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    joe2324
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     while I think Kyrie is a great talent who is young with lots of potential, I just don’t see how this can work in the short term with Lebron. Kyrie still DOESN’T get it.  YOU ARE THE POINT GUARD. Now, at some point in his career, he might change from a ball dominant guard to a pure point guard, but that is not happening this year. Amongst their defensive flaws, the offense looks sloppy with poor ball movement and players crashing into each other. Now, I know its still early, but I Just don’t see how this group is going to meet Lebron’s high expectations for at least another year or 2 and at the point, he might be out by 2016. What would it take to get Rondo in there? Obviously, you would have to let Kyrie go and maybe a draft pick. Now, will this turn around the season for the Cavs? Maybe not, but it puts them in a much better place with a pure point guard who can defend better than Kyrie. 

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     Kyrie and a draft pick? Please.  And just because Rondo passes more doesn’t mean he isn’t equally as ball  dominant. He just does it in a different way than Kyrie.  Rondo can be just as selfish looking to get an assist as Kyrie can to score. Lebron should have the ball in his hands… Not another PG who will take it out.

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     Kyrie and a draft pick? Please.  And just because Rondo passes more doesn’t mean he isn’t equally as ball  dominant. He just does it in a different way than Kyrie.  Rondo can be just as selfish looking to get an assist as Kyrie can to score. Lebron should have the ball in his hands… Not another PG who will take it out.

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    they will get it 2gether eventually..

    alot of people got carried away talking about the new big 3..love & irving are all stars…but you can not compare this to the situation in miami when lebron joined wade & bosh..wade had already established himself as a winner,a team player and a great competitor..and bosh & wade are much better defenders than irving & love…

    first of all coach blatt has to gain the respect of the players..veteran players quickly tune out rookie coaches when the teams starts losing…1 example is lebron shutting blatt out of the huddle during a timeout the other night…

    their problem is on the defensive end…believe it or not,but the cavs were a better defensive team last season jumping from 30th to 12th in defensive percentage after the all star break…..they have the talent to be better on the defensive end,but the players dont seem to give an extra effort…they’re late getting back in transition and slow on rotations even lebron….he should be setting the tone defensively,but he’s made several mistakes himself..when he was in miami, wade and riley werent afraid to tell him when he screwed up…coach blatt is scared to do it…and his top assistant tyrone lue is only a few years removed from being a player himself…

     

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    they will get it 2gether eventually..

    alot of people got carried away talking about the new big 3..love & irving are all stars…but you can not compare this to the situation in miami when lebron joined wade & bosh..wade had already established himself as a winner,a team player and a great competitor..and bosh & wade are much better defenders than irving & love…

    first of all coach blatt has to gain the respect of the players..veteran players quickly tune out rookie coaches when the teams starts losing…1 example is lebron shutting blatt out of the huddle during a timeout the other night…

    their problem is on the defensive end…believe it or not,but the cavs were a better defensive team last season jumping from 30th to 12th in defensive percentage after the all star break…..they have the talent to be better on the defensive end,but the players dont seem to give an extra effort…they’re late getting back in transition and slow on rotations even lebron….he should be setting the tone defensively,but he’s made several mistakes himself..when he was in miami, wade and riley werent afraid to tell him when he screwed up…coach blatt is scared to do it…and his top assistant tyrone lue is only a few years removed from being a player himself…

     

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  • #956722
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    Am I the only one who has been really impressed with Irving this year? He’s actually playing defence, he’s been totally fine with LeBron running the offence and has been efficient. Irving is certainly not the problem. 

    Cleveland’s main problem is their terrible defence (they have NO rim protection, Love and Varejao are both very bad one on one defenders and their team defence is sloppy). Often times it seems Irving and Marion are the only two players on the team playing any defence, LeBron can be great but he takes A LOT of defensive possesions off. 

    Also Kevin Love has been extremely inefficient at everything apart from the spot up threes. Is it me or does Love take more time to get to his post moves than almost any other player? He almost never battles for initial post-up position, and when he recieves the ball in a post-up situation, he usually faces up and does like 3 or 4 jabsteps before doing anything.

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  • #956860
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    Am I the only one who has been really impressed with Irving this year? He’s actually playing defence, he’s been totally fine with LeBron running the offence and has been efficient. Irving is certainly not the problem. 

