houston - too many injuries
memphis - zach randolph
minnesota - if rubio stays in europe
new jersey - too young
new york - who is good on that team if lee doesn't sign
sacramento - they suck
lee will most likely stay i bet. the knicks could make the playoffs. btw, sacramento doesn't suck, they're young and inexperienced. don't be so harsh about them.
oh...and even if rubio could play for minnesota this year..it wouldn't mean they'd be in the playoffs...minnesota still has some work to do.
lets be honest... if we work backwards u can get a good idea of who will be in and out of the playoffs.
in the west there is only one playoff spot up for grabs IN: LA, S.A , DAL, POR, N.O, UTAH, DEN,
possiblities of the last spot: phx.(hungry amare/nash$$), hou (too tough to count out), lac. (baron doesnt have back to back bad season and has enough vets)
in the East playoff bound : Orl., Bos, Cle., Atl.,
possibilities for the last 4 spots: Mia., Tor., Was., Chi., Phil., Det.
So the final list of the teams in NBA with ZERO chance of making the playoffs(sorry to fans in these cities but maybe next yr)
- Mem. / G.S / Sac. / Okc / Minn. / N.Y / Mil. / Ind. / N.J / Cha.
The Clippers. I know they have some talent, but they still need to play as a team, run sets, play defense and stay healthy. Blake Griffen isn't enough to make the Clippers a playoff team, at least in his first year.
why are people giving points to d-grizzy? He said the knicks could make the playoffs, do you guys actually believe that? The knicks are one of the three worst teams in the nba.
Why do the knicks have zero chance of passing a powerhouse like detroit, washington or philly for a spot again? Last time i checked none of those teams were really that good and there will be a sub 500 team or 2 making the playoffs in the east. Noone in the east is completely out.
its not about b. griffin.. if he can come in and just be a "garbage/ energy guy" they will be just fine... lets not forget that when b. davis is focused he is one of the top pg in the game... he lead g.s to the playoffs and a win over first seeded dal. a couple of years back. and along with b. davis, u have m. camby a great help defender... a. thorhton a very versatile sf who very well maybe the l. odom of the clippers and e. gordon who can fill it up... yes they may need an addition here or there but this team is good enough to compete for the 8th spot
And how are they one of the THREE worst? When they had SEVEN teams finish behind them last year. I know that not a lot but the knicks actually improved this offseason and got their 6th pick back who didn't play a lot last year. People really love to &$#%#&@! on the Knicks its pathetic. The Knicks COULD make the playoffs they had a good chance last year until they got hurt and had to play a seven man rotation. People just assume knicks are the worst team in the nba because they like it that way because fans of small market teams hate NY.
the days of multiple sub 500 teams making the playoffs is OVER! i sorry to break that news to u bkballer and with that the hopes of the knicks looking like there in the playoff race is out of the window.. one thing about the nba is that it is easy to tell the contenders from the pretenders and if u think the knicks are going to make the playoffs with w. chandler as ur go to guy... i dont know what to say!
you are a very uneducated fan who just enjoys bashing the knicks. They have a solid core of players who competed last year even though there was a lot of mid season trades and had you watched games you would see that they were so depleted that they had to dress injured players just so they were allowed to play. They improved this offseason and im not guaranteeing a spot but i promise you they will be in the race for one. Just out of curious what team are you a fan of?
its sounds like u've had a tough day defending the knicks or maybe something else... but the truth is the truth! yes u guys get back ur 6th pick from last season who may or may not have a good season the fact is he is young and u can't rely on young players in the nba unless ur name is l. james or t. duncan!!! and no one or atleast i'm not hating on N.Y b/c its a bigger city than were i'm from ( although i'm from Toronto which is about the 6th biggest in the nba so i'm not really from a small city) its b/c they have a lack of talent and knick fans don't want to see the truth about there team. to me i think u should have more of a problem with me putting a team like the Bobcats on the ZERO list b/c there team is more talented than the Knicks and may have a chance with a few key moves
i do think the bobcats have a chance, i also love how u automatically put toronto so high when they stunk last year just as bad. the hedo move may or may not work out for you guys i in no way see u as a lock for the playoffs. Lastly i do know u have it in for the knicks not just because of know but because ive seen a bunch of your threads sayin this nonsense. How about you worry about your team who by my coutn has SUCKED just as bad and has never done anything relevant in their franchise history.
answer me this?? 10 seconds left in the game knicks down by 2.... who gets the ball on that team??
d. lee? n. robinson? l. hughes? gallineri? darko...lol? sorry about that one
UMM your forgetting that we have al harrington who averaged 21 pts per game last season, nate robinson is also very solid when it matters he averaged 17 off the bench, david lee is very efficient, gallinari has already shown that he is one of the best pure shooters in the NBA while only playing 28 games, trust me he can hit the last shot. And i am not saying the knicks are an amazing team they are clearly not, they are very far from being considered even in the top 15 in the league, fortunately the east is not set after the first 4-5 teams and don't be too shocked if they sneak into the playoffs. And i can DEFINITELY see them finishing better than the raptors, who are going to lose their only player that matters next year anyways in bosh.
