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  • #69537
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    OhCanada-
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    How would you rank the top 14 picks in a 2016 redraft?

     https://www.nbadraft.net/nba_final_draft/2016

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  • #1128331
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    Evan_Milberg
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    1) Ben Simmons

    2) Jamal Murray

    3) Jaylen Brown

    4) Buddy Hield

    5) Brandon Ingram

    6) Domatas Sabonis

    7) Malcolm Brogdon

    8) Pascal Siakam

    9) Caris Levert

    10) Taurean Prince

    11) Kris Dunn

    12) Dejounte Murray

    13) Pat McCaw

    14) Ivica Zubac

      

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  • #1128332
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    CavFanPR
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     It’ll go down as a historically bad draft.

    1. Ben Simmons

    2. Jamaal Murray

    3. Buddy Hield

    4. Brandon Ingram

    5. Domatas Sabonis

    6. Pascal Siakam

    7. Jaylen Brown

    8. Pascal Siakam

    9. Caris LeVert 

    10. Taurean Prince

    11. Kris Dunn

    12. Malcolm Brogdon

    13. Malik Beasley

    14. DeJounte Murray

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #1128341
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    The Goat
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     No way it’s historically bad. That’s a historically bad post though – you even listed Siakam at #6 and #8

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  • #1128350
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    sweaterflex
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    1. Ben Simmons- MVP if he gets a jump shot, perennial All Star if he doesn’t

    2. Pascal Siakam- two way monster, sleeper All Star this season

    3. Jamal Murray- much improved as a defender, could be a top 10 scorer in a few years when the pull up 3 starts falling

    4. Caris LeVert- two way wing with passing and shooting upside

    5. Jaylen Brown- needs to improve shooting consistency but already a very good defender when focused

    6. Buddy Hield- probably plateaus at current level (now that we all know he’s 26) but it’s a pretty good level.

    7. Brandon Ingram- the fit may be bad, but he has played very poorly two out of three seasons now. He needs to shoot and he needs to defend, and right now he does neither.

    8. Domantas Sabonis- extremely productive, would like to see him do it  aganst opposing teams’ starters.

    9. Malcolm Brogdon- I think a few players below become better in time, but right now he is a league average starter at either backcourt spot.

    10. Dejounte Murray-if he shoots he’s a top 5 player in the class, already a top 5 leaguewide backcourt defender when healthy.

    11. Juancho Hernangomez- holding up surprisingly well defending 3s, should be a long-term starter at either forward spot.

    12. Kris Dunn- something like the worse case outcome for Dejounte, has played incrementally better each year.

    13. Taurean Prince- valuable due to positional scarcity, but not great in any one area.

    14. Jakob Poeltl- very productive, center is such a deep position that he will likely never be top 15 despite his efficiency.

    15. Malik Beasley- the jumper has looked good, hard to be worth more being position-locked at the 2.

    My biggest misses: I thought Bender would be Pau Gasol with more defensive ability on the perimeter, I thought Wade Baldwin would be something like a mix of Westbrook and Bledsoe, and I thought Jaylen Brown would never shoot.

    Biggest hit: LeVert

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

      

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    • #1128351
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      juves4783
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      fred vanvleet – he should be considerable mention for back end spot.  holding up surprisingly well in the nba.

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      • #1128352
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        sweaterflex
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        Good call, last year I would have put him above Kris Dunn, I’d like to see what he’d do with 30+ minutes a game. 

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        • #1128356
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          OhCanada-
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           Van Vleets a backup PG hes not  starter in this league. With that being said I think he can really thrive as a backup and be one of the best reserve PG’s in the league. He just doesnt have the athletisism to matchup with the elite starting PG’s in the league.

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          • #1128392
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            HobbyOG
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             Sometimes a backup can win you championships..Spurs and Bulls had several guards with his skill set that won them multiple ships. 

