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  • #28174
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    valentine

    Now of course no one knows how these guys are gonna pan out so just for fun lets try to make a educated guess based on what they did in college, how there game translates to the NBA. Going by this sites mock draft for this year

    1. Kenyon Martin, Cincinnati New Jersey
    2. Stromile Swift, LSU Vancouver
    3. Darius Miles, East St. Louis HS (Mo.) L.A. Clippers
    4. Marcus Fizer, Iowa State Chicago
    5. Mike Miller, Florida Orlando
    6. DerMarr Johnson, Cincinnati Atlanta
    7. Chris Mihm, Texas Chicago (1)
    8. Jamal Crawford, Michigan Cleveland (1)
    9. Joel Przybilla, Minnesota Houston (2)
    10. Keyon Dooling, Missouri Orlando (3)
    11. Jerome Moiso, UCLA Boston
    12. Etan Thomas, Syracuse Dallas
    13. Courtney Alexander, Fresno State Orlando (4)
    14. Mateen Cleaves, Michigan State Detroit
    15. Jason Collier, Georgia Tech Milwaukee (2)
    16. Hidayet Turkoglu, Turkey Sacramento
    17. Desmond Mason, Oklahoma State Seattle
    18. Quentin Richardson, DePaul L.A. Clippers
    19. Jamaal Magloire, Kentucky Charlotte
    20. Speedy Claxton, Hofstra Philadelphia
    21. Morris Peterson, Michigan State Toronto
    22. Donnell Harvey, Florida New York (5)
    23. DeShawn Stevenson, Washington Union HS (Calif.) Utah
    24. Dalibor Bagaric, Croatia Chicago
    25. Iakovos Tsakalidis, Greece Phoenix
    26. Mamadou N’diaye, Auburn Denver
    27. Primoz Brezec, Slovenia Indiana
    28. Erick Barkley, St. John’s Portland
    29. Mark Madsen, Stanford L.A. Lakers

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    # Team Player H W P School C
    1 Minnesota Derrick Williams 6-9 241 SF/PF Arizona So.
    2 Cleveland Kyrie Irving 6-2 180 PG Duke Fr.
    3 Toronto Enes Kanter 6-11 261 PF/C Kentucky Fr.
    4 Washington Donatas Motiejunas 7-0 224 PF Lithuania Intl.
    5 Sacramento Brandon Knight 6-3 185 PG/SG Kentucky Fr.
    6 *Utah Jan Vesely 6-11 230 SF/PF Czech Republic Intl.
    7 Detroit Jimmer Fredette 6-2 195 PG BYU Sr.
    8 *Cleveland Jonas Valanciunas 6-11 240 C Lithuania Intl.
    9 Charlotte Marcus Morris 6-9 218 SF/PF Kansas Jr.
    10 Milwaukee Alec Burks 6-6 191 PG/SG Colorado So.
    11 Golden St. Markieff Morris 6-10 245 PF Kansas Jr.
    12 *Utah Terrence Jones 6-8 244 SF Kentucky Fr.
    13 *Phoenix Kemba Walker 6-0 172 PG UConn Jr.
    14 Houston Tristan Thompson 6-9 225 PF Texas Fr.
    15 Indiana Trey Thompkins 6-10 247 PF Georgia Jr.
    16 Philadelphia Kawhi Leonard 6-7 225 SF San Diego St. So.
    17 New York Tyler Honeycutt 6-8 185 SG/SF UCLA So.
    18 *Washington Jordan Hamilton 6-7 226 SG/SF Texas So.
    19 *Charlotte Tobias Harris 6-8 225 SF Tennessee Fr.
    20 *Minnesota Chris Singleton 6-9 225 SF/PF Florida St. Jr.
    21 Portland Kenneth Faried 6-8 225 PF Morehead St. Sr.
    22 Denver Jordan Williams 6-10 260 PF Maryland So.
    23 *Houston Shelvin Mack 6-2 215 PG/SG Butler Jr.
    24 Oklahoma Cty Nolan Smith 6-3 189 PG/SG Duke Sr.
    25 Boston Bismack Biyambo 6-9 243 C Congo Intl.
    26 Dallas JaJuan Johnson 6-10 221 PF Purdue Sr.
    27 *New Jersey Jeremy Tyler 6-10 245 PF USA Intl.
    28 *Chicago Kyle Singler 6-8 237 SF Duke Sr.
    29 San Antonio Jon Leuer 6-10 228 PF Wisconsin Sr.
    30 Chicago Travis Leslie 6-4 202 SG/SF Georgia

