LeBron: Not a leader
LeBron has all the ability in the world, but the one thing he lacks might hold the Cavaliers back from winning a championship; Leadership.
It's sad when Mo Williams has to yell at you in the playoffs to stop &$#%#&@!ing about your supposed "elbow" and man the f up, when you're supposed to be the leader of the team.
It's sad when you are in a huge playoff series and you're whole team seems generally uninterested during the game. LeBron needs to realize it's not up to Varejao or anyone else to provide the emotion/spark for this team. He needs to grab them and tell them Lets Go.
It's sad when after the game the team is just as uninterested as they were during the game. LeBron didn't talk about the obvious lack of performance or effort. He didn't say anything to motivate his teammates when they need it most.
This one reason is why I still think Kobe is the best player. Kobe leads his team. LeBron has not learned this yet, and he better learn this very soon or else it could be a Boston/Orlando ECF. He's still young so it's hard to blame him, but he's been around in the playoffs for a few years now, he knows how this works.
I can't wait to watch game 3, and I know personally I am hoping for more of what I saw in game 2.
LeBron James is the Justin Bieber of the NBA. His image is completely manufactured.
Im not trying to compare him to Kobe, but Kobe never complains about injuries and just goes out and plays, he's also serious and never goofs around, and when he is on the bench he is always coaching his teammates.
Lebron needs to stop goofing off, stop complaining, and lead his team.
lmao @ being the Justin Bieber of the NBA.... So true.
Hey let lil justin bieber enjoy his 15 minutes..its almost up..lol..i dont think he lacks leadership..he encourages guys or pull them aside and tell them what they did wrong..Alot of guys say they've heard Jordan & Kobe cursing out teammates in front of everyone..Jordan has been rumored to punch teammates just for messing up in PRACTICE!!! Even though the Celtics played well monday night..They didnt play well enuff to stop the Cavs from making a late charge..Mo was a no show..None of the Cavs guards could stop Rondo..Coach Brown even tried forward Jamario Moon on him..Cleveland's entire team seemed uninterested..They let Boston outrebounded them and the Celtics were 1 of the worst rebounding teams in the league during the regular season..Its the coach's job to have his team prepared..It can sometimes lead to turmoil if the star player constantly tries to control things......
Everyone seems to forget that NBA teams have head coaches as well, players are leaders and motivators but so are coaches. There's a reason Phil Jackson has 10 championships and Mike Brown is only there as long as Lebron wants, Its not LeBron's fault that Mo Williams goes 1-9 from the field. This is the NBA playoffs, if the Cavs need LeBron to get them ready then they shouldn't be there. Mike Brown is a whipping boy imitating as a coach.
All you kobe **** riders just need to shut up. So much of what your saying is wrong, I don't even know where to start
start somewhere then
(Sigh)..... I cant believe Im about to say this.... As much as I cant stand Lebron, the Mike and Kobe comparision isnt a good one. Understand that Kobe didnt become a leader until the Lakers won their first championship WITHOUT Shaq. And that was fairly recent. Before that, he was exactly what Lebron is right now, just in a different mold given they are two different people. Mike did not become the leader until Phil Jackson arrived. I say all of this because you have to see all that Lebron is facing. The minute he stepped into the league, everyone, not just fans and commentators, but even coaches and GMs placed these lofty expectations on him. Look at his career thus far: who has Lebron had the opportunity to respect in his own locker room? Dont get me wrong, Lebron needs to suck it up and play his heart out minus the commentary and &$#%#&@!ing, but Im not going to throw him under the bus just yet. Give him alil more time before you start labeling him. Name me one player who won it all by themselves. Magic didnt do it, Larry didnt do it, Isaiah, Mike, Kobe, Duncan, even Billups. Lebron needs some leadership training, thats for sure. But hes not gonna get it with the cast he has around him. Ive watched Lebron punk and complain from time to time and thats because of the broken system hes come from. No one is telling him no. No one is keeping him in check and no one has tried. No one has challenged him. Until someone does, hes just gonna be collecting a check in the NBA pretty soon, and a ring will be the last thing on his mind, which is sad.... but true.
p.s. I agree, BLAME MIKE BROWN!! Hes just along for the ride. They were so quick to throw Del Negro out, when IMO Mike and Vinny are VERY similar. One was just blessed with better players than the others.