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  • #1128353
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    kobyz
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    1. Ben Simmons – scottie pippen
    2. Domantas Sabonis – kevin mchale
    3. Jamal Murray – chauncey billups
    4. Malcolm Brogdon – joe dumars
    5. Jaylen Brown – latrell sprewall
    6. Caris LeVert – steve smith
    7. Kris Dunn – alvin robertson
    8. Dejounte Murray – ron harper
    9. Buddy Hield – hersey hawkins
    10. Pascal Siakam – andrei kirilenko
    11. Juan Hernangomez – danny granger
    12. Taurean Prince – stephan jackson
    13. Brandon Ingram – nicolas batum
    14. Ivica Zubac – rony seikaly
    15. Abdel Nader – rick fox

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    • #1128359
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      TRC1991
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      Kobyz always coming in with the comparisons. Every post. Rarely hits.

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  • #1128355
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    OhCanada-
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    Well heres my list. I really made this thread because I wanted to see how people veiw Siakam’s impact compared to others. Kinda a mixed response.

    I’d have Murray ahead of him because he’s been leading the top team in the West as the primary gaurd and always plays through alot of pressure. Siakam gets to play off of Leonard and Lowry also has Ibaka and Valanciunas in there but to his credit he has played well when those guys are out which has been most of the year. Toronto has been plagued with injuries (and rest). I also expect Siakam to have an amazing night tonight against the Suns with Lowry and Leonard both resting.

    1. Ben Simmons

    2. Jamal Murray

    3. Pascal Siakam

    4. Brandon Ingram

    5. Buddy Hield

    6. Domantas Sabonis

    7. Jaylen Brown

    8. Malcolm Brogdon

    9. Caris LeVert

    10. Dejounte Murray

    11. Taurean Prince

    12. Kris Dunn

    13. Fred Van Vleet

    14. Deandre Bembry

    You could make a case for Malik Beasley, Furkan Korkmaz, Jakob Poeltl, Jaun Hernangomez, Denzel Valentine and Ivaca Zubac at 14 but I like Bembry’s versatility. Damian Jones, Tyrone Wallace, Ante Zizic, Abdel Nader and Jake Layman also deserve a mention. Thats about it, pretty weak draft.

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  • #1128358
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    Memphis Madness
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     Not a great draft.

    Pascal Siakam could be 1 in a rerank a couple of years from now.  Who knows, maybe HE is more like Scottie Pippen.

    Looks like a weak draft (looking back on it).  Looking ahead, I can see the 2020 draft being like this.  Underwhelming.  Basically 1 blue chipper and guys with vague "upside".

     

     

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  • #1128363
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    BallerScript
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    1. Ben Simmons 
    2. Jamal Murray
    3. Domantas Sabonis
    4. Brandon Ingram
    5. Caris LeVert
    6. Buddy Hield
    7. Jaylen Brown
    8. Pascal Siakam
    9. Dejounte Murray
    10. Malcolm Brogdon
    11. Kris Dunn
    12. Taurean Prince
    13. Fred VanVleet
    14. Juan Hernangomez

    I imagine this list will still change dramatically over the next few years as these young guns find their footing in the league

     

     

     

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  • #1128382
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    The Goat
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    This is my top group in order, lots of guys I can’t split after this. It’s weak draft in a sense there won’t be many all stars but lots of guys will be in the league a long time. I can’t believe people were calling for Ingram over Simmons. I’m perfectly happy having all the guys listed above him in those spots I have them.

    Ben Simmons
    Pascal Siakam
    Jamal Murray
    Caris LeVert
    Jaylen Brown
    Dejounte Murray
    Malcolm Brogdon
    Buddy Hield
    Domantas Sabonis
    Brandon Ingram
    Kris Dunn

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  • #1128422
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    dmo21
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    I focused my draft on how these players are currently playing (not looking too much in the future, which is why I don’t have Dejounte in my draft) and on the needs of that team during the 2016 draft.

    PHI- Simmons

    LAL- Murray

    BOS- Sabonis

    PHO- Siakam

    MIN- Ingram

    NO- Hield

    DEN- Brogdon

    PHO- LeVert

    TOR- Brown

    MIL- Dunn

    OKC- Prince

    ATL- Brembry

    SAC- Beasley

    CHI- VanVleet

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

      

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