D. WILL or CP3
Ok we all kno williams still hasn't made an all star game n his career but, u have to say he is tha best pg n tha league, he's big, strong has a nice stroke from almost every where, nasty crossover, and he can drop nice dimes ( Sick passes), I think he is a better overall player than CP3 is while some may beg 2 differ. Who is better n ur opinion.
i will never agree that deron williams is better than cp3.
cp3 will be the best point guard for years.....
is bigger and stronger. d-will dominates paul everytime they play against each other.
But we could argue all day. I think have made my feelings very clear on the subject.
By squirmydude at 2009-07-18
This is real hard. I think it's a toss-up and just depends on what you like in a point guard. You really can't go wrong with either. I would chose D-Will because he's bigger and stronger.
chris paul all his stats are better
CP3, better shooter
CP3, better passer (arguable)
D-Will, smarter (aruguable)
defensively, it can sway either way, but CP3 gets the steals so lets go with him
D-Will, "better at doing the little things"
Its a close matchup, if i was playing a pick-up game, i'd choose D-Will
but if I was starting a franchise, Chris Paul
williams is the better shooter tho
It's like Jason Kidd is Chris Paul and Deron Williams is Steve Nash. Who is better Kidd or Nash? I think Nash is better.
D-Will is the better shooter. Paul is the better passer maybe, but who won the Play Station Skills Challenge? Not Chris Paul, but guess who? D-Will!
jazz fan you fool kidd 2 finals nash no finals cuz he gets destroyed when he faces tony parker and marion cant shoot of the dribble
CP3 averaged 22 while shooting 50%, how many guards shoot 50%...
Umm, most of those are floaters and lay-ups how many guards can average 50% FG percentage shooting floaters and lay-ups I think a lot.
But I'll take cp3 just barely. He controls the game better and does'nt settle as much on offense. He's also a little better on d. DWilliams is bigger and a better shooter. He also is probably better at pushing the ball in transition.
It's a really tough decision. Like I said above... I'd go with D. Will, because I like big and strong point guards. I didn't like the way Dahntay Jones was able to push Paul around during the playoffs. It REALLY bothered him. He also struggled guarding Billups. Paul's numbers were down across the board versus Denver.
On the other hand, Paul put up better numbers during the regular season. I mean, Paul's FG% and 3-PT% were higher than D. Will's. Paul shot 50% FG and 36% 3-PT compared to 47% FG and 31% 3-PT for D. Will. Paul averaged more points and assists. He even averages way more rebounds. It's not even close. Paul 5.5 boards compared to D. Will's 2.9. The steals aren't close either. D. Will also averaged more turnovers. I also think Paul has more leadership ability.
It's seriously a toss-up because they're both great/franchise point guards. I'm going with D. Will though.
paul 22.8ppg 11apg 5.5rpg 2.8spg williams 19.4ppg 10.7ppg 2.9rpg 1.1spg
D Will is the better. He always kills it on O, but he never gets abused on the other end. CP3 can't guard many of the leagues bigger guards. Not to mention, CP3's stats are inflated due to the fact he has the ball in his hands all game (just like Queen James). DWill runs an actual offense. Only thing you could say CP3 does better, is what, get steals (who cares, I'll take great D any day). So without any doubt, DWill is in a league all by himself.
I've watched Williams play a lot of times the last year cuz my favorite teams are in the NW and there really isn't nothing exciting about him. He doesn't seem to play with the attitude of a playmaker. Chris Paul does. When you watch Paul your going to get excited. However, nothing about williams really excites me. He has the same skill set as Paul. Equal shooting. Paul's a better passer. Equal floor vision. Equal leadership. But Paul's attitude about himself makes him better. He goes out there and it's his game to control. Williams is often times considered the 2nd or 3rd best player on the court. That almost never happens with Paul. It's the way he plays.I believe that is why Pauls better. Go ahead and argue but that's my belief.
great d cj watson had 38 on him
top 5 pgs paul, billups, healthy baron davis,williams tony parker
You lost me after "there really isn't nothing exciting about him".
C'mon. There's a reason that Williams isn't one of the people mentioned when a Clippers fan is deciding on which player they want to see play against the clippers live this season...lol
Chris Paul gets to the rim better, can create offense for himself and for others better. If Deron Williams wanted to lead the NBA in assists, his points would be sacrificed. If he wanted to lead the Jazz in points, his assists would be sacrificed. Chris Paul can lead the NBA in assists and lead his team in points without sacrificing in either area. If you look past stats, Chris Paul is more likely to take over games and is a better leader.
Do you not notice the BALL STAYs IN CP's HANDS ALL GAME. He should have more assist and more looks at the basket, its just PLAIN LOGIC. If you can't understand that, then I'm done talking!
Iguodala that's exactly what I'm saying. D-will is not a reason to go see a basketball game. CP3 is. There's a reason for that. Thank you
New Orleans and Utah run two completely different offenses. Utah has a system while New Orlean's runs a pick and roll w/ CP3 every play. I almost feel like CP3 has the ball much more than D. Will. It's almost sad to a point because it wears CP3 down and when he goes out of the game, they SUCK. Their offense is TOO dependent on him.
his crossover ankle breakers are enough of a reason to see d-will.
Blame him for being able to get to the basket at will. Blame him for being the guy the Hornets run everything through, for being a good player. Just because the ball is always in his hands shouldnt mean he is better or worse than another player.