wow!! all 13 yrs of there HISTORY... just about the last time the knicks made the PLAYOFFS! and i'm glad ur a fan of mine but if u were paying attention to most of my threads if i did have something negative to say about the knicks its mostly b/c u guys(knick fans) are so easy to get on there heels and just makes for good conversion b/c u guys are really passionate which i have no problem with... but the fact is the truth is the truth and no matter how big ur city is ( something the knicks fans always seem to need to mention.. why? ) ur team is not that talented.
how did the knicks get better, by losing their best scorer, and could possibly lose their best rebounder? You are clearly a knick fan who can't deal with the fact that the team is playing for 2010. Im a pacer fan, they have about 20% chance of making it. The knicks have no players on grangers level.
the knicks had the 8th worst record last year and the 7 teams below them are very young teams.
worst team in the leauge: Kings, 2nd worst: Knicks
Last time i checked before their run last year the raptors were 2-3 games behind the knicks with about 2 weeks to play. And the fact that you got a very very over rated hedo who you over paid for because he had a good playoffs due to the way the magic are build with talent at every position, while losing marion and parker DOES NOT suddenly make you a great team.
Lee is definitely not going anywhere nobody can afford him. Unless nate goes to greece, which i don't see happening hes staying as well. And saying the pacers have a chance of making the playoffs is just as bad as me saying the knicks might make the playoffs.
i PROMISE you knicks don't finish last in the east thats just absurd
and the whole giving me negative points thing is unneccessary that stuff is just stupid
first of all hedo is overrated, but would be the best player on the knicks. second of all, don't put the pacers down because they are from a smaller city. third of all the pacers 10th man would start for the knicks. fourth of all the knicks suck.
u can see them losing bosh?? interesting.. well if u knew the guy and the type of ppl he associates with u would know that the guy is a straight shooter and just like d. wade wants management to put a solid team around him before he puts his name to paper that will tie him to a team in his prime years... the guy loves the city and so far thinks the moves are bring the team in the right direction.. especially getting a guy who can make something happen at the back end of the shot clock and as well suring up the back up point guard position and i'll give u a early prediction that there will be at some point in the season a call for j. jack to start over calderon b/c of his lack of defence
they were second to last in 2009, and I know you aren't about to say they are better than the wizards.
i never said anything about hating on pacers cuz they are a small city idn where u got that from i could care less where they are from, they blow. big deal they have one player that is good, the rest of the team is pathetic. what 10th man would start on the knicks again?? jeff foster?, roy hibbert? travis deiner? whos your second best player troy murphy? really cmon dont tell me my knicks suck and then come with some garbage like that.
second to last to 9th was a tiny difference. knicks tanked the last few weeks bringing in and trying out d leagers because their roster was so depleted from playing a 7 man rotation, if u remember they were 10th with less than 10 games to play. Im not sayin knicks are great im saying all three of us are pretty much in the same boat and for some reason you guys think the knicks r so far behind your teams.
i never said hedo was a great player but he can make a play at the end of the shot clock and i would rather have the ball in his hand than a. harrington (mr. fantasy himself) i dont know how u stand having that guy on ur team... he must have one of the worst shot selection in the league.. and i hope u can agree with me on that atleast bkballer?
who the fudge is the knicks best player? Answer: lee
What is lee good at? Answer: rebounding
Who is a better rebounder and player than lee? Answer: Murphy
yes i think bosh leaves either to miami, cleveland, NJ or even your favorite place NYC =]
Lee led the league in double doubles, that means something.He had a strech where he had a double double for 38 out of 41 games. Averaging 16 and 11 while playing out of position is pretty impressive. Al harrington is often over looked but he averaged 21 points. Nate would have been 6th man of the year had the knicks won more games. We have more promising rookies or young players in chandler, gallo, hill, douglas. Who the pacers have Hansbrough? Roy hibbert is a stiff who blows and brandon rush is decent at best.
if were going to disagree atleast make some sense doing it... the fact is there are only a hand full of really good teams in the league and everyone else is terrible/ young or just okay...
and bkballer the raptors/knicks and pacers are not in the same boat... the raptors tried to make a big move last season to get to the next level and it didn't work out the two years before were in the playoffs and odds are they are back in this season again... as for the knicks to be honest i can't remember the last time they made the playoffs so that speaks for itself and the pacers while they haven't made the playoffs for a few yrs i would rather have there roster with a few talented players than the knicks who are really just praying for the 2010 free agencies period to begin
some one has to score on that god awful team. plus hansbrough is better than those d-leaugers on the knicks. I don't like hibbert either, maybe there is hope for our friendship yet.
sorry i didnt name names....
pacers.... have a better pg than anything the knicks have in t.j ford.. b. rush is going to be a solid role player who can do alittle of everything ala anthony parker... and of course they have the best wing player out of the three teams we all represent in d. granger which i'm sure u can agree with bkballer
haha mayeb if you say my knicks arent the second worst team in the nba we can be friends.
