[James-Harden-13Participant]

Hansbrough or Tebow?

[L.ShapParticipant]

Tebow just does not have that kind of NFL raw talent. He knows the game but not like Hansbrough. The transition from NBA to NFL is a little bit easier.

[CordellHatleyParticipant]

I see Tim Tebow as a future star in the NFL. If Rex Grossman can lead the Chicago Bears to a Super Bowl appearance a couple of years ago he could atleast do the same. People always try to knock Tim Tebow on his lack of size. The man is 6’3″ and about 230 pounds. He has an NFL arm and is built like a Full-Back. He does not just sit there in the pocket and take hits! He scrambles and makes plays! I really do see Tebow as the Elite quaterback prospect in this years draft. Yes above Matt Stafford of Georgia and Sam Bradford of Oklahoma. Tyler Hansbrough is no slouch too. Just again we run into the same problem the quote on quote “undersized” label. Both of these players have arguably the biggest hearts, in their respective areas, in college sports. Hansbrough, if 3 inches taller, would be fighting for the top spot in this years draft. The numbers that he puts up are amazing! And the character and love for the game on and off the court is great. With that said, I do believe that Tim Tebow will have the better Career. I see a team picking Tim Tebow in the first round of this years upcoming draft. Somewhere in-between pick 15 and 25. Tyler Hansbrough I also see a similar fate in the NBA draft, somewhere in-between pick 15 and 25. But as any sports literate fan might know. Being picked late in the first round or even second round of the NFL draft. May be a little better than late round status in the NBA draft. Both players will have long careers. I just hope that the GM that drafts Tim Tebow keeps him at quaterback. It would be such a waste to see them trying to convert him to a back. That is about the stupidest idea ever. Please let Tebow develop into the Pro-Bowl quaterback that I believe that he will become….

[sb13Participant]

Tim Tebow is definitely not a future nfl star, he wont even be a first round pick, his team mate percy harvin is a way better pro prosect than he will ever be. The man knows the game, dont get me wrong. however, he does not have “it”. He has all the intangibles, however, his mechanics are horrible! In the NFL he wont be able to run around like he does in college. I’m guessing he wont even break a 4.7 time barrier at the combine (which he will have to attend since he doens’t come close to being a top pick). Some scouts dont even see him as a future QB. I haven’t heard to many scouts talk about Tim Tebow being undersized, because he is a beast! Also, his decision making at times is extremely suspect. If you watch stafford play, and then watch tebow play, you would see how behind he is in his progress as a true QB. If you want to listen to a true scout break down people position by position listen to Mike Mayock, he is amazing at breaking down players.
Also, if Hansbrough were 3 inches taller he still wont be a top 5 pick. no offense but i dont think you grasp the concept of potential, numbers aren’t as big of a deal as people think; if they were greg oden would not have been the top overall pick. Hansbrough is almost 24, he has passed the prime time of when players can improve the most. I think he can be a solid 6th or 7th man but thats about it.
once again i mean no offense, i just think either of those 2 players are good pro prospects.

[CoherentParticipant]

Tebow is underrated in my opinion. He is a winner with a great football IQ, what more could you want? His mechanics can be improved with proper teaching from nfl coaches and trainers, the things you complain about can be fixed, but having football knowledge is something you can’t teach. Although he is not a first rounder, he could be a steal in the 3rd possibly. Personally, I would take tebow over stafford any day. Matt Stafford is the next Ryan Leaf.

[CordellHatleyParticipant]

If Tim Tebow slips he will be a steal. Stafford has no mobility and is not half the pro-prospect that Matt Ryan was. Tebow is the truth! Just because he doesn’t have the physical numbers that the scouts “DROOL OVER” doesn’t mean that he does not deserve a chance a quaterback at the next level. I could name you 5 city’s with starting quaterbacks and over 75% of the backups in the league that Tim Tebow is better than. Vikings, Bills, Bears, 49ers, Lions. Should I go on? I would bet that all of these teams would draft Matt Stafford or maybe even Sam Bradford over Tim Tebow because of the combine and the numbers thing but again you can’t measure heart. You can’t measure heart for the game. Every year that the man has been in college football he has been a factor! Even when Chris Leak was the starting quaterback. I get so tired of these “Tebow Haters”. Give the man what he is due. He has and will go down as one of the best college QB’s statistically and is still in a position to add another national title. Give credit where credit is due. He will continue his legacy in the NFL. Whatever team that is patient and gives him a chance. And yes Tyler Hansbrough is past that so called “potential age” but he will provide solid minutes for any NBA roster. And I still hold fact that if Tyler Hansbrough was three inches taller he would have been a top 5 pick. Any scout knows that he just would have been a one or two year player at North Carolina. Thus not breaking all of the North Carolina records that he has. Trust me that 3rd pick in the draft would not have been Adam Morrison for Charlotte in 2006 it would have been Tyler Hansbrough staying right there in North Carolina….

