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- Posted on: Sun, 03/18/2012 - 6:44am #37478
WizardofOzParticipantHate to say this but anthony davis reminds me of Javale McGee to a T. Same slow lateral footspeed, same long uncoordinated steps with good straight line speed. Same broad shoulders with absolutely no lower body strength, same exceptional wingspan and weak side shot blocker. If the Wizards wanted Anthony Davis so bad, we should have forked up 14 mill for McGee. Anthony Davis has the exact same physical tools and shortfalls as McGee. Both have the body types of Tayshaun Prince with no hope of ever being a physical dominant force in the paint. Anthony Davis is basically a weak side shot blocker with no hope of ever being a dominant post presence because he has slow uncoordinated feet and no natural lower body mass to fight for positon on the block.
He is not a tier one prospect. There are no tier one prospects in this draft. Only guy I like for wizards is maybe Robinson but he doesn’t have a great wingspan. I do like his motor and body type for a power forward.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/18/2012 - 7:03am #648585
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0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/18/2012 - 7:06am #648583
providencefriars1ParticipantHow about Davis’s ability to score and shoot spot up jumpshots? McGee certaintly cant do either of those things. I feel like you are throwing out a lot of parts of Davis’s game for sake of a comparison.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/18/2012 - 7:07am #648584
seniokasParticipantAt some point there is a bit of truth in your thoughts but very little. But I will say this. It’s not his uncoordinated steps, slow lateral footspeed or his lack of lower body strength that make McGee bad player it’s his IQ. You can have the best physical atributes in the world but if you don’t know how to use it you won’t have any success.
My point is that Davis definitely has few flaws in his game but Hey everyone has them and if such a young prospect that has been playing in his position for only second year is already such a good player than I can only imagine how good will he be in the future.
A bit of off-topic but I personally still feel that Barnes will be the best player of this class. I believe that the type of basketball that is played in the NCAA doesn’t let him reveal some of his strengths and UNC’s system also isn’t the best for wing players such as Barnes. I feel that he will have a very very successful rookie season. Although, I would love to see him more aggresive and be a little bit less inteligent and more competitive on the court, while I do not doubt his competitivness and willingness to work as hard as possible of the court
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/18/2012 - 7:26am #648591
HadzialijagicParticipantJavale McGee is the absolute worst case scenario for Anthony Davis. Davis is alread a smarter player by a lot and more skilled. People dont realize how freakishly athletic Davis is. He still hasnt figured out it himself. Davis is without a doubt the quickest most nimble big man prospect ive seen. He has got incredible length and from what ive heard hes a hard worker that will continue to improve.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/18/2012 - 7:29am #648594
TheArtistPaysthePriceParticipanthe would seem to fit the same tangibles as McGee yet gets paid 14 million and many teams would have been happy to do so. Davis and McGee was do have some similar qualities but all 6’11 to 7 foot athletic guys that weigh less than 220lbs. fit that bill. Davis has shown some basic skill sets that will presumably only grow at the next level. He hasnt handled the ball nearly enough at Kentucky, something that he will show off eventually at the next level. He is a willing passer that can improve, the same for his jump shot which already trumps McGee’s who is 4 years older. McGee is useless 7 feet outside of the paint, as a passing threat or shooter.If McGee ever reaches his potential, which is Tyson Chandler with a hook shot, that pails in comparison with Anthony Davis turning into a better shot blocking, slightly less offensively skilled Kevin Garnet.
I like T-Rob for the Wiz also, only if they lose out on Davis, Barnes and Drummond though. Him and Nene in two years would be a tough though undersized frontcourt. The Wiz need to get character guys in there.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/18/2012 - 7:29am #648599
FastAndFuriousParticipantI think people are too harsh on Javale McGee, if his IQ wasn’t so low you probably have a guy who could be an All-Star he has MONSTER games when everything is clicking, and his athleticism at 7’0 is nothing short of breathtaking, he’s just dumb as rocks, and i don’t think he’ll ever reach his potential.
