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Is there a NBA player off the bench that would start on every other team in the NBA?


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FOR SURE: Lamar Odom Jamal

FOR SURE:
Lamar Odom
Jamal Crawford
Manu Ginobili
J.R. Smith

MAYBE:
Rasheed Wallace
Udonis Haslem
Robin Lopez
Jason Thompson

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No. Odom wouldn't start on

No.

Odom wouldn't start on Cleveland (LBJ and Jamison in the frontcourt) or Boston (Pierce and Garnett at forward).

Crawford, Ginobli and Smith wouldn't start in LA (over Kobe?), Miami, or Atlanta (if Crawford doesn't start over Johnson why would Ginobli or Smith?).

Those guys would start on many other teams but not "every other team"

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Robin Lopez was a starter

Robin Lopez was a starter before he got injured.

Manu is now starting.

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No I mean would he start over

No I mean would he start over everybody else in the league in that position except his team.

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Well since Manu is now

Well since Manu is now started... Substitute Manu on my list with Tony Parker

But we all know that throughout his career, he's came off the bench, Gregg Popovich just wants a new wrinkle this post-season

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I'd say Lamar Odom.. On ANY

I'd say Lamar Odom.. On ANY other team he'd be a starter.

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If a player could start over

If a player could start over every player at their position in the NBA, they wouldn't come off the bench

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i dont think there are any

i dont think there are any bench players that would start on every other team. There are a lot of starters that coldnt say they would start on every single team

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Maybe. The think about a

Maybe. The think about a player that would be able to start on EVERY other team in the NBA is that the guy would have to be very well rounded. The only guy I can think of is maybe Lamar Odom. The problem with guys like Manu and JR is that they couldnt start on a team like the Lakers or the Hawks... Odom can play almost every position on the floor so he is the only guy on a bench that could stand a chance.

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Odom can play literally ANY

Odom can play literally ANY position, maybe not SG THAT WELL, but he can play it.. So he'd HAVE to be the guy.

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Lamar might be the closest

Lamar might be the closest because he can play both forward positions and he is unslefish/versatile so he could fit in about any system.

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lets try and name teams lamar

lets try and name teams lamar couldnt start for

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I think Lamar Odom would not

Its DwightHoward is right I think Lamar Odom would not start on the Celtics because Kevin Garnett can not play center every game now.

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Odom could probably start in

Odom could probably start in Boston or Cleveland.

Boston could easily slide Garnett up to center which he played alot in Minny.
If Cleveland plays Varejao at C sometimes, why wouldn't they play Odom at C?

And I actually think Odom is better than Jamison because he's a better defensive player and a better rebounder.

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okay boston makes sense.

okay boston makes sense. There is a chance the cavs might put lebron at the sg spot and move parker to the bench and star lamar. Lebron can gaurd any sg and basically plays gaurd anyways.

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You guys act like you NEED to

You guys act like you NEED to have a PG, SG, SF, PF and a C.

Remember Cleveland started 3 forwards for most of the season.. Hickson/Varejao/James

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i agree lamar would not start

i agree lamar would not start in boston though. Perkins interior defense is huge and i doubt KG wants to bang with centers allday. SO i agree he would come off the bench there. But i think cleavland would love to start odom.

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Teams that have 3

Teams that have 3 forwards:

Celtics sometimes plays Sheed, Garnett, Pierce
Raptors play: Bargnani, Bosh, Turkoglu
Bulls play: Noah, Gibson, Deng
Dallas SOMETIMES play: Nowitzki, Marion, Butler
Memphis: Gay, Randolph, Gasol
Magic: If you guys don't remember, Dwight is a PF, Dwight/Lewis/Barnes
Spurs: Jefferson/McDyess/Duncan
Lakers LOVE to play: Odom/Gasol/Artest
Denver LOVES to play: Andersen, Martin, Melo
Minny plays: Jefferson/Love/Brewer

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"if you guys dont remember

"if you guys dont remember dwight is a pf", sense when? He has never played pf or like a pf in his career.

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Dwight is only 6'10.. 6'9 w/o

Dwight is only 6'10.. 6'9 w/o shoes. He played PF in high school too.

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i dont care what he played in

i dont care what he played in highschool, he plays center for any team in the league. Everything about his game says center.

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He plays C because everyteam

He plays C because everyteam needs a offensive big and a defensive big. If you pair him up with Bargnani, he'd be a PF.

Coming into the NBA..

Scout.com:
Dwight Howard
Southwest Atlanta Christian Academy (Ga.)
Power Forward, 6-10, 243

ESPN.com:
Dwight Howard
Power Forward (Rank: #2) | 6-10, 240

Rivals.com:
Dwight Howard
Power forward
Atlanta, Georgia
Southwest Atlanta Christian
* Ht:6'10"
* Wt:225 lbs
* GPA:3
* Class:2004 (High School)

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Dwight was 6' 9" w/o shoes

Dwight was 6' 9" w/o shoes when he was drafted out of high school. I think he's grown since then. He's at least 6' 10" w/o shoes and has a 7' 5" foot wingspan and 9' 4" standing reach. He's a center lol.

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dude, you are wrong. stop

dude, you are wrong. stop bringing up what he did in highschool or why he plays center, he is a center. Take him past 10 feet from the basket and he is not effective. If he played with any team in the league he would play center. Guess what, that means he's a center.

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Well he could be a C but I

Well he could be a C but I still think he's a PF.. Look at Noah, he's 6-11 and has a defensive mindset and he's still tagged a PF.

