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The REAL way to determine the best basketball mind on this site...

ALL input will be appreciated, accepted and considered and to improve this idea.

Let's have a single ellimination playoff series! There'll be eight seeds total.

- Round 1 will be seeds 1 vs 8, 2 vs 7, 3 vs 6 and 4 vs 5.
- Round 2 will be the winner of 1 vs 8 vs the winner of 3 vs 6 and the winner of 2 vs 7 vs the winner of 4 vs 5.
- Round 3 will be a final battle vs the winners last left standing to determine the BEST BASKETBALL MIND ON THE SITE.

- Each member on this site will place ONE vote for who they think the best poster is on this site. YOU CANNOT VOTE FOR YOURSELF. There'll be a deadline set for voting. After the deadline, the votes will be counted and we'll take the top eight vote getters and place them in a playoff. The user with the most votes will be the #1 seed and so on. If a person who is voted in doesn't show within a certain amount of time, we'll replace them with the next top vote getter.

- Each match will be given ONE question to answer. That question will be thought up by the users who are assigned the question. After the question is answered, all users will have a deadline to vote for who they think the winner is. A deadline will be set for voting.

What do y'all think about this???


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some of the best posters

don't show up that often. Guys like Auber, Kacey4321, and Adi Joseph are some of the more respected opinions in my book, but they don't seem to post as often. I would probably add Josh Huestis just off the top of my head as well. Knicksboy contributes a lot to this site, although I seem to disagree with him a lot.

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What about me? lol Thats a

What about me? lol Thats a joke. Anyway, sounds like a good thing. A few questions, who will judge?? How will you know that someone isnt just making up stuff? Can they use the internet as a source?

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This is tough. It has to be

This is tough. It has to be opinion based because people can google stats and facts. Its hard to judge opinions.

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That was my point exactly my

That was my point exactly my man.

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I wanted to be pitted

I wanted to be pitted against Dhamp if the topic is Devendorf and Sheltwon if the topic is about Sessions being a top 5 PG right now. haha

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Users can volunteer for

Users can volunteer for questions. I mean, I don't think we need to have a vote for that lol. The question can be whatever the user wants it to be, as long as it's a good question.

After the users from the match answer the question (they'll have a deadline)... The users on the site will read the replys and then vote (there will be a deadline to vote) on who they think answered the question the best. After the deadline, we'll count up the votes and the winner will advance to the next round.

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Of course, it's going to be

Of course, it's going to be opinion based. That's why the users on the site will vote for the answer they agree with the most. When the voting is counted, we'll be able to determine the best basketball mind by who we agree with the most.

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So if someone, for example

So if someone, for example DHamp, may not be well liked, will get negative votes just because people dont like him?

BTW, im not saying that DHamp isnt liked, its just that i think he is at the center of all of this.

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exactly

It is like the point system. I dont like him thumbs down. How will we know who would coach or scout the best over everyone thats on this site. People would go against people they don't like. We all know there are people on here we would really rather not see post.

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Good point! I didn't even

Good point! I didn't even think about that! I forgot we have some immature dudes on here! Well... I tried to think of something! Y'all have any ideas?

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Maybe we can have a panel of

Maybe we can have a panel of judges. People who aren't in the top 8, but who have established integrity through being on the site and not being in the middle of contraversy.

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I think forming some kind of challenge

is pointless. Some people are more knowledgeable, but some just argue better. I can tell who has knowledge by what I read. Points are dumb too. On the other DHamp challenge thread, a couple people said the Lakers had a losing record the year Kobe put up 35 a game, and I corrected them by saying they went 45-37, and i got -3 points for stating a fact.

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If everything is opinion

If everything is opinion based, then there is no way to do it. The reason is simple. You cant be better than anyone else based on opinion. Facts are something that you can use to see if you are "better" or "smarter" than someone just by recalling facts. They have a definate right and wrong. Opinions, however, are never wrong. Everyone has an opinion and are entitled to it. It is not right to wrong. I dont know how to determin who is the best. Aran made the best stab at it by installing the point system and if people would use it, then it would work perfect. Btw, i would like to know how people use the point system.