As for Davis IDK, I think he is a awesome college player and I think he is POY.
While he is long, he is still only 6’9 at the end of the day and weighs 100 pounds, so I will wait to see what his outcome is.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/18/2012 - 7:31am #648604
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0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/18/2012 - 7:35am #648602
TomShoeParticipantI agree about some of their similarities, but Davis can score and isn’t a knucklehead.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/18/2012 - 7:35am #648611
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0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/18/2012 - 7:37am #648606
HadzialijagicParticipantI like Harrison Barnes as a prospect. His scoring doesnt look that special but when you take into context that he only plays 28 minutes a game they look a lot better. I feel like he can be an old school type 3 man who will get the ball on the block and just shoot over the top of defenders.I dont like the Luol Deng comparisons as he isnt the defender Deng is but i feel he will have a more refined offensive game. Paul Pierce one isnt good either as Pierce is a slow footed 6’6 SF that can handle and shoot off the dribble while Barnes is an athletic 6’8 SF that can hit shots just struggles to score off the dribble. I just wonder if he will still be make contested jump shots over bigger defenders in the nba.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/18/2012 - 7:37am #648615
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0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/18/2012 - 7:50am #648618
FastAndFuriousParticipantMan IDK his weight is a concern to me did you see Royce White bang his frame in yesterday!???
Just think what real NBA Big Men will do.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/18/2012 - 7:50am #648617
TomShoeParticipantI’m a little concerned about his weight, that he might be bullied on the block with smaller guys, but his long reach, and his ability to play the 4 should make these non-issues.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/18/2012 - 8:07am #648625
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantAnd once again, WizardofOz, when negative feedback comes, you disappear.
Back up your sh!t bro… This is just ridiculous. Anthony Davis compared to JaVale McGee? You’re talking about a kid that does not have a single post move to his name and comparing him with a 19 year old with more post moves than him.0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/18/2012 - 8:13am #648630
HaleParticipantWhat happened? The last 10 or so threads you’ve started have all been incredibly quite stupid.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/18/2012 - 8:17am #648634
sheltwon3ParticipantAnthony Davis could also = Chris Bosh with more handles or Larry Sanders. There are a lot of smallish big men that you can compare Davis too. I think McGee is a worst case scenario to Davis and that is a compliment because, McGee basketball IQ is what hurts him.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/18/2012 - 8:19am #648636
apb540ParticipantI don’t see these similarities at all. I’m a bit biased cuz Davis has really really grown on me but JaVale McGee?? They won’t even play the same position (for most parts of games at least).
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/18/2012 - 8:21am #648643
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0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/18/2012 - 8:22am #648639
TomShoeParticipantDavis is much more like a Marcus Camby that can shoot.
Camby also underwent an 8 inch growth spurt, but he never learned how to score.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/18/2012 - 8:23am #648644
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0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/18/2012 - 8:25am #648646
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0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/18/2012 - 8:32am #648650
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0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/18/2012 - 8:36am #648651
butidonthavemoney…
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/18/2012 - 8:42am #648656
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0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/18/2012 - 8:53am #648659
apb540ParticipantNo you aren’t but you are the only one littering this thread with a bunch of posts that could all be combined into one or two.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/18/2012 - 9:04am #648662
aamir543ParticipantJust because they have similar builds doesn’t mean that they will both end up being the same type of player. Davis has a much better motor and has much better handles. He can handle the ball and lead a fast break like Anthony Randolph can, plus he can knock down the midrange jumper as well as work in the post. I see him more in a Kevin Garnett mold, not nearly as strong as KG was, or as good defenisvely, but the similarities are there. Davis also has a nice post game, he’ll continue to work on it, and he could be very valuable as a point foward type.
