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  • #53133
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    Too cool
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    What are your 2014 All Star teams this year?

    West

    Backcourt: CP3, Curry

    Frontcourt: KD, Love, Howard

    Bench: Harden, Westbrook, Griffin, Davis, Duncan, Aldridge, Lillard

    East

    Backcourt: Irving, Wade

    Frontcourt: James, George, Hibbert

    Bench: Melo, Lopez, Wall, Horford, Drummond, Bosh, Green

    My starters are projected by the votes of the fans when the ballots are complete.

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  • #857959
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    wrector
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     How did you omit Kobe? I know he’s injured but his timetable has him returning in time for the ASG.

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    • #857974
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      wrector
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       Wtf? lol He’s leading all West guards in voting why the fuck wouldn’t he start if he were healthy? lmao

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      • #858191
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        t-love
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        To put it simply, he has just fallen off from what people expect from Kobe Bryant.

        2013 Kobe Stats (from basketballreference.com and espn.go.com):

        PPG: 13.8 (in perspective, thats his lowest scoring average since the 96-97 sesaon when he averaged 7,6 PPG as a rookie. In 97-98 he scored 15.4, the third lowest mark of his career.) Harden is putting up 24.4.

        FG%: .425, also the lowest since he was a rookie. Harden, who isn’t known for great shooting percentages is at .450 and scoring 11 more PPG.

        3 pt shooting: Kobe was taking 3.3 3 pointers per game and hitting .188% of them, a career low.

        Assists: 6.3 per game, a career high and the top mark this season among SG’s, I’ll give him that, but he’s not even blowing the competition away or anything. Harden is right behind him with 5.8 a game, but for the ASG we dont care if youre a 1 or a 2 guard. Guards are thrown into one big pool where Kobe would tie with Conley for 15th in APG. Meanwhile we have Curry (9.3APG/24.5PPG), Westbrook (6.9APG/21.0PPG), and Bledsoe (6.4APG/19.2PPG) who are capable of starting at the 2 in the ASG who all average better scoring and assist numbers than the Mamba, then you also have parker and Lillard (6.0APG/17.5PPG) and 5.9APG/21.3PPG respectively) who are pretty much right there with Kobe on the assist level but still besting him in scoring.

        Turnovers: 5.7 per game, a ridiculous number and a career high.

        And for you advanced stats fellas, his per of 11.6 is his worst ever. (he registered 14.4 as a rookie off the bench for the 2nd lowest mark)

        I know he was adjusting to coming off an injury and his minutes werrent as high as they usually are but if you look at his per 36 stats you’d see plenty of abnormal lows.

        To conclude, I think Harden, Curry, Westbrook, Lillard, Bledsoe, and Parker all deserve a starting guard spot more than Kobe, who’s playing some of the worst ball of his career.

        The whole situation shows how fan voting really F***s some guys over in the ASG. Kobe will probably get voted in based on his popularity and reputation while his selection is denying the new guard a chance to show their stuff on one of the NBA’s biggest stages. Not to mention achancethatthestatsshowtheyaremoredeservingofbasedontheirlevelofplaythanVino,who may lose that nickname he begins to get worse with age.

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

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      • #858084
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        t-love
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        To put it simply, he has just fallen off from what people expect from Kobe Bryant.

        2013 Kobe Stats (from basketballreference.com and espn.go.com):

        PPG: 13.8 (in perspective, thats his lowest scoring average since the 96-97 sesaon when he averaged 7,6 PPG as a rookie. In 97-98 he scored 15.4, the third lowest mark of his career.) Harden is putting up 24.4.

        FG%: .425, also the lowest since he was a rookie. Harden, who isn’t known for great shooting percentages is at .450 and scoring 11 more PPG.

        3 pt shooting: Kobe was taking 3.3 3 pointers per game and hitting .188% of them, a career low.

