ve been to 3 straight Finals, do you really think someone was just going to hand us better talent while taking the negatives off our team for free?

We got younger, quicker, more athletic, and have loads more potential. We got rid extremely bad attitudes that were not fitting with this team while somehow keeping the BKN pick. We have a long way to go to compete against the likes of GS/HOU etc., but assuming we stay healthy I like our chances better now than I did 48 hours ago. 

 

 

 

[Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipant]

 Interesting to say the least. They had to do something and under the circumstances you could make an argument that they did the best they could. This team theoretically will have a better chance of matching up with GS or Houston in the finals.

They got younger, more athletic, and surrounded lebron with more shooting. Of course they also lost a ton of experience, gave up a draft pick and took on additional salary which could easily come back to haunt them if lebron leaves and they are forced to rebuild. For a team with legitimate finals aspirations to reshape their roster to this degree this late in the season is unprecedented. Who knows how all these pieces will mesh together in such a short period of time. This could wind up looking really smart or really dumb in a few years but at least they did something and were able to keep the Brooklyn pick.

 

[Andrew1984Participant]

I think the biggest challenge will be integrating everyone and developing chemistry, especially with Love out another six weeks. Even with Kyrie-LeBron-Love, they took some time to gel.

Until Love is back, we’re probably looking at:

Hill
Hood
LeBron
Green / Nance
Thompson

Clarkson will clarify the instant-offense-off-the-bench guy role. Korver will step in depending on matchups. JR Smith will play fewer minutes. But once they get into the playoffs, Love is back, and the rotation tightens, we’ll probably see:

Hill
Hood
LeBron
Love
Thompson

I do like the idea of going small at times with Hill-Clarkson-Hood-LeBron-Love.

Either way, I don’t think this team makes the Finals, but at least they won’t be the easy out they would have been with the status quo.

[properbreaksParticipant]

Isiah Thomas for Jordan Clarkston and Larry Nance Jr???? Think about it like this, if you heard the Celtics made this trade after the playoffs, you wouldn’t even believe it was a real deal. You’d think somebody was trolling or made up a fake rumor.

I don’t know why people are saying that it’s a good move. Never scored 17 points a game Jordan Clarkston and no moves Larry Nance for a guy who averaged 29 points last year for a team in the Conference Finals and only played for you for about 3 weeks???? I never have seen anything like it. The King of pointless drama continues with all new episodes of the Soap Opera.

It doesn’t matter what team they had to be honest, they still were going to win the East. Three years ago they didn’t even have Kyrie or Love on the team and completely waltzed thru the East. The only way that they could lose is if Lebron decided to do absolutely nothing in the playoffs. The other moves were cool, I could go with both of the other moves, but they should have gotten more for IT.

They just insured themselves of getting blown out even worst in the Finals. Your number 2 and 3 guys are Kevin Love and Jordan Clarkston???? The only hope they have is an upset of the Warriors takes place because if they meet up with them for part 4, it’s going to be really ugly. Lebron might actually walk off the court in game 3 and say we forfeit. lol

[mamadouParticipant]

 Altman did what he has to do to finish the season while thinking to the future without lebron, but i don’t get the hype of these moves, except for the addition by substraction part.

Clarkson and Nance played in the 2nd worst nba team since they are in the league, so yeah you’ll have your moments, minutes, shots.

Hood is a decent player, but he’s not a 3rd option, not reliable enough, no all around game.

Hill is a nice 3 and D off guard, a 4th option, he would have been great alongside lebron, wade and bosh, oh well in this team there’s no 29yo wade, no 26yo lebron and love is injured for weeks, when healthy he only played 28 minutes at the 5(great idea).

More than ever, lebron will have to be an incredible playmaker, if you count on Hill and Clarkson, both averaging 3 assists for their career, you’ll be disappointed.

It’s better at the 2-3-4 spots, but you still don’t have a true point or a legit C, razor thin frontcourt without love.

Small ball, no D, you’ll have to be good to great offensively, i’m not sure about that either.

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

[HitsterParticipant]

 I’ve been thinking about the Cavs’ moves and was wondering why they took both Clarkson and Hill given both are considered PGs although they can play some SG too?

Also if Lakers want to build a team for next year surely if they thought Nance and Clarkson could be good complimentary role players they would have wanted to keep them?

What will Cavs do as regards Hood next season?

Was D-Wade told he was out of rotation or asked to be moved, did LBJ not still want his friend on the team?

The Cavs have committed more salary for next year but have nothing on the cap for 2020/21 so can rebuild quickly if needed. Hill has that very nice contract for 2019/20 which is only guaranteed for $1 million but worth $18 million so would be a great trade chip if needed.

 

 

 

 

[mamadouParticipant]

They took Hill to play the 3 and D off guard role they needed in the starting 5, they took Clarkson to play the role IT could have played for them off the bench(without the ego stuff, contract year, small, injury prone).

Nance 2nd of the 3 kids from akron is also a team need and he has a nice contract "clarkson sweetener".

I was schocked by the wade trade at first, but with Hilll-Clarkson combo guards, Smith-Hood and Korver for the shooting aspect needed around lebron, wade was a bit redundant, he would have lost minutes.

On the other end, his agent died, his wife in miami and the heat lost Waiters for the season, they’re the 28th offense in the league, he could help them a bit i guess.

Lebron is gone, so Hood is a keeper, their price, his market price(matched) or his qualifying offer(UFA 2019).

They’ll have the choice to go retooling with a sign and trade for lebron or full rebuilding mode, selling their decent pieces left for short deals while collecting picks for years.

Last time lebron left there was no retooling option, with all the great players they had(mo williams, boobie gibson, varejao, 33yo jamison, 35yo anthony parker) and no first rounder.

Hill-Clarkson-Smith-Hood-Korver-Osman-Love-Nance-Thompson, a Porter, a Bamba, a Jackson, a Young or a Doncic, they’re in better shape with other potential players, picks and a big ass TPE in a sign and trade for lebron.

 

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