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well said

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The biggest issues are -

The biggest issues are

- Were on the CPU and we can look up info
-People hate people on this site

We should have a timed 3 round discussion. 3 different topics : Past, Present and Future. And each person get 3 posts on each topic

and whoever the people agree with the most wins...

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You are correct in your

You are correct in your statement. We could do a trivia contest or soething to test knowledge, but I think that would be pointless. This forum is all about opinions and everyone has one as different as they are. Can't really judge them fairly. The point system would be a good barometer, but it's very mis-used from what I believe it's intended purpose was or was intended to be.

I really think it's ridiculous to give yourself a point for each post. Also,some people give points to people autmatically because they are friends or whatever. I give points to people who bring up a good point and back it with thought. I only take points away when someone makes an idiotic statement that can't be backed logically. I know some were awarded points for mock draft, and that was ok, but if you look at the point leaders, it's not at all reflective of who I view the top posters on this site. I decided a long time ago to disregard points, but it does get me frustrated at times to see someone make 5 comments on one thread and award themselves 5 points, or if I make a comment I think is a good point only to find someone has taken a point away from me. The point system was briefly taken off. I was hoping it would stay that way, but no such luck.

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Tezo83, you went through all

Tezo83, you went through all of this trouble because people agreed with me. Dude, I told you, I really know basketball. Stop being fooled by the Hubie Brown persona.

Dhamp

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DHamp. It is awesome to

DHamp. It is awesome to have knowledge, however, it is not awesome to call people out and tell everyone that you are better or smarter than them. You also put out a bad vibe by being cocky and kind of a douche man. But thats you and im ok with that. If thats who you are then so be it man.

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D Hamp, you have knowledge

D Hamp, you have knowledge no doubt. I agree with you more than I don't. Lol I don't pay any attention to that whole Hubie Brown persona bruh. I'm just saying... If we're going to try to determine who the best basketball mind on the site is, there's a better way to do it than everybody against you lol. You nice, but you ain't THAT hard bruh lol.

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D-Hamp be real right

D-Hamp be real right now...why r u taking my points away?

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I haven't taken you're

I haven't taken you're points away.

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OK, just asking thanks But

OK, just asking thanks

But we should have this debate...8 people and see who wins

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IF I had to vote for the

IF I had to vote for the user with the most knowledge, I'd go with Tuck2243. He's argumentive as hell lol, but he's on point.

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I think I'm the best. Dhamp

I think I'm the best.

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I feel I would a be a young

I feel I would a be a young team with a lot of promise like the the Blazers but the difference is I wouldnt make these playoffs lol

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Knicksfreak dang homie you

Knicksfreak dang homie you can't let stuff go and also man I know I am right but we will especially if Knicks get Sessions. His assists numbers will be ridiculous. I just wish he could shoot as well as Nash but then again he can defend and drive better.

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Knicksfreak you and other

Knicksfreak you and other people never defended your arguments. It was all opinion back and forth. I have watched dude play and based on what I saw, I believe he is a top 5 point guard right now but in reality I know if we start listing point guards he may be like the 7 or 8 but it would be close. Although outside of Paul and Williams there is no really great point guard already set. You have a lot of guys with that potential but they still have holes in their game. Some of the other guys that have legit point guard skills are old like Nash and Kidd. Billups is a great leader but even he will tell you that he is a system point guard. He has playmaking abilities but he gets his assists out of a system most of the time. He is not a pure playmaker. Also I got in trouble for saying that Tony Parker was a combo guard. Parker still thinks score first most of the time. I dont know base on what evidence anyone can defend me on this. I do not want to come across as cocky but I have been a basketball fan for a long time am 29. I have watched some of these player we talk about since they were rookies and some I know from the college and Mcdonald game and I have been watching them for years. Some players I dont know because I slacked off these past 4 or 5 years but I still keep track just now like I used to. I have arguments with people who have only been watching a player for maybe 3 or 4 years of his 9 year career or so and they know more about him then I do and that to me is crazy. I go back and forth with many people i know about basketball and my opinions are respected. If you disagree with me and want to put me in that crowd of he doesnt know what he is talking about you can do that but we will see and I will say last year I was not able to be on here so anything that was in my head did not get typed so this season will be nice because I know after it everyone will be saying that I am a great basketball mind. I am older but I kind of don't like be putting on some joke status about something I am passionate about I guess it is one of my buttons. At one point basketball from a coach scout and GM point was going to be my life. Evaluating players is something I love to do.