        Assists: 6.3 per game, a career high and the top mark this season among SG’s, I’ll give him that, but he’s not even blowing the competition away or anything. Harden is right behind him with 5.8 a game, but for the ASG we dont care if youre a 1 or a 2 guard. Guards are thrown into one big pool where Kobe would tie with Conley for 15th in APG. Meanwhile we have Curry (9.3APG/24.5PPG), Westbrook (6.9APG/21.0PPG), and Bledsoe (6.4APG/19.2PPG) who are capable of starting at the 2 in the ASG who all average better scoring and assist numbers than the Mamba, then you also have parker and Lillard (6.0APG/17.5PPG) and 5.9APG/21.3PPG respectively) who are pretty much right there with Kobe on the assist level but still besting him in scoring.

        Turnovers: 5.7 per game, a ridiculous number and a career high.

        And for you advanced stats fellas, his per of 11.6 is his worst ever. (he registered 14.4 as a rookie off the bench for the 2nd lowest mark)

        I know he was adjusting to coming off an injury and his minutes werrent as high as they usually are but if you look at his per 36 stats you’d see plenty of abnormal lows.

        To conclude, I think Harden, Curry, Westbrook, Lillard, Bledsoe, and Parker all deserve a starting guard spot more than Kobe, who’s playing some of the worst ball of his career.

        The whole situation shows how fan voting really F***s some guys over in the ASG. Kobe will probably get voted in based on his popularity and reputation while his selection is denying the new guard a chance to show their stuff on one of the NBA’s biggest stages. Not to mention achancethatthestatsshowtheyaremoredeservingofbasedontheirlevelofplaythanVino,who may lose that nickname he begins to get worse with age.

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

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        • #858735
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          wrector
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           I never said he deserved it. If he get’s voted a starter…he’s a starter. Barring injury. I guess that difficult to understand for the people who negged lol

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        • #858844
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           I never said he deserved it. If he get’s voted a starter…he’s a starter. Barring injury. I guess that difficult to understand for the people who negged lol

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    • #858081
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      wrector
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       Wtf? lol He’s leading all West guards in voting why the fuck wouldn’t he start if he were healthy? lmao

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  • #858065
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    wrector
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     How did you omit Kobe? I know he’s injured but his timetable has him returning in time for the ASG.

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  • #857961
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    Demarcus Cousins should be a reserve on the All Star squad. But the Kings can never win enough games for him to get the nod. He’s been playing like a top 3 center all year. Shame…

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  • #858067
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    Demarcus Cousins should be a reserve on the All Star squad. But the Kings can never win enough games for him to get the nod. He’s been playing like a top 3 center all year. Shame…

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  • #857964
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    aivsdirk
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     West starters: PG-cp3, SG-westbrook, SF-durant, PF-aldridge, C-howard.

    West bench: curry, harden, dirk, love, lee, parker;one more spot

     Last spot i got 3 plus 1 guys & cant pick 1 yet and why should i its not even 2014(im biased for dirk my team is the MAVS, but still dallas last year without him versus this year with him is enough said. Blake Griffin, Clipps were a losing team without chris paul now they are a loser in the 1st round with him. Blake is a all-highlight guy but not a clear cut all-star who makes a difference on a night-to-night basis towards wins in my opinion. I also got Lawson who has obviously separated himself from the rest of his fellow really, good players the nuggets have, and is keep them in the playoff hunt until danilo comes back to share the load. Llilard what do you do. He hasnt gotten better from last season, shootin 40% from the field thats definitely not all-star quality plus only 5.9 assists per game, still he deserves a mention, just look at portland.

    East starters: PG-Wall, SG-Wade, F-James F-George, (last guy whatever, every since they made it just front court i dont know if we’ll even have a center. Should be brook if he is healthy, could be hibbert but the pacers dont throw him them ball down low enough, at the end of the day might be Carmelo. So I guess Brook.

    East bench: Horford, Melo, Bosh, Derozan,Walker, Hibbert,One more spot.