Kobe is mature now. he's a vet hes learned from his mistakes. experienced. but with how bad his body is beat up now i wouldnt call him the best out there. not this season. kobe was the same whiny biaaatch that lebron is
Lebron needs time to grow up and it sucks its taking this long. he's never had anybody in his life to bring him back down to earth. hard not to have a swollen head when you were told your the greatest gift to basketball since you were 6. you think shaq would say more to him.
lebron hasn't won anything. he didnt come into the league humble at all. how long does he have to keep losing before he's humbled. if he loses this season he will actually shake hands but not because he wanted to. just becuase of the shit said about him last year.
its only one game though we will see how lebron responds
I wonder if there are records of all the garbage that was thrown in the direction of Jordan in the late 80s and in 1990 or Kobe in 05-07 post-Shaq and pre-Pau. When people can't find fault in the on court performances or numbers, they go to imaginary intangibles. I have hyperextended my elbow, and once those ligaments get damaged it doesn't take much contact to aggravate it. It is no different from when Kobe's bad knee is acting up or someone knocks that broken finger. If the guy is in pain, he is in pain. It happens. Those injuries are also the best chance the NBA has to see a non-Lakers-Cavs final.
LeBron will never match up with the kind of winning that Magic did, but Johnson entered the league to a team that had an uninspired but talented center. It is easier to bring out effort from talent than turn straw into gold as LeBron has had to do with some of the awful supporting casts he has had. If Magic went to one of the other teams at the top of his draft, he probably doesn't win right away either. Bird only had three or four other Hall-of-Famers on his roster when he won his titles. If people are still of this belief LeBron isn't the best in the game, get in your shots now. Jamison, Mo Williams, Varejao, Shaq, Hickson, Parker, Z, and West might not be Pau, Odom, Bynum, Fisher, and Artest or Lewis, Carter, Nelson, Pietrus, Barnes, Redick, and Gortat. They are, however, good enough because LeBron is that good. It was the same when Jordan finally got teammates who were good enough. People are getting the opportunity to watch an all-time great in his prime, and some are either too dumb or too jealous to just appreciate it.
He is the unquestioned leader of that team.
If you really had a eye for this you would see that they fellow him and he tells directs his teammates.
He may not be a finisher and he may not be as good under pressure as Mike and Kobe are and was.
But he is a leader of the Cavs. Yeah the winning about the elbow is annoying I agree with that.
But he doesn't have the talent around him as Kobe does and when the Thunder were giving it to the Lakers'
did anyone write about Kobe not leading his team against them.
Other than Lebron Boston has the advantage at every other position maybe PF is a wash with Jamison and a old KG
but not by much if KG the way KG as showed up in this series.
But it this way if you were picking a players for your team from the Cavs and the C's.
After Lebron would you not pick Rondo, Peirce, Ray, Jamison, KG.
The man still needs better teammates give Lebron Pau, Lamar, and Bynum, does he win a chip. My answer Yes.
If you say he won't utilize them then you are smoking he gets 8 ast a game with his current team.
&$#%#&@! maybe, pre-madona yes, but I can't say he doesn't lead his team.
he teaches hickson all the time, when someone messes up the play he pulls them over and tells them what to do different. Yelling at your team doesn't make you a good leader, if it did rasheed would be the best leader ever.
Kobe is a better leader and their are plenty of others that are better but lebron doesn't just dick around and let people do stupid stuff.
I don't care about all of this talk or these excuses... Cleveland is good enough to win it this year. They brought in Shaq to defend Howard. Added Parker who's a very good shooter and good defender. Added length/athleticism on the wing in Moon. Traded for Jamison at the deadline. They are the best and one of the deepest teams in the NBA. LeBron has the supporting cast he needs to get it done this year. I don't want to hear the excuses if he doesn't. What will it be this year? His elbow or more of throwing his teammates under the bus?
In regards to LeBron's elbow, who knows how much he's hurt. All I know is it doesn't hurt him when he's blocking shots or dunking... Or when he was firing up three's with ease and knocking them down in game one. It didn't hurt him vs Chicago during the free-throw he shot right before he shot the next one left handed.
I can only imagine the pressure LeBron's going through. Being crowned the King period, let alone before winning a title. Being "passed" the torch before winning a title. All of this talk about him already being one of the all-time greats. The pressure on him to win a ring this year is tremendous. You know what they say... Pressure makes diamonds or bursts pipes.
The problem is teaching is only one minor aspect of being a leader. If his team sees him putting in full effort and going all out his team would follow. He needs to not only teach but motivate. Yeah that's partially the coaches job but in my experiences coaches can only do so much. LeBron needs to be a more motivating on the court.