[SockiParticipant]

Neither will do much in the pros. Hansbrough will be a solid 6th man at best, I don’t see Tebow ever being a starter. My vote goes to Bro.

[sb13Participant]

You talk as if heart is the only factor. the man loves to run, he has no chance of running in the nfl, there are linemen who are faster than he is. and i also dont think you understand how good nfl qb’s are! there is not 1 qb in the nfl who he is better than (right now), not 1! i think you concentrate a little to much on stats, watch some game tape of tebow then come back and talk. yes he is a good college qb, but that does not transfer to being a good nfl qb. and yes, measurables are very important, how else can you evaluate every player in an unbiased way.

[sb13Participant]

You talk as if heart is the only factor. the man loves to run, he has no chance of running in the nfl, there are linemen who are faster than he is. and i also dont think you understand how good nfl qb’s are! there is not 1 qb in the nfl who he is better than (right now), not 1! i think you concentrate a little to much on stats, watch some game tape of tebow then come back and talk. yes he is a good college qb, but that does not transfer to being a good nfl qb. and yes, measurables are very important, how else can you evaluate every player in an unbiased way.

[cdmPSU17Participant]

Do you think Hansbrough would be a more highly thought of prospect if he was black?

[Critically ThinkingParticipant]

haha thts funny. But it could be true. But then why is chase budinger thought so highly?

[ReckanizeParticipant]

Firs of all, what kind of question is that in a NBA Draft forum? And to answer it, I think Tebow will be the better pro cause Hansbrough is just a straight up bum when compared to the players he’s gonna be matched up against in the pros if he even gets there. Hansbrough is 6’9", how could he possibly contain players such as Howard, Bosh or even Amare. Tebow most likely won’t even be playing QB in the league. He’ll prolly be tried at TE and even FB.

[hooperreParticipant]

Nobody can guard Howard, Bosh, or Amare. You don’t think he can do what Anderson Varajao is doing in Cleveland? He’s only 6’10”. That’s like saying Tebow is a straight up bum because he’s not Manning, Roethlisburger, or Favre.

[CordellHatleyParticipant]

I study and watch film just as much as the next person. I do see something special in Tim Tebow. If he had Matt Staffords height we would not be having this argument. The fact that Tebow has dominated arguably the toughest conference in the NCAA every year that he has been in college just has to be taken into consideration. The SEC is not a weak conference! Let me just remind everyone on here that this all is just opinion. None of us suit up and play these guys do. We watch and scout then therefore base our opinions of these players. I may see something that others may not. You may see something that I may not. I am speaking to sb13…. I feel that Tim Tebow will be a player you may not. Lets agree to disagree. But please don’t disrespect the man. He has won a Heisman and just may win his second straight NCAA title. Just give credit where credit is due. I am just saying that you can’t place Sam Bradford or Matt Stafford in a Florida jersey and expect them to still contend for a national title. He brings more to the table than either of those quaterbacks. I hate when people get so caught up in mechanics. I seen someone else say that a coach that drafts him will fix this problem. The team trainers and positional coaches get paid for a reason. Rex Grossman was the starting quaterback for the Chicago Bears a couple of years back and he took them to the superbowl. Let me give you the physical stats on Rex Grossman. He stands about 6’1″ if that, has no mobility but has a rocket arm. Tim Tebow stands about 6’3″, can run like a full back and has a rocket arm. He will find a job in the NFL….

