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The Knicks Will Regret Their # 8th Selection of Jordan Hill

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Well Come on...i didnt mean

Well Come on...i didnt mean 18-10 rookie season.

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LMAO...

"I never said a career 18-10 type player"..... "I said i can see him like 18-10 type guy around that area." LOL... What's the freaking difference? Some of y'all are crazy....

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LMAO....your a idiot. Jordan

LMAO....your a idiot.

Jordan Hill could be a solid player who for a good amount of season can be a guy who averages 18 points and 10 rebounds...

There are you happy?

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how is going to do that...

how is going to do that... the only way that is going to happen is if in his first game he goes for 18 and 10 and the only way i see that happening is if the knicks go to an 5 or 6 overtime period game..

knickboy... like i said just say U GOT EXCITED and went wayyyyy overboard on this one

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first off... would ny want

first off... would ny want the so called "moxy, swagger, and charisma" brandon jennings has??? probably not... second off one of jordan hill's biggest setbacks right now is his conditioning... and playing in the D'antoni offense might be a little tough with all the running hes doing... just give him a little bit... you wont regret it... summer league means nothing...

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Whatever, we will see in the

Whatever, we will see in the NBA season.

I think he can be a legit 18-10 option for like 4-6 seasons.....

in his rookie season, he will come off the bench and be a guy who can average a 10ppg, 6rpg and 1bpg guy

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Gator go look at the numbers for one...

For 2 look at what he provides for teams. Rebounding, decent D (decent only), and about a 15 foot jump shot with an occasional post move... SOLID... But you talk about FA and you fail to realize, Andre Miller, Felton, Odom, Sessions, Williams.... Are FA too and no one is knocking down their door right now... Chill... He will find a home... He's just undervalued IDK if its the attitude he has or what but he can't stay with a team. But he gives you solid production. And it DOES matter who had more hype out of college or who was the better player out of college because Jordan Hill hasn't played a min. versus NBA talent and you guys are already saying he will be WAY better than Drew and Horace Grant... So, I went by what we can ONLY go by is when they were at this point in their careers. And Drew Gooden IS considered the better player from that stand point.

Y'all just need to calm down and realize what WE'VE been saying before this draft. The Draft is weak before it and after it, it's still weak. Jordan Hill last year wouldn't be NEAR the Lottery and this year he could have went as high as 4 and some of you are saying he's a 18 and 10 guy? Go watch some damn basketball... And Knickboy go UNDERSTAND the NBA and the business of it... Only how you can sign 2 superstars is IF teams do a sign and trade... You can't go over the salary cap to sign players without their bird rights... The Knicks will still be in the hole with Jefferies and Curry... Two players NO ONE will take... For what? People are shedding for 2010 too or for lower luxury tax. You guys will have to take on players with longer contracts for them to give you a favor like that. Or trade WITH a player someone wants... Two players I can think of Nate and Lee... Other than that your ROSTER SUCKS... NO way, shape, or form you can look at that roster and say we are contenders this year...

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Dhamp

Why would I take your points away for no reason? Your points are low enough, you lose points with the dumb stuff you say...Devo being drafted, Nuggets beating Lakers, Lakers winning next 3 ships, Dwight overrated. Maybe if half your posts didn't suck you wouldn't lose points. Hahaha

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uhhh. tuck go check out the

uhhh. tuck go check out the salaries of NY after 2010.....we have alot of cap space and we can sign to FA's

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See...

You know nothing.... You have enough room to sign one FRANCHISE player not two... And still that's only one spot on your roster. What bothers me about you Knicks fans is that you guys fail to realize you need a supporting cast. And players aren't willing to take the minimum salary... I already did the numbers on you guys a minute ago. But since YOU fail to understand I will spit it out again. The Knicks TODAY have a number of contracts on their roster that exceeds 2010. You have Wilson Chandler, Jordan Hill, Eddy Curry, Jareed Jefferies, Dano Gallinari and Toney Douglas... That's about 27-29 million there... The salary cap is going to be about 55 mil. so, "IF" you guys sign ANY one player to the max deal (which their respective team will). That's instantly 17 million off of what you guys have... So, thats what? About 47t Million gone? Now, you have 8 million left to give, Amare, Bosh, Wade, or LBJ aren't taking that. So, who is next Micheal Redd? Tracy? I'm sure if both come back to have solid years next year 8 million wouldn't be enough and you have to complete your roster... And "IF' y'all use your MLE this year you WONT have it next year. So, that Idea is gone... And No you can NOT sign a FA first then sign back your players i.e. Nate and D. Lee... So, don't bring that ish up....