And honestly, I'm sorry, if you're getting paid millions of dollars and are the pinnacle of your sport, and your a grown ass man you shouldn't need motivation from a coach. The fact that tens of thousands of people are chanting for your team and want you to win should be more than enough., and when it's not you need your leader on the court to hype the team up a little bit. No way should Cleveland lose by 25 on their home court.
LeBron is the Best player in the NBA right now, but the thing is,
he cant WIN he cant win a CHAMPIONSHIP, people say he needs better players,
Mo Williams is an all-star, Antawn Jamison Is an All-star, you have JJ Hickson,
Anderson Varejao , Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Delonte West, Shaquille O' Neal
Anthony Parker, Jamario Moon.
You Have 3 All-stars in your roster, a great Backup in the Front COurt Positions
1 Former all-stars, a Hustle player, An Athletic Wing, A scoring COmbo Guard,
A good shooter in anthony parker. What else do you need??
LeBron has great pieces for a championship, now all he has to do is GROW UP
And LEAD the Team.
The problem is those pieces are useless unless he gets them involved more. LBJ is a ball dominant player, so regardless of who he has it comes down to him to win. He's not the best leader, but I don't think it comes down to that. He needs to grow up and start focusing more. Things like walking out without handshakes, dancing, switching hands during free throws, and all the other stuff he does needs to stop until he can finally get his team to that next level.
How can anyone criticize Lebron for an elbow injury when Kobe's been playin his "broken finger" card on and off for like two years
I've never heard Kobe complain about his finger. I've only heard him answer questions about it.
Even with Kobe's broken finger (which has now turned arthritic), he's still never shot a free-throw left handed to tell the world... "Hey... I'm hurt!"
Kobe doesn't shoot free throws with the opposite hand. Kobe doesn't go around dancing/talking as much as LeBron does. Kobe's finger is legitimately broken, who knows if and what is wrong with LeBron's elbow (Sometimes it's magically perfectly fine..?) . Kobe doesn't play up his broken finger like LeBron played his elbow.
Have you seen Kobe's finger? The joint doesn't even look right. He'll have problems with that finger for the rest of his life. He's been playing with an injury for over two years that 99.9% of players wouldn't play with and miss games for.
The crazy thing is, he doesn't play tenative at all.
I have never heard Kobe complain about his finger.
Man, I really find it dumb when you say LeBron isn't a leader. works hard everyday, always plays hard no matter how they game is resulting, took his team to the finals when they had less talent than NJIT, liked by his teammates, never seen him &$#%#&@! over them and they all listen to him even tho he may be younger than many of them. By the way how about coaching the cavs team for mike brown. Man I know He hasn't won yet, which He obviously will, but give the man some credits for what He has done so far.
What has he done? He has the best player in the world according to most of the people on this site, and a front office who gives him new better pieces to work with every year. Give the ball to LeBron and watch him play, thats all Brown CAN do. I don't think he's a bad coach but they need to figure something out when it comes to offense because sometimes things just don't work out. I know we all want the ball in our star players hands alot, but moving the ball doesn't hurt. And for your first couple of statements, the man gets paid millions of dollars so he better be doing all those things.
If you watched the game the other day, it was pretty clear LeBron did not play as hard as he could've (in the beginning). Also do you see him practice? Do you know he always practices hard? We have no idea--that's just a blind assumption.
Its hilarious how LeBron says he not using the injury as an excuse when he keeps bringing it up in every interview.
Have you guys heard LBJ whine about his elbow? The public and media are the only ones making it an issue
Yes he has talked about it and there would be no media people talking about it if he didnt shoot left handed for no reason
LeBron doesn't need to talk about it. His 'whining' is shown through his actions, and that whining only seems to occur when things go wrong for him. When you see him throw down a massive tomohawk jam with his right arm, he isn't holding it praying for everyones sympathy. When be blocks a guys shot off the backboard on a fastbreak, he still celebrates. But, when he misses a 18 foot jumper, then he holds it and grimaces as it is his excuse. If it honestly hurts that bad, you should be showing that grimace after every play you use that arm if it is that bad, not just the ones that you mess up on. He's acting like if he wasn't hurt at all then he would be hitting every shot and there would be no flaws to his game.