    Cleveland’s main problem is their terrible defence (they have NO rim protection, Love and Varejao are both very bad one on one defenders and their team defence is sloppy). Often times it seems Irving and Marion are the only two players on the team playing any defence, LeBron can be great but he takes A LOT of defensive possesions off. 

    Also Kevin Love has been extremely inefficient at everything apart from the spot up threes. Is it me or does Love take more time to get to his post moves than almost any other player? He almost never battles for initial post-up position, and when he recieves the ball in a post-up situation, he usually faces up and does like 3 or 4 jabsteps before doing anything.

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  • #956730
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    Nope… You’re definitely not the only one. I think that kid is a STUD. His defense has been up and down, but he’s getting better. I mean, he has a few holes in his games and has to break some bad habits, but he’s only 22… He’s going to get better. He needs to be more decisive off of the dribble, but I love his aggressiveness as a scorer… Love the way he attacks the basket and gets to the line. He’s also shooting 41.5% from three-point. 

    He definitely needs to close up some holes in his game, but acting like he’s the problem is silly lol. 

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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      Stud? only 22? He has been in the league for 3 years. He is not a baby or a rookie. From what I’ve seen, I am not sold on him as a point guard.  He is averaging 4.8 assists a game playing with love and LBJ. His numbers should be closer to 7 or 8 at the min. I’d like him as a 2 guard, but not a point. Yes, his shooting percentage is very nice and that is why I’d like him as a 2. As it stands now, i’d be more comfortable with Rondo and i’d be willing to move Kyrie and a draft pick if neccessary. Rondo is a proven winner and the Cavs are in win now mode with this cast. 

       

       

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      • #956742
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        Irving has been in the league three seasons, but he’s still an extremely young player who’s been in a losing/rebuilding situation. He can still get better, close up some of the holes in his game and correct some of the bad habits he’s picked up. He’s not even close to being a finished product. I just don’t understand your logic here… 

        He’s definitely more of a scoring point guard, but he’s a good passer. He’s averaging a career low right now in assists, but it’s only been 12 games. He’s also adjusting to playing with LBJ, who’s one of the more ball dominant players in the NBA when it comes to usage, time of possession, front court touches per game, etc. It’s not like Irving isn’t passing the ball. According to the numbers, he’s passing 62.2 times per game and has 10.3 assists opportunities per game. 

        I personally don’t think Rondo would be a great fit. He’s moody, not a floor spacer and actually dominates the ball more than LBJ. Any player who requires more touches than LBJ and can’t space the floor isn’t going to be a great fit. Like I said… Irving needs to be more decisive off of the dribble, but I think he’s been better than expected playing with LBJ so far. He’s ability to shoot off of the dribble or the catch fits well with LBJ. Irving is basically shooting 47% off of the catch when it comes to either twos or threes. 

         

         

         

         

         

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      • #956880
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        Irving has been in the league three seasons, but he’s still an extremely young player who’s been in a losing/rebuilding situation. He can still get better, close up some of the holes in his game and correct some of the bad habits he’s picked up. He’s not even close to being a finished product. I just don’t understand your logic here… 

        He’s definitely more of a scoring point guard, but he’s a good passer. He’s averaging a career low right now in assists, but it’s only been 12 games. He’s also adjusting to playing with LBJ, who’s one of the more ball dominant players in the NBA when it comes to usage, time of possession, front court touches per game, etc. It’s not like Irving isn’t passing the ball. According to the numbers, he’s passing 62.2 times per game and has 10.3 assists opportunities per game. 

        I personally don’t think Rondo would be a great fit. He’s moody, not a floor spacer and actually dominates the ball more than LBJ. Any player who requires more touches than LBJ and can’t space the floor isn’t going to be a great fit. Like I said… Irving needs to be more decisive off of the dribble, but I think he’s been better than expected playing with LBJ so far. He’s ability to shoot off of the dribble or the catch fits well with LBJ. Irving is basically shooting 47% off of the catch when it comes to either twos or threes. 