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This is my idea except more

This is my idea except more in depth basically.

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I agree with setting up

I agree with setting up three judges to vote on the debates I mean there has to be more than eight people on this sight who know basketball. Just pick three out of whose left who seem to be objective and wouldn't be biased.

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it's funny to me that all

it's funny to me that all you guys want to be the best poster on the site, like somehow that'd mean something? lol it's interesting to see other peoples' views, but i don't these is any BEST poster. haha u guys are clowns

there's no best to it, that's why not the same coach wins every year and not the same players win all the time. theres not just one right answer to basketball

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Sounds cool

However, I doubt some of the "knowledgeable" posters could make a commitment to a competition with timed rounds.

I also agree that a trivia contest is irrelevant due to people being on the web and can look the information up (Knicksboy's point) and also what Maravich said in regards to this forum being more about opinions. However, a little trivia wouldn't be bad though, but you would still have to be picky in designing those trivia questions. Since we have people representing all different ages, 15-17, 19-20 ish, and 25+, some will have the advantage of being around longer. But maybe "being older" is what this "best basketball mind on this site" has to contain.

I'm all for the tournament setup, if someone can figure it out. I wouldn't mind serving as a part time judge, but I don't know what kind of commitment that would consist of, so I'll have to wait and see.

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Also, since llperez gave me

Also, since llperez gave me a shout out, I figured I would share the users that I have felt are the most knowledgeable. Keep in mind, there are probably posters who are knowledgeable and just don't visit the forum enough for me to get a feel for their knowledge.

In no particular order:
maravich44
yupyup
llperez22
gatorheels
tezo83
Sheltwon
xbadgerhustler
igoudala9
mikenike

There are a handful of others that should probably be on the list that I have left off. There are also a handful of others that I need more time to evaluate. Overall, the forum is full of some really solid posters and it would be hard to figure out who is the "best basketball mind."

I think you all need to consider what the "best basketball mind" consists of before you set the rules and grounds for your tournament. I think that would help in judging who is better than the other, if possible.

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xbadgerhustler-For me it

xbadgerhustler-For me it isn't about being the best, it is about others being so cocky with themselves that they believe the are truly better then others and I would like to disprove them. I don't care about being the best, but it bothers me when other people claim they are when they really have noting to build off of.

kacey4321-Thanks for the shout out.

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500 pts were from the mock draft contest.

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competition

We should run this by Aran. He would be a great judge for this competition and would provide an unbiased analysis of a opinions. Instead of just eight people, turn it into march madness! We should truly decide who is the best by having at least a 64 person bracket! Seeds should be randomized as should "regions". This would be great and would really determine the best. Topics could be contributed by users and the best topics can be chosen for competition. I agree how the whole points system is messed up right now. Too many people take away points just because they don't like the person posting or other bull reasons. There are too many people in the top 100 for points that I've never even seen post before...

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Thank you!

Kacey-4321, thanks for mentioning me! I don't know how to determine the best basketball mind on the site, and to be honest, there probably isn't a good way. Points could be a way, but the system would have to be completely revamped. In the end, it probably doesn't matter. I think there are a handful of guys whose opinions I will go out of my way to read. That's not to say I agree with all that's said, but posters such as Gatorheels, Sheltwon, Knicksboy 34, Auber,X Badgerhustler, kacey-4321, and a handful of others put thought into what they say, and have good knowledge of the game and insight. That's the purpose of this site. We want to express our opinions and hear others who know the game. There is the occasional goofball, but for the most part, most people put some thought into what they say and have an opinion worth considering. Some put more time and effort into backing their opinions with fact.

A trivia contest would be a lot of fun, but wouldn't prove anything. IMO, being recognized by other posters as one of the more knowledgable on the site is about as good as we're going to do. I thank you again for mentioning me and look forward to hearing more valued opinions on a wide variety of hoops topics!

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I'll be a pretty good judge.

I'll be a pretty good judge. I don't really hate anyone here.

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is this

is this gonna happen? or still in the works?

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