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- Posted on: Mon, 01/28/2013 - 9:24am #46043
valentinea) between shabazz muhamad, nerlens noels, cody zeller, ben mclemore?
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b) between anthony bennet, marcus smart, alex len, michael carter willaims?a) shabazz muhamad
b) alex len0 - Posted on: Mon, 01/28/2013 - 10:17am #742408
WolfRobParticipantShabazz has more bust potential then Noel? Ha
I think MCW for b! He has a lot of flaws that could be exposed in the pro game.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 01/28/2013 - 10:29am #742410
lockdownDnoels will be a defensive big, no doubt about it. hes one off the lightest bigs off his feet.
shabazz is a scorer with no handles, no passing, and no right hand. he scores from the post, threes, and transition but i don’t see how that translates to nba because he’s not big enough dominate in the post. not enough ball handling (for isolations), speed, or quickness to dominate transition game. and not enough off a good jump shooter to play spot up man. shabazz has no position, he operates like a combo-forward in college (sf/pf) with a 6’6 frame.0 - Posted on: Mon, 01/28/2013 - 10:40am #742413
Chilbert arenasParticipanta.) Noel
b.) Len0 - Posted on: Mon, 01/28/2013 - 11:12am #742418
Lebron’s HairlineParticipantMCW needs to be up here, as solid as he is he can disappear during big games and struggles to hold on to the ball with pressure on him. Bazz has character issues that teams will question and the fact he went on the #currysystem while suspended is a red flag
0 - Posted on: Mon, 01/28/2013 - 11:35am #742419
lalailaParticipanta) Cody (just absolutely nothing special for me in his game, Noel at least will defend “well” at worst, other will get it alone because of athleticism shooting)
b) MCW (sometimes i don’t imagine him as a full time PG in the NBA)0 - Posted on: Mon, 01/28/2013 - 11:38am #742421
TurnipParticipantA) Zeller. He’s not a big rebounder. He’s not a shot-blocker. He’s nothing to write home to as a defender, in general. If his offensive game even takes half a step backwards transitioning to the NBA, he’s going to have trouble contributing.
B) Smart. I keep thinking about him, and the more I do, the less I’m sure how he’s in any way better than Dominique Jones, a 4th string PG on a team that is bad at the PG position.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 01/28/2013 - 11:52am #742423
hmmmParticipantA. bazz if he’s still fat/soft and plays like a chucker, otherwise zeller
B. MCW turnover machine0- Posted on: Mon, 01/28/2013 - 12:51pm #742434
cuseflynn10ParticipantI disagree with your reasons for claiming Bazz and MCW are most likely to bust. I’m not saying they will or won’t bust, but your reasoning is off.
Bazz shoots 3% worse from the field than Ben McLemore and 2% worse from 3. So if these minuscule percentages are the difference between a chucker and an elite shooter, than I don’t know what you’re talking about. Maybe you can question Bazz’s shot selection, but from what I’ve seen, he’s played in control for the most part.
As for Zeller, I feel like he has the highest floor, but not too high of a ceiling. I think he has a well rounded, well refined game, but I don’t see anything that’s screaming superstar at me. He could start for a lot of teams and put up good numbers, and maybe make a few all star teams, but I don’t see anything more than that.
As for MCW, he’s averaging 8.9 APG, so obviously he’s going to have more turnovers than your typical college point guard. I think he’ll make a fine adjustment from college to the NBA, but I’m not sure about his ball handling at the next level. His ball security, especially on a press, needs improvement. His jumper needs improvement, and he could use a few more pounds on his frame, but other than that I don’t see why he can’t succeed at the next level.
My picks would be Noel and Len. I’m not sold on Noel offensively at the next level. He’ll get the easy buckets, but he needs to develop an inside game. As for Len, I just don’t see him being an elite player. He’s averaging 13-8 which is good in college, but how will he do when matched up against Dwight or Garnett or another NBA big. He may not bust, but I think he’ll definitely take a few years to develop before we see much contribution out of Len.
0- Posted on: Mon, 01/28/2013 - 1:07pm #742435
hmmmParticipantthe difference between bazz and mclemore offensively is mclemore’s TS% is 64.8%(!!!) while shabazz’ is 56.2%, and mclemore’s eFG% is 60%(also insane) and bazz’ is at 52.5%.
differences in percentages cannot be overstated due to being “minuscule.” a small diff is a huge deal because basketball is a game of limited possessions. as long as bazz continues to rebound well, doesn’t take dumb long twos, etc. he won’t be a bust at all.
i’ll trust that you’re not biased on the MCW front just because of your cuse AV, but if you could just say “if he turned over the ball less he’d be great in the pros” for any young PG prospect….yeah, you can’t.
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- Posted on: Mon, 01/28/2013 - 1:19pm #742439
joe2324Participantthis is such a weak and questionable draft class that I can see all of them becoming busts. Itcould be one of those years where every player in this draft is either a bust or just merely a bench player. Next years draft is a much deeper pool of talent.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 01/28/2013 - 3:54pm #742502
Tiger1313ParticipantA. Zeller
B. MCW or BennettOkay, Zeller is a good player no doubt. Maybe it is just me and let me know if I’m wrong but nothing stands out to me about his game. Will he be a good player in the NBA? Yeah probably, but I don’t see him being great(not franchise cornerstone, but great. There’s a difference) like some people say he will be.
Bennett I actually like a lot but it’s always tough with those tweeners. I’m hopeful he puts those doubts to rest. MCW like someone stated above has a lot of flaws that can get exposed at NBA level.
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