McGee is a freakishly athletic Center with zero offensive skills and is an average rebounder for his size. He is a decent defender, and his blocks come as a result of his athleticism. He has potential, but has to work a lot on his offensive game.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/18/2012 - 9:30am #648670
doubledribblerParticipantI think if a team wants to maximize what he will be able to do then he needs to become a 3/4. He has some guard skills from when he was smaller, has a good iq and could play perimeter and interior d. Like some other people have mentioned, I don’t think he will be strong enough to be a center or live in the post. Maybe you can get away with it in the current nba, but I think it will limit him. I see him as having the potential of being a better version of Andre Kirilenko if he becomes a 3/4. I don’t see him as an elite player, but as a guy that could definitely be a strong contributor to good teams and there is nothing wrong with that. To be honest, I really don’t see any guys in this draft that I’m thinking, man this guy is going to be an absolute beast at the next level, but I think Davis would be the best choice for any of these teams moving forward. Enough skill, smarts with a good upside that he should have a pretty good career.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/18/2012 - 9:34am #648671
Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant^
Wait, you want him to be a small forward in the NBA?
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/18/2012 - 9:52am #648676
B-ball fanParticipantHe is far from uncoordinated and slow-footed. I don’t know what you’re seeing in him WizardofOz. I am not sure I can name a single player in the college or NBA with his combination of length and quickness. Davis has tons of potential as both a pick and roll defender and roll man in my mind.
Plus, Davis has a vastly superior feel for the game than McGee. He just makes the right plays at the right times. Davis also projects as a superior offensive player than McGee as he has better touch and shooting form, giving him more potential as a post threat and pick and pop option. Also, Davis plays within his means most of the time, unlike McGee. Davis plays like a big man should, while McGee is too interested in getting highlight-reel blocks and dunks.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/18/2012 - 9:57am #648679
NYK2010ParticipantChandler is a much better defender and smarter player than McGee.
Did you not watch the playoffs last year?
Offensively Chandler though not a great finisher knows how to set screens be involved in the pick n roll.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/18/2012 - 10:50am #648699
Bmore_DCParticipantWizardOfOz been smokin that crack rock lately…
first you say LeBron lost his athletic ability, and now you compare the #1 pick in the draft to MCGEE????
c’mon son…
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/18/2012 - 10:51am #648700
uknationParticipantMore like K.G. Davis is better than J.M right now and he’s much younger. And don’t forget Davis Hasnt beena big man very long. Nremember Westbrook who hadn’t beena PG very long then ended up becoming a All NBA player. When you look at Davis motor, skill set and basketball IQ as well as intangibles there is no way you can mention him in the same breath as Chandler or JaVel
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/18/2012 - 11:10am #648709
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- Posted on: Sun, 03/18/2012 - 11:57am #648729
Mr. 19134ParticipantThis is one of the worse post ever. Like I really can’t believe what i read and that somebody could actually think this. They do share some similarities and it’s one of the main arguments I bring to the table when people say Davis can’t play Center in the NBA. Believe it or not McGee is probably a top 10 center right now, he just got traded for Nene for a reason…The Nuggets think he’s better. He rebounds and blocks shots at a much higher clip then Nene. Also McGee has been able to put on weight he’s added around 30 some pounds since joining the league and weighs over 250 now which is solid for an NBA Center.
But Davis is far and away better at every facet of the game and was better when he was 18 years old. Davis is gonna atleast win one National Player of the Year Award over your boy Thomas Robinson which is something McGee couldn’t even dream of if he were to play college right now.
Davis’ shoulders are much broader then McGee’s and will allow him to put on better weight quicker. And Davis is way quicker laterally. I don’t know where you got this perception he has slow lateral movement because that’s just absurd.
Go look at McGee’s sophomore stats at Nevada. As a freshman playing for a better team in a tougher conferance Davis is averaging 3 more rebounds, over 2 more blocks, 1 more steal, shoots about 12% higher from the field and nearly 20% higher from the foul line.
