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Beasley to Washington?

The Miami Heat want as much salary cap room as possible in the offseason and this could involve trading one of the few players who are signed for next season. They'll definitely look to shop Michael Beasley, who was benched in their last playoff game, and his $4.96 million salary.

According to The Washington Post, some members of the Wizards front office, another team with a lot of salary cap room, are open to trading for Beasley.

One potential deal would be for the Wizards to send their lottery pick to Miami for the power forward.


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Is Beasley even worth a

Is Beasley even worth a lottery pick at this point?

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I just read that too.

ya i just read that article also and I think it would be a good move for this wiz, but deffintily not for there lottery pick? If thats the case then no way they should do it. Trade mabye al thorton and and the wiz 30th pick for beasly.

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15ppg and 8rpg is worth at

15ppg and 8rpg is worth at least a 10-15 pick

Atleast he's proved he can get 15-8.. not the 25-10 he was projected to be but he's still like 21

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D3wadelsbetta

Well the wiz will most likely get a top 5 pick and i really dont think beasly is worth it. plus his off the court issues are really the last thing the wizards need to turn things around.

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Personally i think Beasley

Personally i think Beasley is more than a lottery pick
He has 2 much talent if ppl jus kid play
he mite be sumthin special

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The Wizards are sitting at

The Wizards are sitting at the 5th pick. Beasley isn't worth the 5th pick in my opinion.

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I agree

I agree in general WadeIsBetta that Beasley is worth a lotto pick but not a top 5 pick, which is what Washington is slated to have. Top 5 picks are slated for potential franchise players and Beasley is barely a 2nd option at this point in his young career.

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He jus mite need time, ok

He jus mite need time,
ok lets say was. get d.favors
is d.favors really better than beasley,
i think not theres not a lot of players
with a skill set like beasley, hes to unqiue
and versital u have 2 be out ur mind 2 pick
favors over beasley, an another thing
lets say beasley didnt enter the draft last
yr hed been takein the NCAA college tourney by
storm nobody in college cood hold b-easy if
hed stayed closest big wood prolly
be cousins, beasley just need to make a few adjustments
and prolly traded 2 a team with a better system that fits
i acutally like the trade, but a few yrs from now if that were 2 go down
heat wood of wish they never did that

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I like Beasley and think he

I like Beasley and think he just needs confidence, but are you guys sure he's worth a lottery pick? I can name at least 14 players picked after him in his own draft class that'd I'd rather have over him right now.

OJ Mayo
Russell Westbrook
Kevin Love
Danilo Gallinari
Eric Gordon
Brook Lopez
Jason Thompson
Robin Lopez
Marreese Speights
Roy Hibbert
JJ Hickson
Courtney Lee
Serge Ibaka
Nicolas Batum
George Hill

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I think it would make more

I think it would make more sense if they added Chalmers, or Wright to that deal. I do think Beasley is worth a top five pick though, not o top three.

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You make

You make a solid case with your last comment ButlerBulldogs I'm not even gonna lie. But the fact is Beasley does produce at a level with most of those guys. And Beasley has been in pressure situations unlike everybody on that list outside of Westbrook.

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watching the Miami game the

watching the Miami game the other night..1 of my friends ask the question, would Beasley be a better player if he played with a point guard..maybe he would be..But Wade isnt a selfish player and loves sharing the ball..i think Beasley's problem is he might be thinking too much..at times it seems like his mind is somewhere else..The talent is there to be a double double guy..But he doesnt play with passion....maybe going elsewhere and starting over might be good for him..

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The thing is Beasley is a

The thing is Beasley is a talented player, but is too much of a tweener. For example, he will not be as efficient in defense as a raw player like Ibaka whose size and athleticism is off the charts. He will not be the type of lock down defender Batum will be because Batum has better footspeed which allows him to defend hard on guards and forwards. Beasley has to find his spot (probably the three) and gain footspeed while improving his shooting and overall quickness.

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he is going to be worth a

he is going to be worth a top 5 pick eventually...it doesnt seem like it now, but he needs a change of scenery

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I think he still has a good

I think he still has a good chance to become a superstar IMO. I think he just needs of change of scenery and needs to be in a different style of play. Once he gets coached up and finds his niche, I think he will thrive and be a superstar in this league one day.

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A superstar is someone you

A superstar is someone you can build your team around. You think you can build a team around Michael Beasley?