         

         

         

         

         

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    • #956869
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      Stud? only 22? He has been in the league for 3 years. He is not a baby or a rookie. From what I’ve seen, I am not sold on him as a point guard.  He is averaging 4.8 assists a game playing with love and LBJ. His numbers should be closer to 7 or 8 at the min. I’d like him as a 2 guard, but not a point. Yes, his shooting percentage is very nice and that is why I’d like him as a 2. As it stands now, i’d be more comfortable with Rondo and i’d be willing to move Kyrie and a draft pick if neccessary. Rondo is a proven winner and the Cavs are in win now mode with this cast. 

       

       

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  • #956867
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    Nope… You’re definitely not the only one. I think that kid is a STUD. His defense has been up and down, but he’s getting better. I mean, he has a few holes in his games and has to break some bad habits, but he’s only 22… He’s going to get better. He needs to be more decisive off of the dribble, but I love his aggressiveness as a scorer… Love the way he attacks the basket and gets to the line. He’s also shooting 41.5% from three-point. 

    He definitely needs to close up some holes in his game, but acting like he’s the problem is silly lol. 

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #956756
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     Why does anyone think that somebody playing most of their minutes with LBJ is the PG in anything but name? 

    I personally believe that any poster that thought Chalmers and Cole were the PG’s in practice for the Heat is an idiot. The same for the ones that think Kyrie Irving is the Cavs point guard when Lbron ussually sets the table. 

     

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    • #956762
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       Irving is almost a better scorer than Lebron is right now imo… LBJ at the point forward is the way to go for the cavs this yr, but I do have a tendency to agree with the fact that Irving is better served as a 6th man.

      The biggest problem they are trying to deal with right now,is "how do we get Love into his sweetspot"

      The other major issue with them besides lackluster defense after the first 1/4 is poor efficiency from the bench on both sides of the ball.

      The org did what they "had " to do to get Kevin Love immediately,and brought in decent veterans like marion others that havent seen much pt but it looks right now that they would have been much wiser keeping the Canadians on board and bringing in Love later. Wiggins defense is better 12 games into his rookie season than 75% of the cavs current roster, Including Love and Irving. Bennett also brings alot of the same things that Love does,as long as he doesnt have to play defense.

      Regardless of theyre shortcomings having 3 of the best players in the league should at least get you a 5 seed in the first run together.

       

       

       

       

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    • #956900
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       Irving is almost a better scorer than Lebron is right now imo… LBJ at the point forward is the way to go for the cavs this yr, but I do have a tendency to agree with the fact that Irving is better served as a 6th man.

      The biggest problem they are trying to deal with right now,is "how do we get Love into his sweetspot"

      The other major issue with them besides lackluster defense after the first 1/4 is poor efficiency from the bench on both sides of the ball.

      The org did what they "had " to do to get Kevin Love immediately,and brought in decent veterans like marion others that havent seen much pt but it looks right now that they would have been much wiser keeping the Canadians on board and bringing in Love later. Wiggins defense is better 12 games into his rookie season than 75% of the cavs current roster, Including Love and Irving. Bennett also brings alot of the same things that Love does,as long as he doesnt have to play defense.

      Regardless of theyre shortcomings having 3 of the best players in the league should at least get you a 5 seed in the first run together.

       

       

       

       

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     Why does anyone think that somebody playing most of their minutes with LBJ is the PG in anything but name? 

    I personally believe that any poster that thought Chalmers and Cole were the PG’s in practice for the Heat is an idiot. The same for the ones that think Kyrie Irving is the Cavs point guard when Lbron ussually sets the table. 

     

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  • #956776
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     Irving has been great this season. Yeah he tends to over dribble, but his offense  has been needed. Also his defense  is muched improved, he locked up Parker and did a pretty decent job against  Lowry. Irving gets to much blame, his turnovers  are down from last year, while LeBron turns it over alot.

    It’s sad because  had Irving been the one to get rip and cost them the game against  the spurs everyone  would have killed him, but sense it was LeBron  it’s just fine. Irving maybe the closest  thing we have seen to Iverson,  of course  without the blazing speed, but he has that same gift to score.

     

     

     

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     Irving has been great this season. Yeah he tends to over dribble, but his offense  has been needed. Also his defense  is muched improved, he locked up Parker and did a pretty decent job against  Lowry. Irving gets to much blame, his turnovers  are down from last year, while LeBron turns it over alot.