    I would be fine with josh smith, B.Jennings, or drummond from the pistons and maybe jeff green from boston.

    Yea i left off kyrie, can he atleast lead his team to the top 8 in playoff standings for atleast a week? No? well no all-star spot.The NBA is about wins not individual spot-light.

     

     

     

     

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    • #858000
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      How is Love not a starter for the West?  He has better numbers than both Aldridge and Howard.  Granted his team isn’t winning as much, but he still plays for a .500 team in the loaded west.

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    • #858107
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      How is Love not a starter for the West?  He has better numbers than both Aldridge and Howard.  Granted his team isn’t winning as much, but he still plays for a .500 team in the loaded west.

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  • #858071
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     West starters: PG-cp3, SG-westbrook, SF-durant, PF-aldridge, C-howard.

    West bench: curry, harden, dirk, love, lee, parker;one more spot

     Last spot i got 3 plus 1 guys & cant pick 1 yet and why should i its not even 2014(im biased for dirk my team is the MAVS, but still dallas last year without him versus this year with him is enough said. Blake Griffin, Clipps were a losing team without chris paul now they are a loser in the 1st round with him. Blake is a all-highlight guy but not a clear cut all-star who makes a difference on a night-to-night basis towards wins in my opinion. I also got Lawson who has obviously separated himself from the rest of his fellow really, good players the nuggets have, and is keep them in the playoff hunt until danilo comes back to share the load. Llilard what do you do. He hasnt gotten better from last season, shootin 40% from the field thats definitely not all-star quality plus only 5.9 assists per game, still he deserves a mention, just look at portland.

    East starters: PG-Wall, SG-Wade, F-James F-George, (last guy whatever, every since they made it just front court i dont know if we’ll even have a center. Should be brook if he is healthy, could be hibbert but the pacers dont throw him them ball down low enough, at the end of the day might be Carmelo. So I guess Brook.

    East bench: Horford, Melo, Bosh, Derozan,Walker, Hibbert,One more spot.

    I would be fine with josh smith, B.Jennings, or drummond from the pistons and maybe jeff green from boston.

    Yea i left off kyrie, can he atleast lead his team to the top 8 in playoff standings for atleast a week? No? well no all-star spot.The NBA is about wins not individual spot-light.

     

     

     

     

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  • #857968
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    aivsdirk
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     Too cool would you mind just an explanation of why you feel curry should start?

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  • #858075
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    aivsdirk
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     Too cool would you mind just an explanation of why you feel curry should start?

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  • #857978
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    franfran
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    WEST

    Chris Paul

    Kobe Bryant

    Kevin Durant

    Blake Griffin

    Dwight Howard

    Russell Westbrook

    James Harden

    Kevin Love

    DeMarcus Cousins

    LaMarcus Aldridge

    Stephen Curry

    Tony Parker

     

    EAST

    Kyrie Irving

    Dwayne Wade

    Paul George

    Carmelo Anthony

    LeBron James

    John Wall

    Roy Hibbert

    Al Horford

    Andre Drummond

    DeMar DeRozan

    Michael Carter-Williams

    Jeff Teague or Bradley Beal

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #858085
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    franfran
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    WEST

    Chris Paul

    Kobe Bryant

    Kevin Durant

    Blake Griffin

    Dwight Howard

    Russell Westbrook

    James Harden

    Kevin Love

    DeMarcus Cousins

    LaMarcus Aldridge

    Stephen Curry

    Tony Parker

     

    EAST

    Kyrie Irving

    Dwayne Wade

    Paul George

    Carmelo Anthony

    LeBron James

    John Wall

    Roy Hibbert

    Al Horford

    Andre Drummond

    DeMar DeRozan

    Michael Carter-Williams

    Jeff Teague or Bradley Beal

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #857980
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    qDizzle32
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    I’d honestly have Bradley Beal on there if he hadn’t gotten injured. Cousins needs to be somewhere on there, but remember that every year there’s snubs especially when Stephen Curry didn’t make it last year.