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I didn't say that you could

I didn't say that you could build a team around him now, but in a few years, if he gets a change of scenery and becomes more mature, I think he'll be the type of player that you can build a team around.

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Beasley problem is that he

Beasley problem is that he can't play the 3 and that decrease his potential, it's make him very tweener cause he only 6'7, it's make him less afective as a player.

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I agree he has produced more

I agree he has produced more then alot of guys on that list, while still having potential. some of the problems have to do with the coach not letting him play through his mistakes liek the other guuys in his class are able to do, another being that he has to contend with hasleem who isnt a allstar but is very solid and makes few mistakes. Then you have wade who is very ball dominate and needs a certain type of player to play second fiddle. Then of course you have Mike's inconsistant play where he sometimes acts like hes a 4th option instead of second and passes up shots he should take. Would i build a team around him at this point?No but the same could be said about everyone else in his draft class including westbrook and rose. They are both good but they are both best suited for secondary roles not top guys liek a wade,bron,melo,paulp etc

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i dont think his height has

i dont think his height has anything to do with it. He has shown with good games that he can be just effective at 6'7

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beasley

He really needs a change of scenery... Playing with the team he grew up watching would benefit him immensly. I could see him playing with Livingston on Washington's second unit next year- The Wizards could use a scorer off the bench. I would do a sign and trade involving Randy Foye to trade to the Heat if they really are willing to trade Beasley.

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Im not too sold on him

Im not too sold on him coming back home and playing. There are wayyy too many distractions and people who will have him hanging with the wrong crowd. Hopefully he will get traded somewhere else

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^^Agreed Quincey. Especially

^^Agreed Quincey. Especially for a guy like him with a troubled past, being home is not a positive thing. Personally he needs to go somewhere where the nightlife isn't anything special where he can just go home and focus on basketball. He doesn't need distractions. A guy like Lance Stephenson who I do not want my knicks drafting because him being back home will be disastrous.

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WTF are yaw talking about

Beasley is and will be better than all the big men in this draft....did any one of these players you would be drafting in the top ten have a better collegiate season than Beasley...he's better than all the players in this Draft...better than the former #1 pick Blake Griffen and if he had been drafted or traded to Memphis he'd have the season Zak Randolph(AllStar) just had...if the Grizzles would have traded Mayo for Beasley( could have happened) and Drafted Evans over Thabett they'd be the on the right track...Point blank Beasley is a building block....a pure scorer/rebounder when he's a major part of the offense...

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I liek Beasley but what he

I liek Beasley but what he did in college means nothing in the nba. Psyco T also did work in college as well as Adam Morrison and J.J Redick. And he would not have had a Zach Randolph season in memphis. He would probably have played better then he did this year but he would not have been Zach. Gotta be a lil more realistic. Beasley had chances to really step up in the games when wade was ouit and he didnt. Yes he has great potential but he also hasnt played as well as he should have because of various reasons one ,being himself.

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To compare Beasley to

To compare Beasley to Randolph right now is foolish. In terms of offense you can't ask for many more guys with a more complete Offensive game than Zach Randolph. If he is behind his past problems and is ready to win games, he is a dangerous player.

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Put Beasley on a team

Put Beasley on a team without a ball-dominant player and you'll see a player with 20 ppg and 7 rpg potential. I've said it before and I maintain that.

Also Tezo, you'd take Roy Hibbert, Maureese Speights, Nicolas Batum, JJ Hickson, Courtney Lee, Serge Ibaka, Robin Lopez, and Jason Thompson over Michael Beasley? I can't agree with that at all. Let's not forget Beasley averaged 15 and 7. He's not played his best, but he's put up better numbers than all of those guys and he's playing with a ball-dominant player. That has to count for ALOT.

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You can disagree lol. That's

You can disagree lol. That's why it's an opinion.

Beasley has more talent than majority of the players on that list, but I feel they're more valuable to their teams. Beasley is a tweener. He can't defend four's in the post and doesn't have the quickness to defend three's on the perimeter. He plays little to no D at all. He doesn't always play with energy or intensity either. He has a confidence problem and still seems to be struggling with maturity. The Heat haven't been able to count on Beasley all season.

Yes... As of right now, I'd take those players over Beasley even though their statistics may not be as good.