    It’s sad because  had Irving been the one to get rip and cost them the game against  the spurs everyone  would have killed him, but sense it was LeBron  it’s just fine. Irving maybe the closest  thing we have seen to Iverson,  of course  without the blazing speed, but he has that same gift to score.

     

     

     

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  • #956780
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    The best player Irving has had to play with for 3 years was probably Jamison or Varejao. When you think about it that is crazy! So it is going to take a while to understand how to play with other guys who are just (or more) as talented then you are. They defunetely need to get Love into the game more often, but it is a work in progress. If you thought the Cavs were going to look like the finished product 11-12 games into the season then you are an idiot. 

    I have always thought defensive is a mental game in the NBA. Kyrie is playing much better defensive I thought. He just needs to keep up the defensive mindset because he has showed that he can be D.

    Also, Lebron James is fustrating to watch at the moment. Too many times he is too slow running back on defensive. He did it twise against I think it was the Wizards where a Cavs player missed the shot or he missed it and he literally just stopped and walked back while the Wizards were running the ball back. It was so strange. 

     

     

     

     

      

     

       

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    The best player Irving has had to play with for 3 years was probably Jamison or Varejao. When you think about it that is crazy! So it is going to take a while to understand how to play with other guys who are just (or more) as talented then you are. They defunetely need to get Love into the game more often, but it is a work in progress. If you thought the Cavs were going to look like the finished product 11-12 games into the season then you are an idiot. 

    I have always thought defensive is a mental game in the NBA. Kyrie is playing much better defensive I thought. He just needs to keep up the defensive mindset because he has showed that he can be D.

    Also, Lebron James is fustrating to watch at the moment. Too many times he is too slow running back on defensive. He did it twise against I think it was the Wizards where a Cavs player missed the shot or he missed it and he literally just stopped and walked back while the Wizards were running the ball back. It was so strange. 

     

     

     

     

      

     

       

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     I thought it was me. But James has been tough to watch. He talks about being a leader but his body language  is bad, his effort inconsistent, and his drama continues. I hate the fact that the media always  has to ask LeBron  about how he feels and he constantly  puts it on everybody but himself. I hate that he plays the role of gm, coach, agent, ambassador, and sometimes player of the of the cavs.

    I know LeBron is great and he can do no wrong, but let’s keep something in perspective. The reality  is if he hadn’t  run to Miami  he still wouldn’t  have a ring. He needs  to help these Young guys, not act like them, and let leave them out to dry in the media

     

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    • #956938
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      Spot on.

      Also I have notice Lebron using to many words in interviews such as “they” when talking about the young guys on the team or the team in general. It is not a good look and seriously needs to get his head screwed and should never exclude himself from needed to improve. He needs to start taking better shots, attack more, defend and have better body language, and stop turning the ball over.

      As I said again, a rough patch was expected and tough start while they work out chemistry and structure, but what I did not expect is Lebron to start the way he has.

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      Spot on.

      Also I have notice Lebron using to many words in interviews such as “they” when talking about the young guys on the team or the team in general. It is not a good look and seriously needs to get his head screwed and should never exclude himself from needed to improve. He needs to start taking better shots, attack more, defend and have better body language, and stop turning the ball over.

      As I said again, a rough patch was expected and tough start while they work out chemistry and structure, but what I did not expect is Lebron to start the way he has.

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    • #956952
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       So true man. I was literally about to make a thread on the exact same thoughts. Lebron is just beginning to piss me of this season. He thinks he’s the boss in the team and amongst the media. I really don’t know why media and casual fans alike mention everybody BUT Lebron as the reason for the Cavs struggles both on ofense and defense.

       

       And Lebron should walk his talk. He’s not doing that right now.

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       So true man. I was literally about to make a thread on the exact same thoughts. Lebron is just beginning to piss me of this season. He thinks he’s the boss in the team and amongst the media. I really don’t know why media and casual fans alike mention everybody BUT Lebron as the reason for the Cavs struggles both on ofense and defense.

       

       And Lebron should walk his talk. He’s not doing that right now.

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     I thought it was me. But James has been tough to watch. He talks about being a leader but his body language  is bad, his effort inconsistent, and his drama continues. I hate the fact that the media always  has to ask LeBron  about how he feels and he constantly  puts it on everybody but himself. I hate that he plays the role of gm, coach, agent, ambassador, and sometimes player of the of the cavs.