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  • #858087
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    qDizzle32
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    I’d honestly have Bradley Beal on there if he hadn’t gotten injured. Cousins needs to be somewhere on there, but remember that every year there’s snubs especially when Stephen Curry didn’t make it last year.

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  • #857984
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    qDizzle32
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    Lillard definitely deserves to make it this year with how good him and the Blazers have been this year. Aldridge is already a lock to make it.

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  • #858091
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    qDizzle32
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    Lillard definitely deserves to make it this year with how good him and the Blazers have been this year. Aldridge is already a lock to make it.

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  • #857986
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    KidIcarus35
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     I dont totally understand why so many people are putting Drummond on their ballot.. Hes averaging 7.9 ppg and 7.6 rebounds. Monroe is averaging 14.9ppg and 8.9rpg

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    • #857998
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      dcase
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      Where are you getting your stats?  Drummond is essentially averaging 13pts and 13 rebs.  Plus he gets 1.5 steals and 1.5 blocks.  Not to mention he is 2nd in FG% at 62%.

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      • #858004
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        KidIcarus35
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         Oh fuck. I downvoted myself. The site had only listed last year. My bad. Brain malfunction.

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      • #858111
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        KidIcarus35
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         Oh fuck. I downvoted myself. The site had only listed last year. My bad. Brain malfunction.

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    • #858105
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      dcase
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      Where are you getting your stats?  Drummond is essentially averaging 13pts and 13 rebs.  Plus he gets 1.5 steals and 1.5 blocks.  Not to mention he is 2nd in FG% at 62%.

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  • #858093
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    KidIcarus35
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     I dont totally understand why so many people are putting Drummond on their ballot.. Hes averaging 7.9 ppg and 7.6 rebounds. Monroe is averaging 14.9ppg and 8.9rpg

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  • #857988
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    Too cool
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     Aivsdirk I think Curry should start simply because hes been one of the best guards in the entire league this year. Hes averaging 24.5 ppg, 9.3 apg, 4 rpg and 2 stls a game. And since the starters are determined by fan voting, I believe he’ll get the nod by the fans because of his popularity, assuming Kobe does not play in the ASG. 

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    • #857996
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       i was waiting for a response and i wish it was a better one. Curry is by far one of the worst defenders as fars as pg’s go. There d dropped a level the minute iggy got hurt. They were comfortably in the middle of the playoff standing before his injury now look at them. Plus the reason his team is always fighting out of a jam is a lot of curry’s fault. Too many turnovers in my opinion. 4.2 turnovers a game? 9.3 assists is respectable but not that many turnovers. He is better than most players in the league yes, no doubt, but he hasnt shown me the he has the full set of skill and ig too lead a team. offense is only one part of the game and his offense isnt even elite besides his shooting. And he flat out cant defend. If Chris paul averaged that bad of an ass/to ratio with even worse defense. He wouldnt get half that respect. Curry is the shooting equivalent of blake’s dunking. A lot of highlights but definitely more oohs and ahhs than wins. Not saying curry hasnt been critical to some of his team’s wins. Just saying if he were a more complete player(which is what all-stars are) he would be a better defender, less turnover prone, and some 3’s he takes are just at bad times. 

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      • #858741
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        blood

         is absurd.STEPHEN CURRY IS THE BEST PG IN LEAGUE RIGHT NOW,AND TOP 10 PLAYER HE DESERVES TO BE STARTER ESPECIALLY CAUSE HE WAS ROBBED LAST EW YEARS,AND I THINK HE COULD PUT UP A SHOW IN ASG IF HE GETS HOT.

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      • #858850
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         is absurd.STEPHEN CURRY IS THE BEST PG IN LEAGUE RIGHT NOW,AND TOP 10 PLAYER HE DESERVES TO BE STARTER ESPECIALLY CAUSE HE WAS ROBBED LAST EW YEARS,AND I THINK HE COULD PUT UP A SHOW IN ASG IF HE GETS HOT.

