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Yeah, I guess Salmons probably would make a better two guard than a 3 with Deng playing there, I just really didn't like that Gibson pick, I really thought Tony Douglas would have been a good pick there or even Nick Calathes or Budinger,

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JoeWolf1- I agree with you

JoeWolf1- I agree with you about Gibson definitely. It was stupid to pick him when they already had Thomas. A guy like Blair would've made more sense. Calathes would've been a great pick.

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you made a good point that i

you made a good point that i never really though about double...even though i dont think hedo is as good as carter he did cause orlando to have match up problems for other teams and those same match up problems wont exist now that hedo is gone..and gator im half wit you half not wit you..im willing to bet cmario will get alot better because history tells us that rookies tend to play alot better in there second year then in there first when they are getting the playing time...another thing thats been overhyped is beasley and playing no defense..yes he isnt the best defender but i watched alot of games(although late since i cant watch most live when im not in the country) and alot of rookies played bad defense but wasnt talked about much because of how people said from the get go that beasley needs to mature which ment he was w3atched alot closer...its gonna be the same case with jennings..youll hear just about every lil thing wrong that he does more then you would hear about another rookie...a couple of rookies whos defense was suspect was rose,randolph,speights,darnell aruther. i think his defense will get better since he does have the tools just like most rookies though it may take some time the same way melo and lebron needed time to step up there defensive game. rondo is another player whos game took a step foward from year one to year 2. to be honest mario had a very good first year and definatly didnt hurt the heat

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Courtney Lee 6'5" SG 8pts

Courtney Lee 6'5" SG 8pts 2reb 1ast 1stl 45%FG 40%3pt 83%FT PER 10.8 25minutes
Hedo 6'10" SF 17pts 5reb 5ast 41%FG 36%3pts 81%FT PER 14.8 37minutes
Alston 6'2" PG 12pts 3reb 5ast 1stl 39%FG 34%3pt 75%FT PER 13.8 32minutes

Bass 6'8" PF 9pts 5reb 1ast 1blk 50%FG 87%FT PER 16.5 19minutes
Anderson 6'10" PF 7pts 5reb 1ast 1stl 39%FG 37%3pt 85%FT PER 13.6 20minutes
Carter 6'6" SG 21pts 5reb 5ast 1stl 44%FG 39%3pt 82%FT PER 19.4 37minutes

Look at what Carter compared to what Hedo did playing the same amount of minutes. Carter is clearly better. Also Hedo had way more help around him.

It is clear people are really sleeping on Bass. Considering what he did in Dallas playing only 19 minutes was impressive. He is clearly WAY MORE productive than Alston or Lee.

Lets just add up the combined stats also. Together Lee, Hedo, & Alston in a total of 94 minutes produce 37pts 10reb 11ast 2stl
Meanwhile Bass, Anderson, & Carter put up these stats in 76 minutes 37pts 15reb 7ast 3stl 1blk

Clearly the Magic are a better team now. They are more productive & have better size.

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im not uderstanding how bass

im not uderstanding how bass is CLEARLY wayyy for productive then lee..you are taking into account that lee put up those numbers while playing with 4 all stars on his team right while bass did his numbers with one all star on his team? and you arent taking account that match ups is a VERY VERY improtant thing come playoff time..it will hurt not to have the same match up advantage that they had last year..you of all people should no that its not just stats that tells you if a team is better..though i think the magic are better as a regular season team i do know for a fact that they lose the advantage of creating the same bad match ups for other teams...and im not sure peopel are sleeping on bass..yes he will be a pretty good player but hes no allstar now or future nor a star

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Anderson is better than

Anderson is better than people think. Also it is still to early to say who has improved when you still have a lot of big name free agents out there. Teams that do not have money are playing the wait and see. I could see a post of who has helped themselves out the most.

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They can still cause matchup

They can still cause matchup problems easy. You don't think Carter playing minutes at SF & Pietrus at SG & Lewis at PF doesn't cause matchup problems? The Magic have the depth and a variety of different skill players that they can change up lineups depending on the team they are facing. The Magic didn't have a powerful PF last year...Now that have Bass....now other teams can't cause Orlando matchup problems

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yea but not as big of a

yea but not as big of a match up then a 6'10 sf who can shoot and post up ...in this situation yeah they gained but they also lost they didnt just gain carter while keeping there match up problems..and when you move carter to the three the toher teams there can post up and score easier on the block then if they had a 6'10 guy there ..you see what im saying..and what alot of peopel dont know is all that post banging takes awhole lot out of youre legs when that 4th quarter rolls around which affects youre shot. like i said i think they will be a better team but cant cause the match up problems that they could before

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I agree somewhat... If a

I agree somewhat... If a shooter loses his legs things go downhill quick. Also yeah banging in the post against bigger players will wear you down.

They don't have to have Vince guard SFs though. Pietrus can guard them.

Also the only team last year that they really caused matchup problems for was Cleveland. They will still beat the Cavs.

PG- Nelson vs. Mo
SG- Carter vs. Parker
SF- Lewis vs. LeBron
PF- Bass vs. Varejao
C- Howard vs. Shaq

Orlando doesn't have to worry about the matchups. They have a slight edge at every position except SF IMO. Also Orlando has the better bench now.

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will people

stop talking about signing ben gordon and Charlie V bad should of waited for 2010, FA's next year the big one are kmostly going to stay with there team because bird years they can pay them more so getting gordon and charlie V was good becuase teams like the knicks are not going to get anybodt if there lucky get one person by way over paying them like 22mil

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