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  • #523632
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    JimmeredYaWabafet
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    Kenyon Martin, Cincinnati New Jersey
    5. Mike Miller, Florida Orlando
    8. Jamal Crawford, Michigan Cleveland (1)
    16. Hidayet Turkoglu, Turkey Sacramento

    and Michael Redd

    Those are the only allstar caliubur players in that draft no way this draft will be that horrible

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  • #523634
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    quinceyh1

    yeah but lets not do the hindsight thing lets think about what there potential was at the time

    D.Miles was thought to one day become a allstar
    Dermarr Johnson was in the same boat (a 6’9 sg who was so talented that as a H.S Jr teams said he would have been a top 5 pick)

    Fizer,man child who was thought to have all star potential.
    Cleevs, thought to be a long time starter that would be on a title team because he was a natural leader
    Q-Rich – freshman who dominated in college so the potential was thought to be high

    Stromile Swift- What you see Anthony Davis doing is what Stomile was doing in H.S

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  • #523638
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    aamir543
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    I know we are saying that this is a terrible draft, but we may wrong. And honestly, we won’t know anything until a year from now. After a players first season in the NBA, we are able to see what kind of player they will become.This is true 80% of the time. Of course there are exceptions, but I don’t think we can complain with the recent talent boom in the League.

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  • #523639
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    ilike.panochas
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    But just on upside alone, the 2000 class had so many talented prospects, compared to low upside prospects in 2011 draft. You had a freshman PG with Jamal Crawford going #8 overall, if he was in the 2011 draft, he would be in the top 5 and ahead of Brandon Knight and Kemba. But as talented as the 2000 class were, most of them were also raw prospects.

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  • #523643
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    NYCarolina
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    Looking at that 2000 draft, you can tell this draft was weak, on the simple fact of guys like Etan Thomas was a top 15 pick. Man was average his senior year at SU. That draft, even with the potential going in for players like Miles and Swift, was a weaker draft.

    I think the 2011 draft will surprise alot of people. In terms of stars? Not much. In terms of good players who can develop to above average? I think we have 6-10 good players who can be that. Also, this 2011 draft seems to have a good amount of "fringe" role players. Guys like Travis Leslie, David Lighty, Jacob Pullen, Jamie Skeen and such have potential to be good role players later in their careers.

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  • #523646
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    quinceyh1

    one thing is for sure, with Henson,sullinger,Jones,Zeller,T.Robinson,Tristan(so far),Barnes,Mason returning that opens up 8 spots for guys who would have have been second round picks and 8 guys who will be in the lotto who would have gone in the late first round

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  • #523650
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    sheltwon3
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    I think this draft may wind up being better than many thought because you are getting a lot of guys that should come in and be ready.  Also in a draft where there is not many clear cut guys you can experiment and not get clowned as much.  This is a draft where the team that has the best scout will succeed more than anybody else.  Some teams will make good moves based on dumb luck.

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  • #523651
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    sheltwon3
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    Darius Miles could have still been good but he got injured.  It seems Portland has a history of guys getting injured.  If I was an NBA player, i would be worried about playing for them just like the Clippers whose players have had some key injuries.

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  • #523652
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    sheltwon3
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    Fizer had NBA talent but a bad attitude and pissed the wrong people off.

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  • #523656
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    quinceyh1

    Miles never showed more than being able to dunk and score on the fast break

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  • #523657
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    bigblackNbeautiful
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     The one huge difference I personally see is the talent coming in from other countries in this draft. The Euro players in this draft are probably some of the better prospects that europe has had in the last few years. 2000 didnt have that at all. But if you take away the Euro prospects then this draft would not nearly be as good as it could be. I think this draft will produce alot of role players. Rebounders like Faried, shooters like Klay Thompson, and defenders such as lighty are always wanted pieces for teams and I think this draft has a good number of those players. But I honestly feel that this draft will have some of the best new euro talent in the league. Dont be suprised to see Ricky Rubio if he comes over and players such as vesley, kanter, valanciunas, Montiejunas or even a bogdanovic(if he declares and comes over) fighting for that honor if there is in fact a 2011 season. 

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  • #523663
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    TheLastWord
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    One of these international guys is going to be really, really good. My money is on Valencunias. He is billed as an underweight, defensive oriented center, but his amazing touch at the free throw line tells me their is quite a bit of offenive upside as well.

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