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    • #858103
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       i was waiting for a response and i wish it was a better one. Curry is by far one of the worst defenders as fars as pg’s go. There d dropped a level the minute iggy got hurt. They were comfortably in the middle of the playoff standing before his injury now look at them. Plus the reason his team is always fighting out of a jam is a lot of curry’s fault. Too many turnovers in my opinion. 4.2 turnovers a game? 9.3 assists is respectable but not that many turnovers. He is better than most players in the league yes, no doubt, but he hasnt shown me the he has the full set of skill and ig too lead a team. offense is only one part of the game and his offense isnt even elite besides his shooting. And he flat out cant defend. If Chris paul averaged that bad of an ass/to ratio with even worse defense. He wouldnt get half that respect. Curry is the shooting equivalent of blake’s dunking. A lot of highlights but definitely more oohs and ahhs than wins. Not saying curry hasnt been critical to some of his team’s wins. Just saying if he were a more complete player(which is what all-stars are) he would be a better defender, less turnover prone, and some 3’s he takes are just at bad times. 

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  • #858095
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     Aivsdirk I think Curry should start simply because hes been one of the best guards in the entire league this year. Hes averaging 24.5 ppg, 9.3 apg, 4 rpg and 2 stls a game. And since the starters are determined by fan voting, I believe he’ll get the nod by the fans because of his popularity, assuming Kobe does not play in the ASG. 

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  • #857994
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    Tongue-Out-Like-23
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    How would Curry or Westbrook start over Harden in the backcourt?

    Harden is putting up better numbers than both and he’s winning.

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  • #858101
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    How would Curry or Westbrook start over Harden in the backcourt?

    Harden is putting up better numbers than both and he’s winning.

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  • #858127
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    Too cool
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     TOL23,

    As I said above, the starters I named were based on my projected fan voting when the ballots close. Curry might not deserve to start, but IMO because of the fan vote he’ll get the nod along with CP3. Nevertheless, I believe Curry deserves to be on the team. 

     

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  • #858020
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    Too cool
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     TOL23,

    As I said above, the starters I named were based on my projected fan voting when the ballots close. Curry might not deserve to start, but IMO because of the fan vote he’ll get the nod along with CP3. Nevertheless, I believe Curry deserves to be on the team. 

     

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  • #858140
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    Chris Paul

     

    Kobe Bryant

     

    Kevin Durant

     

    Blake Griffin

     

    Dwight Howard

     

    Russell Westbrook

     

    James Harden

     

    Kevin Love

     

    Damian Lillard

     

    LaMarcus Aldridge

     

    Stephen Curry

     

    Tony Parker

     

    EAST

     

    Kyrie Irving

     

    Dwayne Wade

     

    Paul George

     

    Carmelo Anthony

     

    LeBron James

     

    Roy Hibbert

     

    John Wall

     

    Al Horford

     

    Andre Drummond

     

    Jeff Green

     

    Brandon Jennings

     

     

     

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  • #858032
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    Chris Paul

     

    Kobe Bryant

     

    Kevin Durant

     

    Blake Griffin

     

    Dwight Howard

     

    Russell Westbrook

     

    James Harden

     

    Kevin Love

     

    Damian Lillard

     

    LaMarcus Aldridge

     

    Stephen Curry

     

    Tony Parker

     

    EAST

     

    Kyrie Irving

     

    Dwayne Wade

     

    Paul George

     

    Carmelo Anthony

     

    LeBron James

     

    Roy Hibbert

     

    John Wall

     

    Al Horford

     

    Andre Drummond

     

    Jeff Green

     

    Brandon Jennings

     

     

     

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    • #858195
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      TRC1991
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       Jeff Green an all-star huh? not a big follower of the NBA i take it

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    • #858088
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      TRC1991
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       Jeff Green an all-star huh? not a big follower of the NBA i take it

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