Anthony Davis leads the number on team in the country in points, rebounds, steals, blocks, and shooting % and he did most of it at just 18 years old nuff said.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/18/2012 - 12:02pm #648730
uknationParticipantI don’t think will have to worry about playing center because teams look at him as a PF ala K.G with a centers length
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/18/2012 - 12:25pm #648735
natedogggParticipantDavis has one fundamental thing that McGee doesnt… a brain.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/18/2012 - 12:46pm #648740
Future_Scoutyou guys gonna keep bringing up the smarts, when i say worst case for AD is mcgee. i mean a player that will never become a offensive threat unless you find him right under the rim or alley oops where he WILL DEF. EXCEL AT. running the court fast, blocking shots, getting O.rebs… (same for drummond with deandre). thats why i say worst case scenario, if he develops: no shot, no "facing-up-slashing game"/no handles, no post up game, (all this is possible), thats who he will be. a much much much smarter mcgee type of player… will box out better, will read open lanes better, etc.
when i mean he will be able to pick up SFs, i dont mean he’s gonna be matched up with SFs. i mean that he will have no trouble switching to a SF, on say, a p&r, or a screen where he gotta step out to pick up the shooter…
i strongly doubt he will be able to play sf OFFENSIVELY btw.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/18/2012 - 1:54pm #648754
uknationParticipantHave you watched Davis??? He is not just a alley guy or under the basket like JM. He has a right and left hook and mid range game as well as driving ability. and hes only a freshman so he will add even more moves as he gets older. On top of that coach Cal has said that he still can do more but they don’t need him to.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/18/2012 - 1:56pm #648756
TomShoeParticipant0 - Posted on: Sun, 04/01/2012 - 10:37pm #654254
dede21Wilt Chamberlain
0 - Posted on: Sun, 04/01/2012 - 11:36pm #654255
lalailaParticipantthat’s it..after the tournament Davis showed he is lock #1 and future star, he is still the same defensive shot blocking monster he rebounding even increased, his alley oop and other energy plays still is valuable but now he can shoot jumpers and hooks shots with BOTH hands has improved drastically, he airballed it pretty usually but he has too good touch not to improve it and last couple games showed will be a very good offensive player one day too..
also, talking about frame this kid measured 6’10 209 at nike hoop summit last year and before the season he was 220 already, now I bet he is around 6’11 and 230 his very wide shoulders can carry a lot of more weigth with losing any of athleticism(he actually looks more and more athletic) in the same way some great prospects developed their bodies too like Durant Dwight Aldridge..
just look at the pictures on chad ford’s mock Anthony is wider that a lot of much bulkier prospect and while he is willing to work on it he will be big enough for sure
0 - Posted on: Mon, 04/02/2012 - 4:44am #654307
M-EazyParticipantI really want to create another username just so I could thumbs down this comparison again.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/02/2012 - 10:58am #666654
kobyzParticipantafter this post i compare WizardofOz to JaVale McGee, amazing similarity with the low basketball IQ and the lack of understanding of the game!!!
can’t belive how someone can’t see the different between those two player….
Anthony Davis play with wisdom, knowledge, maturity and amazing mentality that make him impressive and having unremarked influence on the game, being able to use his physical atributes and skills to a big usefulness and know how to limit and hide his weaknesses during the game.
while on the other hand you have JaVale McGee who is amm… garbage!!0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/02/2012 - 4:45pm #666777
GanjahWeedParticipantBarnes has no heart. That is all.
Davis has everything.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/02/2012 - 8:35pm #666864
4thewinParticipantAnthony Davis – I see an Anthony Randolph type on offence and Serge Ibaka type defence
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/02/2012 - 8:35pm #666865
4thewinParticipantAnthony Davis – I see an Anthony Randolph type on offence and Serge Ibaka type defence
0 - Posted on: Thu, 05/03/2012 - 4:46am #666926
uknationParticipantLol@comparing Davis offense to Randolph. Just look at where each were drafted and where they would be drafted if they came out the same year. Randolph was Never compared to a AllStar potentially. Neither was McGee
0 - Posted on: Thu, 05/03/2012 - 8:02pm #667248
dede21Best comparison for Davis is Wilt Chamberlain
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