    I know LeBron is great and he can do no wrong, but let’s keep something in perspective. The reality  is if he hadn’t  run to Miami  he still wouldn’t  have a ring. He needs  to help these Young guys, not act like them, and let leave them out to dry in the media

     

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  • #956946
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     Remember when LeBron wrote that piece in Sports Illustrated IIRC about how he was returning to Cleveland and that it would take time for things to develop? Amazing how impatient everybody is…including Cleveland perhaps. 

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     Remember when LeBron wrote that piece in Sports Illustrated IIRC about how he was returning to Cleveland and that it would take time for things to develop? Amazing how impatient everybody is…including Cleveland perhaps. 

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  • #956966
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    Something’s really different with LeBron. His shooting is really off, down since his rookie year. Defense is not consistent. The simple chasedowns that I know he would try, hes not doing it anymore. Hes is not overly athletic too, maybe the start of physical decline. Drives he would dunk before now is just layups and hes MISSING it. Very sloppy ball-handling, I don’t know but a lot times, I mean a lot from watching this year. He keeps on fumbling the ball, while just bringing it down or making a simple shift in direction. His passes too are very careless, the bounce pass that would exactly be a steal and leads to a fastbreak. Most of all the body language, he is not leading this team with what he is doing.

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    Something’s really different with LeBron. His shooting is really off, down since his rookie year. Defense is not consistent. The simple chasedowns that I know he would try, hes not doing it anymore. Hes is not overly athletic too, maybe the start of physical decline. Drives he would dunk before now is just layups and hes MISSING it. Very sloppy ball-handling, I don’t know but a lot times, I mean a lot from watching this year. He keeps on fumbling the ball, while just bringing it down or making a simple shift in direction. His passes too are very careless, the bounce pass that would exactly be a steal and leads to a fastbreak. Most of all the body language, he is not leading this team with what he is doing.

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    It is not the offense. People are getting caught up in individual numbers, but, on the whole, the offense is not the problem. While it gets stagnant at times in the halfcourt, and it is facing many of the same problems the Heat did in 2010-11, the team is not lacking for points on the scoreboard. The problems are that Cleveland defends like a team that has 5 of the 9 guys seeing regular minutes who have never sniffed the playoffs and has a head coach who has never been on an NBA bench in any capacity prior to this season. It is entirely possible that David Blatt just needs time, but there has to be concern. The NBA season does not have a break during which Cleveland can better install a defensive vision and system, and it is asking a lot to get individuals who are no longer new to the NBA to change their ways once a season starts. Things can improve, but I think a case has to be made for why it will as opposed to just assuming it will because they are on national tv every week with a lot of guys who are in commercials.

    If you want a reason for the Cavs fan in your life to guzzle antifreeze, here are some Cavs defensive numbers so far:

    Opponent’s Points per Game- 102.7, 25th in the NBA
    Opponent’s FG%- 47.7%, 28th
    Opponent’s 2PFG%- 52.2%, 27th statistically tied
    Opponent’s FG% from 0-3 feet- 69.1%, 30th
    Opponent’s Points in the Paint per game- 42.8, 21st (per teamrankings)

    here are the 76ers:

    Opponent’s Points per Game- 105.2, 27th in the NBA
    Opponent’s FG%- 47.3%, 26th in the NBA
    Opponent’s 2PFG%- 52.2%, 27th statistically tied
    Opponent’s FG% from 0-3 feet- 68.4%, 29th
    Opponent’s Points in the Paint per game- 42.5, 20th

    and Lakers:

    Opponent’s Points per Game- 111.6, 30th in the NBA
    Opponent’s FG%- 48.7%, 29th in the NBA
    Opponent’s 2PFG%- 52.7%, 29th statistically tied
    Opponent’s FG% from 0-3 feet- 65.3%, 19th
    Opponent’s Points in the Paint per game- 45.8, 28th

    The season is not even a month old, so there are a million caveats. Still, they have losses to the Knicks at home, Jazz, and the barely getting healthy Nuggets at home. They are revealing themselves to be a squads capable of losing on any given night. It is hard to string together a ton of wins when you cannot consistently get stops. The next ten games do not look especially daunting (Orl, Wsh, Ind, Mil, @NY, @ Tor, @Brk, Tor, @OKC, and at NOP), but at least so far the defense is leaving the offense with little to no margin of error.