Give me Batum who defends the best offensive player every game and is a reliable player for his team. Give me Hickson, who even though he wasn't in the rotation to start the playoffs, jumped up and gave his team energy and hustle when his name was called. Give me Jason Thompson who plays hard at both ends of the floor. Give me Ibaka who comes off of the bench and gives his team immediate weakside shot blocking, energy and hustle. I just think those players are more valuable to their teams as of right now.

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if i was gm, i would take

if i was gm, i would take hibbert, batum, ibaka, RLopez, and thompson over beasley. I just think they can fit a team concept and contribute without having to be given the ball all the time. But i would not take speights, hickson or lee ahead of beasley.

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Give Bealsey a defined role

Give Bealsey a defined role and he'd be more valuable than all of them. None of them are in the situation Beasley was in, and none of those players (except Batum) has as much expected from them. If they had Beasley like numbers, they would be looked at as players who have overachieved. Beasley puts up above average numbers and has an effect and role offensively that none of these other players have.

Beasley does all the things Jason Thompson and JJ Hickson do in similar situations, except better. The Cavs can easily replace the energy and production and energy Hickson has (Varejao), and the Kings could too with Thompson (Landry/Hawes). Batum only has 2 things to do, make open shots and defend. And he plays on the wing. His roles can be replaced (Webster). Ibaka adds shot-blocking to the Thunder. He's the only one who's role can't be replaced on his team. And Beasley is better than him too. I'd take Beasley over all the guys I said, and I would do so without a question.

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"I just think they can fit a

"I just think they can fit a team concept and contribute without having to be given the ball all the time."

Michael Beasley can too. He just has to play with a team that has players to compliment him. Wade's playing style has a big effect on Beasley's "lack of team concept and ability to contribute." Let's not forget once again that this he averaged 15 ppg and 7 rebs, pretty good for a guy who plays with a high-usage guard, can't fit a team concept, and can't contribute without having the ball in his hands all the time.

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a problem i see is that in

a problem i see is that in the nba, you are either a role player, or a go to player. Beasley doesnt do anything great as a role player. Spot up shooting, defense, ball handling, rebounding, passing are all sub par except maybe shooting if he is a pf and gets left all alone. I dont see him being a great role player. Now if a team goes to him and says go to work, i dont see him being a great enough offensive player who can take advantage of mistmatches consistently enough for him to be that guy on a good team. I think he will have an Al Harrington type career, which is not terribale. But sometimes a sound role player like say batum or robin lopez is a better fit then an al harrington who can score and put up stats.

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I don't know... I can

I don't know... I can understand how playing with a ball dominant player will affect you offensively to a degree, but I just don't think Beasley does anything else well. Defensively... He's awful. He may score 20, but he'll give up 25. He doesn't have a high motor... Doesn't play with energy or intensity. And I'm telling you, he's missing something upstairs. He just doesn't have that confidence.

He wasn't reliable for his team this year. He doesn't move well without the ball... Doesn't set good screens. He's just an offensive minded player who's capable of putting up good statistics, but do nothing else to help a team. I just don't trust Beasley as of right now.

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It depends on the team. In

It depends on the team. In some situations, I do agree that maybe Robin Lopez or Ibaka are better fits, but I think Beasley is easily better than those 2.

Beasley is a more than decent shooter, rebounder, and ball-handler for a PF though no doubt. He's not quite a good passer, and he's never going to be a good defender, but he does bring scoring to the table. He's a mismatch scorer who can do a nice variety of things to SF's or PF's depending on the matchup. I think he'd be a good fit for a team with a good PG or high scoring shooter. And he could be a starter unlike most of the guys you guys would rather have.

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I agree with a lot of what

I agree with a lot of what you're saying. I just don't trust him. He's missing something upstairs. I just don't think any team with him as a go-to player will be very good, but that's just my opinion. I may be wrong. I guess we'll see. Like I said... Kid is talented. I just see a confidence problem and a lack of maturity. It may take him a few years. I don't know. As of right now though, I wouldn't want him on my team.

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they already have andray

they already have andray blatche, and gilbert arenas is they same ball dominant type player wade is. the problem is his playing time because of mistakes. he needs to play through them where ever he is. i know i couldnt play loose and free with any little mistake i make i would come out of the game. he can be a second option on a good team. IMO, he can play the 4 in this league and do well. i think he can get 22 and 8 at the 4, he may not be a great defender but any team could use 22 and 8. but i dont think washington is the answer. i think he will be fine in miami if coach lets him play through mistakes. he can be an good pick and pop/roll player and combine that with a few post ups and isos, he will give you production with wade having the ball in his hands most of the time.