And as for the past i 100% agree with you that the knicks were pathetic the last decade i cant agree with you more you are definitely right. However thats because we had horrendous management and the reason you can see knick fans getting slightly optimistic is because we finally have a good manager who ryan will agree with me on because he was part of the good pacer teams. The knicks are still going to struggle but they are an improving team and i still firmly believe they have a SHOT for that 8 seed just as much as the pacers and yes the raptors do.
On another note don't you miss when pacer knick games had some meaning to them and we had that good rivalry? Hopefully we can get that again soon.
I do like granger and ford is pretty solid too but other than that im not a big fan of the rest of their roster.
murphy is their 2nd best player, dunleavy is their 3rd best player. Murphy was second in the nba in rebouding and second in 3 point shooting. impressive.
There is only one way to decide if we are friends: What are your thoughts on Rubio?
extremely impressive, i guess we cant really get a winner of this arguement until at least december ill be sure to check back with you guys when my knicks are doing better than the extremely impressive pacers squad. And btw no way we finish below the nets and bucks so i think im pretty safe not being the WORST team.
haha i think flynn will be better
If there was a Church of Rubio I would attend it and sit front row. Also flynn is average. He will be like felton or some one boring like that.
haha i guess no friendship for us. Im ok with that tho. We should do this again sometime tho, probably when the knicks beat the pacers =]
i dont think ill still be posting 30 years from now, so no can do.
you're a clever guy now im kinda upset we can never be friends. well okay take it easy guy
so should i call you or...
T wolves obv wont make it but they have a much better chance doing it with Johnny Flynn than they would with RUbio. Any PG in the league would take Rubio to the rim every time and most likely lock him down on defense.
its not you its me
rubio is a modern day Jesus. Everything about him says superstar, or at least calderon's much cooler clone.
Teams that wont make it
Teams that Will make it
Everyone except NJ and NY
Anyone who thinks the Knicks are the top 3 worst teams in the league is clueless when it comes to the NBA.
Don't go by the 14th worst record in the East they were 4 games behind the 9th place team.
How are the Nets, Pacers, Bucks, Bobcats better than the Knicks in the East?
Nets they traded Vince Carter for Lee in the long run that will be a great move but right now Lee isn't as good. Alston will complaine and maybe get traded. They still haven't improved the PF position, and playing young guys at 3 positions doesn't make you a playoff team
Pacers added Tyler H, Jones and most likely lose Jack, Daniels this team has no bench either. Team is weak besides Granger.
Bucks lost RJ & Charlie V adding Jennings won't replace their scoring and neither will Joe Alexander.
Bobcats only added Gerald Henderson so far and might lose Felton. How good can a team with Raja Bell, Vlad Radmonvic, Diop & Nazr be?
The Knicks aren't an elite team or close but last year they had no back up pg, Nate was the SG for half the year.
Qrich is gone they added bigs with Darko, Hill and Curry will play. Lee could end up staying one year as no team is offering him big money. Starting line up of Duhon, Hughes, Chandler, Harrington, Lee is better than plenty of teams and
Galinari, Hill, Douglas, Curry could be coming off the bench tell me how those teams have better rosters.
The West is improved and too tough for teams like Sac, Minn, OKC, Houston to contend.
@deshawynkey91- you said the Warrios have a 0% chance of making the playoffs. Dude you are way off. I say they have an 75% chance of making the playoffs. I bet you have never even watched the majority of the players on that roster play before lmao. I mean the Warriors are loaded. They have a top notch combo guard in Ellis. Curry is an excellent shooter who can also play PG or SG. Morrow is very underrated, he can score. Belineli is a great shooter. We all know about Stephen Jackson. Brandon Wright is long and will be better this year. Anthony Randolph is a monster on both ends of the floor. Biedrins is a very underrated Center. Not to mention Turiaf is a great backup in the post. Warriros have way more talent then a lot of teams in the West. Haha that is my only real beef though. The rest of your list is probably pretty accurate.
get off GS's jockstrap. the warriors are talented OFFENSIVELY, but they are almost all defensive liabilities. I don't care about statistics, as far as getting a stop late in the game against the playoff contenders~ the warriors don't stand a chance. A team that puts some combination of Wright, Randolph, Jackson, Morrow, Ellis, Curry out on the court along with Biedrins/Turiaf has no chance defensively.
This is the NBA~ everyone can score, playoff teams play defense.
That said, I wouldn't give GS 0% chance of making the playoffs, but 75% is way too high. Don't get over excited about SL. Curry can't even hit at a high clip there, which means it's going to take even longer for him to transition when he gets to the league.
And also, with or without Rubio, the wolves have no chance of making the playoffs unless Flynn is CP3- and he's not. I've watched a lot of Twolves games, and the are one of the most garbage squads in the league, especially after trading Foye and Miller, their 2nd and 3rd best players.