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    It is not the offense. People are getting caught up in individual numbers, but, on the whole, the offense is not the problem. While it gets stagnant at times in the halfcourt, and it is facing many of the same problems the Heat did in 2010-11, the team is not lacking for points on the scoreboard. The problems are that Cleveland defends like a team that has 5 of the 9 guys seeing regular minutes who have never sniffed the playoffs and has a head coach who has never been on an NBA bench in any capacity prior to this season. It is entirely possible that David Blatt just needs time, but there has to be concern. The NBA season does not have a break during which Cleveland can better install a defensive vision and system, and it is asking a lot to get individuals who are no longer new to the NBA to change their ways once a season starts. Things can improve, but I think a case has to be made for why it will as opposed to just assuming it will because they are on national tv every week with a lot of guys who are in commercials.

    If you want a reason for the Cavs fan in your life to guzzle antifreeze, here are some Cavs defensive numbers so far:

    Opponent’s Points per Game- 102.7, 25th in the NBA
    Opponent’s FG%- 47.7%, 28th
    Opponent’s 2PFG%- 52.2%, 27th statistically tied
    Opponent’s FG% from 0-3 feet- 69.1%, 30th
    Opponent’s Points in the Paint per game- 42.8, 21st (per teamrankings)

    here are the 76ers:

    Opponent’s Points per Game- 105.2, 27th in the NBA
    Opponent’s FG%- 47.3%, 26th in the NBA
    Opponent’s 2PFG%- 52.2%, 27th statistically tied
    Opponent’s FG% from 0-3 feet- 68.4%, 29th
    Opponent’s Points in the Paint per game- 42.5, 20th

    and Lakers:

    Opponent’s Points per Game- 111.6, 30th in the NBA
    Opponent’s FG%- 48.7%, 29th in the NBA
    Opponent’s 2PFG%- 52.7%, 29th statistically tied
    Opponent’s FG% from 0-3 feet- 65.3%, 19th
    Opponent’s Points in the Paint per game- 45.8, 28th

    The season is not even a month old, so there are a million caveats. Still, they have losses to the Knicks at home, Jazz, and the barely getting healthy Nuggets at home. They are revealing themselves to be a squads capable of losing on any given night. It is hard to string together a ton of wins when you cannot consistently get stops. The next ten games do not look especially daunting (Orl, Wsh, Ind, Mil, @NY, @ Tor, @Brk, Tor, @OKC, and at NOP), but at least so far the defense is leaving the offense with little to no margin of error.

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    The cavs will not win a championship without a dominant interior defensive presence and a lockdown perimeter defender under the age of 23. If you ask most people, but they do have Lebron so what do they know?

    They will get plenty of wins and probably a nice playoff run this yr,but without some upgrades in personel it will be difficult for them to win a 5-7 game series with teams as deep as toronto not to mention the likes of teams in the west that can contend.

    I would love to see them get back some of what they gave up for Love… although it may be impossible to ever completely replace the loss over time.

    First they need to trade for a player in the form of a lockdown defender like Wiggins with decent shot mechanics = Terrence Ross or to a lesser degree a defensive specialist with decent athleticism. think  kj mcdaniels.Cavs must find a true 5 and move Varejao behind Love to limit his minutes… they need a center along lines of Henson,Gobert,Dieng or Noguera to share minutes there with Tristan Thompson.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    nill650
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    The cavs will not win a championship without a dominant interior defensive presence and a lockdown perimeter defender under the age of 23. If you ask most people, but they do have Lebron so what do they know?

    They will get plenty of wins and probably a nice playoff run this yr,but without some upgrades in personel it will be difficult for them to win a 5-7 game series with teams as deep as toronto not to mention the likes of teams in the west that can contend.

    I would love to see them get back some of what they gave up for Love… although it may be impossible to ever completely replace the loss over time.

    First they need to trade for a player in the form of a lockdown defender like Wiggins with decent shot mechanics = Terrence Ross or to a lesser degree a defensive specialist with decent athleticism. think  kj mcdaniels.Cavs must find a true 5 and move Varejao behind Love to limit his minutes… they need a center along lines of Henson,Gobert,Dieng or Noguera to share minutes there with Tristan Thompson.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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