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they already have andray

they already have andray blatche, and gilbert arenas is they same ball dominant type player wade is. the problem is his playing time because of mistakes. he needs to play through them where ever he is. i know i couldnt play loose and free with any little mistake i make i would come out of the game. he can be a second option on a good team. IMO, he can play the 4 in this league and do well. i think he can get 22 and 8 at the 4, he may not be a great defender but any team could use 22 and 8. but i dont think washington is the answer. i think he will be fine in miami if coach lets him play through mistakes. he can be an good pick and pop/roll player and combine that with a few post ups and isos, he will give you production with wade having the ball in his hands most of the time.

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i think he would flourish in

i think he would flourish in golden state, or at least have his best chance of breaking out.

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I for one, don't like him in

I for one, don't like him in Washington though. They already have enough offensive-minded players who don't play defense to play winning basketball. They don't even have the feel of a team building to a championship. They have too many selfish players, and Beasley wouldn't be better off playing for them.

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agree 100% with mr.6000. and

agree 100% with mr.6000. and he would do well in gs. i think miami gives him one more year, depending on what happens in miami this offseason.

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I don't get why Beasley is playing at PF

Any idea why the heat always used Beasley at PF?

I have always thought Beasley is at best playing SF, he got enough speed, size, strength and some perimeter game (baring more improvements, but it's expected as he's only 20) to play at the SF.

He's a Glenn Robinson type, a Melo type of offensive player. I don't get why the Heat would use him at PF. He's short and has relatively short arm as a PF to play against bigger players in the post. I think that also added to his suckiness. Playing "out of position" for so long without success had really killed his confidence.

Beasley should have much more success if he gains back his confidence and play as a SF.

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By the way

If the Wizards don't need to give up much, they should try to get Beasley. He just has way too much talent and being a Washington local would really be too tempting for the Wizards if they don't need to give up too much. However, if I am the Wizards GM, I would think I have the upper hand and if the Heat (the Heat would want to free up the cap space used on Beasley) asks for too much, then I won't get Beasley.

If you looked at what happened to the Wizards for the past year, you would realize that most Wizards players are talent, young but very IMMATURE! Andray Blatche is a coach headache and disobeyed his coaches. That was the main reason why he didn't get much PT until all the big guys were traded. Even so, he's still acting very immaturely as the top player for the Wizards. McGee and Nick Young are both very talented, but it seems all the young players are not mature enough to treat their basketball career seriously.

I think it also has something to do with Gibert Arenas. Gibert Arenas is a work horse and a competitor, but he is also a big time joker. I think he doesn't take anything seriously when he's off the court (he would play his best on the court though). Arenas being "so much fun" had really influenced the young wizards to not taking things seriously. The fact that Arenas had been out with injuries so long made things even worst. Had Arenas been healthy and showing the young kids that he played hard on the court, the young wizards could have improved much more and played more seriously. Without Arenas being on the court, the young wizards only look at the joker side of Arenas off the court, and that's bad influence.

A coach like Flip can't control a team with players that are so immature. You just have to see how he handled Andray Blatche when Blatched disrespected him (no suspension? sounds like Flip has lost respect as a good coach right there when he gave up on standing tough against being bully by his own players). You can tell why Rasheed Wallace has no respect for Flip. I think Flip was too used to hard worker like KG and he expected his player to discipline themselves, so he never learned to be tough to his players. He went public to say he had never seen KG acting the way how Blatche acted. This shows he's really a soft coach.

With a soft coach like Flip, adding Beasley who can potentially be another headcase, so it may not be such a good idea. That's why I think if they don't need to give up much, it's a good gamble. If they need to give up a lottery pick, then they should hang up on the Heat.

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Analyzing it
I analyzed it BUT I don't approve of it... Especially when the Wizards got Agent Bang Bang and another headcase like Andre Blatche in your team that's like a mental institution where you add another less-mature kind of Beasley on that team.. That would be pretty disastrous in my opinion...
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Why

is this still a discussion ...Beasley is and will always be a beast,...if the Heat dont want him we(the people) will...did any of you average like 25 and 10 plus in the NCAA....I didn't and I'm Nice....

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