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Cavs hire beilein

This is an interesting move. Reportedly it’s a 5 year deal. Beilein has long been considered one of the best coaches in college ball but he’s 66 with no nba experience.

For a rebuilding team with a lot of young players to develop this makes sense on several levels. Beilein has always been one the best at finding underrecruited players and developing them into college stars and solid nba guys (Burke, levert, Wagner, Wilson, etc.). His teams regularly seem to outperform their talent level. However, doing it in college and the nba could be entirely different.

I’m slightly surprised beilein would make the leap to the nba at this point in his career, but I’m sure he has his reasons. The Cavs aren’t likely a team that will be expected to be good for a few seasons, so he should be given some leeway at first. However, with the nature of the nba coaching business, that only goes so far.

Overall thoughts on this hire?


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He'll be fired after 2-3

He'll be fired after 2-3 seasons and collect checks the following two. I'm a Michigan fan, my whole life. GREAT college coach. I don't think he has the capabilietes to deal with millionaire NBA players. Dude is 66 with no NBA exp. they'll walk all over him.

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Beilein has an excellent

Beilein has an excellent reputation for what he does offensively, and how he gets the most out of his players. I tend to believe the timing of his hiring is a reflection on the success of the Nuggets, though Cleveland thought they were getting a Beilein like offensive mind when they hired David Blatt. If one calls an offensive Princeton principled, it comes off as intiquated. If one calls it read and react, it sounds modern. Regardless, at this point in time, it makes some sense given their personnel. They have a massive extension for Kevin Love on the books, and a large one with Larry Nance Jr. Love is a natural fit for the offense. Nance used a lost season to try out more to his game. He shot the ball more and did more creating. In many ways, his bread and butter will always be as an effort worker bee, but he showed a more developed all-around game. Cedi Osman is entering the last year of his rookie deal, and setting his inconsistency aside, has the abilities to work. What his role should be is still up for debate, but he is skillful and heady enough to work. One of the concerns with Collin Sexton is that he can score, and his shooting was better than what he showed at Alabama, but does not have a great sense for the job of a point guard. In many ways, Jamal Murray had that same reputation. If the Cavs commit to a style and bring in two-way players who fit, then can be some cause for optimism. Defensively, they are still a mess, but last year they were a mess on both ends. If they draft Barrett and the offense quickly turns into my-turn-his-turn with Sexton and Barrett, then they would be wasting their time bringing in Beilein and not let him be the guy they hired.

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I attended a coach's clinic

I attended a coach's clinic in 2004 with a bunch of big name college coaches; Beilein wasn't a terribly recognizable name then, but he was by far the most interesting speaker. I then became a huge fan of West Virginia, especially when my old high school opponent Mike Gansey transferred from St. Bonaventure to play for him. The famous WV-Wake Forest game was in Cleveland, when Gansey scored 19 in the second half and OT to defeat Chris Paul, one of the best games I've ever watched, and I had WV as my champs in my bracket that year; they obviously didn't get that far, but that was just a team to fall in love with. I maintained that if Gansey didn't get the staph infections, he'd have had a Jeff Hornacek-like career.

With Gansey as the assistant GM to Koby Altman, it makes so much sense. They want to build a culture of transparency and accountability, and that is Beilein's forte. Tactically, he's always taught spacing well on offense, and discipline, not turning the ball over, and his teams have always had great defensive pressure and done a great job of limiting offensive rebounds. I'm not saying I think they'll all of a sudden become a relevant eastern conference contender in the next 2-3 years, but if they draft well and make smart roster moves, Beilein can establish philosophies and practices that will foster the growth of the incoming talent.

In the NFL, if you don't have a franchise QB, you're not going to win, and the NBA the same with regard to superstars. So if the Cavs don't end up with a superstar over the next few years, they won't accomplish much, but it won't be because of John Beilein.

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One thing I’ve always admired

One thing I’ve always admired about beilein is his ability to adapt to the roster he has around him. Some coaches are only comfortable using a particular style and will only look for players that fit that style. Beilein seems to adapt based on the strengths of the team he has, which is a quality that I think could serve him well in the nba. At West Virginia he realized he had a team of very good shooters with a big in pittsnoggle that could really stretch the floor. They played an unconventional 1-3-1 zone and nearly rode that to the final 4 one season. However, at Michigan, with different personnel he rarely used the 1-3-1 and his offensive philosophy changed dependent on the team around him.