[bolewa]

Their both decent pro prospects, Hansbrough can shoot the 18 footer and play’s with heart, he will be a solid 10 year pro and will be an important part of championship team. But Tim Tebow will be great quarterback if given the chance remember these draft analyst didn’t even give Tom Brady a chance and he’s a hall-of-famer. I hate draft assumptions since their so many first-round busts in the NFL, don’t be the lions pick winners not talent, look at USC, people from winning programs no how to win.

[jaaniParticipant]

hes good

[sb13Participant]

CordellHatley i mean no disrespect, i just dont think he will get a chance to play qb. I really do hope he does. because its not fair, yet again it is a business. i was thinking, and with teams going to the wildcat formation i think a team like miami would love to pick him up somewhere in the second round. what do you guys think?

[tuck243Participant]

Im not going to directly insult you but you are talking nonsense. What ROCKET arm does tebow have? What have you been watching? This guy jumps to make passes… LOL… Have you ever seen him throw a tight spiral past 20 yards? If you watched games like I do (I try hard to be be unbias) you would know that Tebow left, Tebow right wont work in the NFL. You give Tebow so much credit. What about the coach? Look what he did for Alex Smith, made a bum an overrated #1 pick bum. Meaning its the system. Since Tebow is not as fast as a Vick or a Young, his passing ability is much needed. Tyler is a hard case to make. I feel that he has the physical tools to play in the NBA, a star? IDK about that 1. I feel that he is by far a better player than McHale’s love Kevin Love (who by the way is the same height). Its just the sloppyness of his game that worries me. He is to old and experienced not to have a better post game.

[CordellHatleyParticipant]

I respect and understand everything that you all are saying but I really do believe in Tim Tebow. Tuck243 makes an interesting point about the system that the coach at Florida does for the Quarterback. Yes he did turn an unproven pro, Alex Smith, into the top overall pick in the NFL Draft. But I do feel that there are really not that many similarities between Tim Tebow and Alex Smith. If you all remember that draft it was between Alex Smith and Aaron Rodgers for the number one pick that year. I personally was surprised that the 49ers picked Alex over Aaron. As we all watched that day Aaron dropped to a great situation in Green Bay. The only reason that Smith was drafted ahead of Aaron was his “Athleticism” and that seems to have been the wrong decision. Now look at there careers. Tim Tebow is not Alex Smith! He has been on the radar for years. I remember vividly watching a high school game on ESPN of his. With that said, he will not be the first or maybe even the second Quarterback taken in this years draft. But I am just saying that if Tebow was in any draft in the past 10 years for any GM he would be an intriguing prospect! I just feel that he will be able to prove his doubters wrong. The one thing thateverybody can agree on is that Tim Tebow is an NFL player! And yes Howard, Amare, Bosh and all the other athletic big men in the league are going to dominate Tyler Hansbrough in the pros. But that doesn’t mean that he will not have a good career. People please be nice….

[sc0rebuckets11Participant]

tebow.. but he wont play quarterback. Unless there’s a team that thinks he can. I’m not sure tho, because almost every team in the NFL is using that wildcat offense, which seems to be a perfect fit for him. But he will end up being a TE or H back.. He’ll only be good in the pros if he goes with this transition.

[CoherentParticipant]

If Tebow has a good game against Oklahoma, that will prove to me he isn’t a bust, having football knowledge is something you can not teach, like I said he shouldn’t be a first rounder, but look at Brady, mechanics were a weakness in college, but he had good knowledge and made the right throws. I’m not saying Tebow is Brady by any means, but you can’t say he won’t have success. The only thing about Tebow that scares me is that the offense he played in college will not be their in the pros, the option run is where he got most of his rushing yards, Tebow is not a runner by nature I feel. He reminds me a lot of Travaris Jackson, who isn’t great, but he is a starter lol. Their is hope for Tebow

[delfamParticipant]

 what Hansbrough?

[butidonthavemoney]

Who are these people?!

[ProudGrandpaParticipant]

Why’d you dig up this old "thread"?  It’s older’n me, hee hee hee.

 

But Hansbrough is a beast for my Pacers.  Too bad he takes away minutes from Josh "Superbeast" McRoberts.

[HaleParticipant]

I think this was before your time here. Back when James Harden13, Don, tuck and Auber were around.

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