Chris Paul definitely has a better crossover than Deron Williams. I know you dont think you can say Deron Williams has a nice crossover and think you made a point sir.
wrong. thier is no right or wrong answer on this topic. they are both great pgs paul runs new orleans offence great dwill runs utah offence great.
You do realise that Paul embelishes his role as the leader and playmaker on his team. If he didn't have the skill set to do that then New Orleans would be god aweful. Do you honestly think Williams would want that role? Maybe, but would he be able to do it like Paul? Doubt it. He isn't considered a top 5 player by almost everyone for a reason. Also I'd like to point out that minusing points for every single comment I make even if I doesn't say anything that makes a point isn't a good way to prove something...
BOTH OF US are wrong then. How you gon say IM run when you were discussing it too?
Chris Paul is great but I think If I was building a team, I rather have D-Will. He's bigger and stronger and he can pass like Paul.
It's a matter of preference. If you like bigger stronger point guards you go with Williams. If you like smaller quicker point guards then you go with Paul. The benefit of Williams is that offensively he won't be pushed around by strong defenders while defensively he's big enough to guard shooting guards. The benefit of Paul is that he's a little better at pushing the ball up the court since he's faster and he can get into the lane more easily. Based on their skills I would have to say I prefer Williams because he's a little more versatile and he has some of the same traits as Chauncey Billups, my favorite player. But if I wanted to build a franchise around one of them I would want Paul for the reasons dwat4444 stated. Of course if I already had good leadership on my team I would probably go Williams.
I think Williams is the leader of Utah and his numbers are notch below Franchise players but I think if he had to, he could be a 20ppg,10apg guy
Edit : he is already there and I don't see a big difference in his and Paul's numbers
williams is a stud and he's stronger...but it's not all about strenghth
i've always loved cp3 just for the craftiness and for those who say deron is a better shooter...i'd say it's dead even in that regard
chris paul got alot of assist from chandler....all you have to do is throw that thing up and he'll get it
but in terms of a pure point guard...it's paul
in terms of a scoring point or combo...it's williams
i don't think either is better than the other though...just different
Dude that was amazing. Deron "could" be a 20/10 guy if he had to. That is pretty much the attitude of everybody when it comes to Deron Williams. Thanks for looking up the stats, because not everybody does.
If you remember he was playing injured for most of the season before the all star break. His numbers weren't as good and that is why he didn't make the team. When he got healthy his numbers shot back up. He averaged more assists than Paul two years ago, and was very close to his numbers now.
iguodala9 said that Deron can't lead his team in points and lead the league in assists but he only averaged 3 points and .3 assists less than Paul did.
deron lead his team in points and assists this year!
we know that.
All in all, I think the Cap is not huge between Williams and Paul. I rather take D-Will
I don't blame anybody for not knowing too much about D-Will. Utah is a smaller marketed team and also one of ther most hated teams in the league. Probably because of the fans. They can be pretty brutal down there.
with many of u to many times before. and for those who say chris paul is the better SHOOTER u are all idiots. u obviously dont watch deron williams play if u think that. and even those of u who say cp3 is better on D again u are idiots. jus becuase u average 2 steals or watever cp3 averages doesnt mean he plays better D. if u get 3 steals but ur man still drops 30 on u then u obviously didnt do that good on defense. matter of fact u basically blow it if u think thats true. So many of u who think u kno basketball get so caught up in stats. U think becuase a guy has this on paper that he's better. you guys completely forget about the fact that there are coaches who run a certain system and that players who play in a system will contribute in different ways. as nthegoodlife said earlier cp3 has the ball in his hands the whole game. of course he will get more shots or more assist. thats why i think that the jazz drafted deron for a certain reason. they realized chris paul could not run their offense or wouldnt be very effective doing that. i guesss when it comes down 2 it we can never have a real debate about who the better guard is. when i say deron destroys cp everytime they play someone else makes up a lie and says cp3 didnt play hard or jus any bull$hit. basically we will never know who's better as long as ppl are not willing to admit their fav player has flaws. Im a dwill fan but i also will admit that he's not the best player in the league and that he has things he needs 2 work on. but when i say deron is th ebest pg in the league i do mean it.
I was a huge fan of both guys when they came into the league. I remember thinking wow, the Hawks are going to be so lucky to get one of these guys, then they go out and draft Marvin Williams. Initially I thought Deron was better, but now I am going with CP3. Both guys have improved tremendously. I also think both are excellent defenders, but in different ways. Paul's shooting was ridiculous this past year. He still wills his teams to wins despite not having much to work with. He's also younger than Deron. Deron is working with 3 former all stars on his team and a hall of fame coach. I think if you made the guys switch teams, Utah would still be really good with Paul. I think New Orleans would be worse, but I think Deron would average a lot more points there as well.
Williams was the perfect choice for the Jazz with the 3rd pick and he runs their offense to protection. Im also sure that New Orleans is happy with their pick.
if the ball is in pauls hands most the time then he will have better stats because everybody stats revolve around him most the game but isnt that a pgs jobs.......but the ball is in his hand alot since he is pg already...but i like d will better n but i like cp3 alot to but i like lebron better
I said lead the NBA in assists and HIS TEAM in points. Deron Williams will never lead the league in assists and his team in ppg in the same year.
point blank and simple.