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You know nothing.... You

You know nothing.... You have enough room to sign one FRANCHISE player not two

you probably can't read. How many legit Franchise players are there in 2010? one (James)

The Cap is going down next season to about 55. mil and the Knicks will have Duhon (6 mil), Darko (7 mil), Harrington (9 mil) and Hughes (12 mil) off the books .that's over half the cap.

If we give anyone the Max deal....that would be James.

Trust Almond will take the Minimum deal or go to Europe.....

And No you can NOT sign a FA first then sign back your players i.e. Nate and D. Lee...

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? if im correct, didnt the Mavs offer Gortat the MLE then Resign Kidd?

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STEP YOUR GAME UP!!!!

MLE is considered a Mid-Level Exception... Which key word is Exception... Meaning Exception to the salary cap... You can sign a player once every two years to a MLE and still be OVER the salary cap (or if the Knick use theirs this year Under it). And trust me, Amare, Wade, and Bosh are getting the MAX deal. If you think they aren't then you're dumb...

But here's what you DON'T see with your team. YOU are OVER the Salary Cap... If you noticed I didn't mention all the players you just named that are coming off your books. BUT, you still have players that are STILL under contract thru 2010 and your team's salary comes out to be almost 30 mil. which is killing the Knicks and their chances of getting more than one Superstar...

What is there NOT to understand? You don't know how to count? Unless you guys unload Curry or Jefferies on somebody you won't sign any pair Wade, LeBron, Bosh, or Amare... But I'm STILL trying to remind you, You need at LEAST 12 players on a team... And the players that you will have aren't enticing enough to play with...

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RIGHT BACK AT YA!!

OK...what if we don't use the MLE?

We will still have 34 mil off the books...Excuse me...43 mil off the books (forgot Mobley's contract which is still on the books)

We have some young players. I'm not saying " OH we are getting WADE,BOSH AND LBJ!" I know that's not gonna happen but we can still add 2 good players and maybe a 1 max deal.

Let's say we add Lebron (Max deal) and Joe Johnson? Then maybe when Curry's deal is off the books, we can add another good player in 2011?

Right now...the players aren't enticing right now. What if Gallo steps up in year 2? What if Chandler steps him game up like he did last year? What if Hill and Douglas show these players are solid rookies? We don't know...we gotta wait.

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Ok lets do that...

If you don't use the MLE... What superstar will take 5 mil a year? The MLE is just going to get you a role player... That's number one... OK....

Number two, What you seem to be blind about is OTHER TEAMS... And how about their CURRENT teams? They all can get MAX deals WITH more years with their current team... And Joe Johnson isn't about to take 8 million dollars... Lamar Odom isn't trying to take 9 and you think JJ is going to take 8? LOL... With that roster? LOL...

And I DON'T care how MUCH money is coming off by 2010... You guys WILL have 30 Million in salary still... WHAT? Are you dumb? Get the contracts that you are losing out of your head and understand that you STILL have contracts past 2010... And with a 55 million dollar salary cap is hard to get 2 max players...

And still that roster ISN'T nice... STOP...

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I liked the Douglas pick

I liked the Douglas pick before. Now that he has shown ability to play the point I love the pick. He is a good defensive player and scorer(even though he hasnt shown it in summer league.) Now he has shown he can play the point I think he will have a successful NBA career.

I never really liked the Hill pick though. I always wondered why people raved about him. He used to disappear in games and he is doing it now. He couldnt do anything in the paint against Daye or Summers. He did ok against Thabeet who I think will be a bust anyways. He is weaker than I thought in the paint and he has the bad habit of playing outside too much. He hasnt rebounded very well either.

I wanted to draft Jennings and Brown but now it looks like Summers was a steal.

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why do we waste so much time

on talking about a team with 0% chance of playoffs? answer: because 3/4 of the people on this site are knick fans with low IQs.

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You just said on the other

You just said on the other post how you dont hate the Knicks but you continue to bash them?

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because i hate you, the fan.

because i hate you, the fan.

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Ok...Im not a average

Ok...Im not a average fan...and I just asked to stop hating on the Knicks...

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Dont have to be a ass about

Dont have to be a ass about it..

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