The one major question I have about beilein is that his teams have always played at a very slow and controlled pace. They actually seemed a little too dependent on the outside shot and predictable at times over the past few seasons and prone to offensive droughts. I think he’s definitely going to have to speed things up at the next level, especially with a lead ball-handler like Sexton who thrives in the open floor. His system was always designed to get the most results out of mediocre talent (even though he was still successful when he coached some of his more talented teams at Michigan). He has never coached talent like he will in the nba (especially if they land Zion) and it will be interesting to see how he adapts to that.

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Gilbert SMH

Beilein could be a high quality and great nba head coach,but the timing of the hire seems odd and to me points to Dan Gilbert once again making decisions that supersede the front office for a "big fish" hire. Could be that things were kept quiet due to the delicate nature of hiring a college coach given recruiting classes and interfering with university prestige. None of this of course means it is not a good hire but Altman and co. primarily had already interviewed over 7 candidates with a NBA player development being their main criteria along with an affinity for analytics, as well as a coach with a balanced offensive and defensive philosophy.Based on reports Altman was centered on Jordi Fernandez as the lead candidate followed by Alex Jensen and Ime Udoka, and had just interviewed his primary candidate in Denve, as well as set up follow-up interviews and scheduled additional ones. The next day we hire Beilein.

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I disagree. John Beilein was

I disagree. John Beilein was making $3.8 million at Michigan. It might come off as weird given that he has no NBA experience, but a team can't interview him. An interview means he is looking, and a coach at the Michigan level can't be looking. Jim Harbaugh might get an NFL job, but he won't interview for one. If he is looking, and stays it hurts recruiting. It also means alums and donors look at him differently as just another mercenary, and that is more the case with a coach who didn't go to the school. This is why Calipari's name comes up, but never an interview. Same with Coach K. If Brown gets axed, maybe Jay Wright's name gets floated. None of them would interview. If I remember correctly, Brad Stevens and Billy Donovan didn't interview. Stevens was announced somewhat out of the blue, Donovan less so.

This doesn't mean Beilein is a better candidate or that the hiring process wasn't corrupted by an owner who was underwhelmed by assistants (though I don't think Ty Lue or David Blatt were chosen for name appeal). It just means that there is a different way of pursuing coaches who "aren't available."

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John Beilein is a top coach

John Beilein is a top coach but to jump to the NBA at 66 years old seems a bit strange. Maybe he thinks he can take Michigan no further and has decided to have a crack at the NBA before he retires.

He has always been a coach who can get the most out of his players without ever having huge draft prospects. The Cavs are a younger rebuilding team so hiring a guy like this does make sense, it's just how much drive and hunger might he have for the NBA at this stage in his career and at his age.

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This could work. But all they

This could work. But they gotta go strictly youth movement and the guys they bring in gotta be lacking experience and craving guidance. Clarksons gone. Maybe even Thompson. To start something from the ground up and make it work in the NBA is tough but this guy is a respectable coach that has put plenty of guys in the league. I would target Trey Burke immediatly.

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Jim Beilein > Frank Vogel

Just saying

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Is Jim his brother?

Is Jim his brother?

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Unless he can also pull on a

Unless he can also pull on a jersey and defend at an elite level, he and the Cavs will have 2 more trips to the lottery and then he'll get fired

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Ballsy move.

I like it. Shows they're thinking outside the box.

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Calling two things now...

K-love is probably moved this offseason

and

They are probaly going full youth movement...So would be surprised if they trade all vets for picks..

Give Cavs two things:
They thought a little out of box which is refreshing as som NBA head coaches are a little stale and lack imagination...

They are probably hoping for the next Brad stevens lol.

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Who on earth would want that

Who on earth would want that contract though he has like 150m owed and going to be paid almost 30m when he is 34.

I guess Cavs don't have anyone else to give money to so you can't really blame them

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When we talk about college

When we talk about college coaches coming into the NBA, it is sometimes pointed out that they have only coached younger players yet we have unproven guys stepping straight into Head coaching roles after an NBA career. Do these guys have more locker room respect than a John Beilein?

Going from being a player to being "Coach" can be a big jump and with someone like Beilein he is totally seperated in age and era from the players.

I agree that Cavs go with the youth movement and let John have a crack at moulding a young roster into shape.

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