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Where's Paul Millsap in all

Where's Paul Millsap in all this? Incredible in 2008-09 when he started a lot, averaging 17 and 9 in this year's playoffs, has played in 322 out of a possible 328 career games, and plays as hard as anyone in the league.

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Then why is Noah tagged a PF?

Then why is Noah tagged a PF? He's 6-11 and has a defensive mindset

I don't think anybody wins or loses in this argument. Some people think Josh Smith is a SF while others take him as a PF.. The same with Al Horford, C on some teams, PF on others.. Noah is a PF in the C body.. It's just how you see things.

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because noah plays both, josh

because noah plays both, josh smith plays both. If they went to different teams, they might play either. Dwight has never played anything but center and he would play center no matter where he went. Big difference.

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Put him with Brad Miller. Put

Put him with Brad Miller.
Put him with Yao Ming.
Put him with Zydrunas.
Put him with Bogut.
Put him with Spencer Hawes.
Put him with Marcus Camby.
Put him with Mehmet Okur.

These are centers that can shoot.
He would play PF along with all of them.

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the only guy on that list

the only guy on that list where dwight would play pf would be with yao. spencer and memo both are perimter players. Camby likes to shoot from the outside and and defends 4s better. Miller and Z would probably sit on the nech. Bogut is much more perimter oriented then dwight. So basically because yao might play center, that would mean they have 2 centers in my book. And even if you say dwight is the pf, that doesnt mean he is a pf. If that were the case, then Dwill is not a pg because i think if he was with CP3 he would be off the ball. And Kobe is not a sg because if he played with wade he would probably play sf. And etc...

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Now you're just acting

Now you're just acting childish..

It's my own opinion as I suggested a couple of posts ago.

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how am i being childish? Did

how am i being childish? Did i speak down to you or make any invalid arguments? you say dwight would play pf with all those guys and i said he wouldnt. Do a poll and ask if dwight is a center or a forward and lets see if what kind of responses you get.

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You did make an invalid

You did make an invalid argument.

"And even if you say dwight is the pf, that doesnt mean he is a pf. If that were the case, then Dwill is not a pg because i think if he was with CP3 he would be off the ball. And Kobe is not a sg because if he played with wade he would probably play sf. And etc..."

You're aligning superstar caliber players on the same team when everyone knows that would never happen.

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Lol this is silly... Dwight

Lol this is silly... Dwight is a center and he would be on every NBA team, except with maybe Yao who's 7' 6"... But they'd never be on the same team together, so it's irrellivant.

Everything about Dwight's game says center. He's been a center his entire NBA career and doesn't have the skill set to play away from the basket.

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And once again, since you

And once again, since you made the poll statement... ITS MY OWN PERSONAL OPINION.

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uhmm, you started it by

uhmm, you started it by saying what if dwight played with yao or bogut, so i countered with what if kobe played with wade or if dwill played with paul, how is that any different? You said earlier yourslef that not every team needs a pg/sg/sf/pf/c, correct? So how are you gonna argue that dwight is a pf if he played with yao, wouldnt that mean they start two centers, something you said teams can do earlier? That was my point, sometimes teams start two guys that play the same position. When Darren collison and Paul or ridnour and jennings played together, that didnt make one of them an official sg. So how is that childish?

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And as a matter of fact... IF

And as a matter of fact... IF Howard played with Yao, I'd say they had two centers on the floor lol. It's like when Mike Brown would play Z and Shaq together... I'd say they have two centers on the floor, not a center and a power forward lol.

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Yeah, when I stated you don't

Yeah, when I stated you don't need to have a pg, sg, sf, pf, c.. if you continued reading, i also stated that many teams plays 3 forwards.. where i had dwight aswell

So now it's impossible for someone to have a personal opinion? without being attacked? lol

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attacked? I said you were

attacked? I said you were wrong, and you continued this into a big back and forth. Dwight is a center is not really an opinion, its kinda a fact. I mean, if i said joe montana was a running back, i cant really defend that with "that is my opinion". If you had said from the begining "in my opinion, dwight is a pf" then i might not have said anything. But instead, you said, "some of you all forget that he is a pf" like you were trying to drop knowledge on the rest of us that we all forgot about. Oh well, im done it is a dumb argument.

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I had some facts to prove to

I had some facts to prove to myself that he was a PF, there are no facts stating Joe Montana is a RB.. LOL.. nice try..

alright well this post went from 6th Man to Lamar Odom to Dwight Howard to Joe Montana. lol

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Wadeisbetta: Take Rasheed off

Wadeisbetta: Take Rasheed off that list right now

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I think although Odoms good

I think although Odoms good enough to start, most teams would keep him on the bench to use as a sparkplug only the teams that are desperate for quality starters, his skill set is perfect for off the bench.

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I think it is possibly that

I think it is possibly that Howard could play both power forward and Center but he is more suited for the Center role because of his skill set. Also Odom is so versatile that if a team needed to play their 5 best players and he was their 5th best player they could start him. Lakers bring Odom off the bench because it helps their bench and also helps their team same thing with Jamal Crawford and early this year Hinrich. These guys are starters. Also i am confused how would Howard be a power forward Toronto. They have no physical big man or a defensive presence which would automatically make Howard their Center.

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I think it is possibly that

I think it is possibly that Howard could play both power forward and Center but he is more suited for the Center role because of his skill set. Also Odom is so versatile that if a team needed to play their 5 best players and he was their 5th best player they could start him. Lakers bring Odom off the bench because it helps their bench and also helps their team same thing with Jamal Crawford and early this year Hinrich. These guys are starters. Also i am confused how would Howard be a power forward Toronto. They have no physical big man or a defensive presence which would automatically make Howard their Center.

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