Lebron's team is good but are a bit overrated. Shaq isn't close to an allstar form, mo was an injury replacement's injury replacement (first bosh went down, replaced by ray allen, then ray went down, replaced by jameer nelson, the nelson went down and mo got in), Z was an allstar a million years ago. Anthony Parker isn't a good defender he is just 6'6", somewhat quick, and tries hard, but he (and jalen rose) was the guy kobe dropped 81 on. Also three of our very usefull players play the same position. Varejao, Hickson, and Jamison are competing with each other for mintues and only a few mintues are available at center.
Lebron's team is good and worse teams have won it all but I don't think they should be the favorites, i just really wish they were.
The_I_In_Win you just proved how deep the Cavs are
C- Shaq, Big Z
PF- Jameson, Hickson, Varejao
SF- LeBron, Moon
SG- Parker, West
PG- Mo, West
That is solid no matter what. When you have the best player of our generation (supposedly) you don't need 4 other all stars to play along side of him. He already has the best shooter in the league, all star point guard, two decent former all star centers, and an all star power forward. Really, what could be added to that team to make it much better?
I disagree on the Lebron not a leader thing.
The man takes a below average team out everynight and so far? Lead them to the 2nd round.
He is a leader....The team around him sucks
That means nothing.
Take Kobe out of LA... below average team
Take Durant out of OKC... below average team
Take Wade out of MIA... Well below average team
When you take the best player off of most teams, their team becomes below average. That's no excuse.
Lehype and the excues his stans make are absolutely pathetic. The Celtics are better than the Cavs they should win this series, but they wont beause they want Lehype in the Finals. At first I wanted Lehype in the Finals so that the Lakers could rape the Cavs on the biggest stage, but the excuses that people are going to make are absolutely weak, and sad. I hope the Celtics beat those clowns and put them away, because they are truly the better team, and Paul Pierce hasn't even came to play in 1 game yet.
I'm not hating on LeBron or Nothin
And another thing is, i dont think it's only LeBron thats Failing
but also his Teammates. They Rely On Him to Much
They loook for him to be Superman every game to have 40 points 15 rebounds 15 assists every game
nobody can do that,
Not only LeBron, But also the Whole Cavs Team with Mo Williams and Antawn Jamison
They arr one of the deppest teams in the league
LeBron; Tha CAVS have to step up
Lol i love how DYNCE says Lehype sucks, his supporting cast is awful, and then says Kobes easily the best player in the nba, Gasols, a top ten player, Bynum would be the best center in the east, Browns a superstar, and yet they still have a worse record than the Cavs, and the cavs beat them both times in the regular season. Definitely not a homer alert......
I never said Shannon was a superstar,I never said Bynum would be the best center in the east, I SAID HE WOULD BE THE BIGGEST CENTER IN THE EAST, HE IS 7 FOOT 285 ,WHEN SHAQ'S WEAK ASSS IS GONE. The Regular season doesn't mean a dam thing if you don't believe me go to Lakers.com and see who won the championship last year. Didn't the Magic beat us twice before the Finals? How did that playout for them? Gasol missed 16 plus games this year, Kobe missed time, Ron missed time, Bynum missed time, yet we easily won the west(which is by far the better conference).I suggest you go and buy hooked on phonics asap clown. Please don't bring up the Shaq and Mo Williams injuries, because those clowns still had Delonte and Gibson. The Cavs are better without Shaq , they are just like he Suns, they are better without Shaq becuse they like to get out and run. Shaq clogs up Lehypes lanes, we all know his jumper is still broke.
The Cavs have had 7 long years to build a team around Lehype, yet people are still making excuses for Lehype LOL
Your stupid if you think Lebron hasn't done anything. To take a team to the finals with that supporting cast is nothing Kobe would have ever been able to do, and The Lakers had everyone healthy when they got beaten badly both times, Cavs had almost as many injuries too and they were big injuries too.
i misread the Bynum thing i thought you said the best in the east, my main point is how can Lehype (whos overrated severely) with a much worse supporting cast go against a better superstar than him, a top ten player, and all the other pieces you are talking about Bynum, Brown, that would be putting up huge numbers in a different team and still have a worse record than the Cavs?
and they had injuries to their three best players, and plenty of other players too missed significant time too, win less games than the Cavs??? is it because Jackson is a horrible coach? and you know dam well regular seasons are important and Orlando was missing their second best player last year, thats a big reason why they lost, and Orlando was a horrible fit for the cavs but their way more equipped this year and would have won many more games if it wasnt for injuries.