How good is David Lee going to be away from New York. He's averaging 20 and 11 now and shooting a great percentage. I don't see the drop being as big as some people think it might be - he's not Shawn Marion.
I could see him averaging 17 and 10 somewhere else.
I can definatly see him leaving to another team like the Nets.
I dont think he'll wait till the end of summer on nyk. they obviously dont have him high on their list of freeagent signings.
Like most players he'll consider the first big contract offered to him. especially if its a good team and prob take it mid summer.
Where ever David Lee goes he will be successful. The guy is a team player, unselfish, a competitor, who goes all out all the time. That being said he may get overpaid, but that's not his fault that's the team's fault for overpaying him. To me he is not worth more than $10 million for 6 years, but I would not be shocked if he gets between 12-14 million for 6 years.
Usually a good inside player gets his team real better. The problem is that New York is not good with Lee, he's not a shot blocker at all, doesn not have great physical assets at the power forward spot and his stats are more due to the fact he plays in Mike D'Antoni system in a bad team than just to his talent. He's a 6-8 million $ type of guy who has to be aligned with a great center, a kind of Luis Scola if you want.
I dont think he'd put up 20 and 10 on the teams he's going to be looking at signing with this offseason, but I do think anywhere from 14-17 ppg and 7-10 rpg is doable. The guy is a hard worker, solid mid range player, runs the floor. It seems like he doesnt need to the offense to run through him to be effective.
I think a couple good places for him would be:
Thunder- likely scenario, but I dont think it is a great fit.
Just to name a few. I think if New Jersey could add him and maybe a Joe Johnson then that team could be in serious business. Miami needs good players who dont need the ball to be good cuz Wade is going to have the ball 20 seconds per possession. And San Antonio would be interesting cuz he would pair well with Duncan, but I dont think they have near enough the cap room. Thunder would not suprise me cuz that team is young and needs a big guy who doesnt need the ball. Lee would fit well, but defensively they would be awefully small still.
In the world of overpaying in the NBA, you probably can't get David Lee for less than 10mil after this season. I personally think 6~8 mil would be the right price or even a bargain, but with his season of 20-11, it's hard to imagine he would take anything less than 10mil a year.
Lee's a younger and faster than Scola, but he's not as skilled in the post. He's a better rebounder though. Both are not too good as a post defender because of their size. However, they are both team players and have high character. Work hard, give all efforts and hustle. I wish the Raptors would be able to get him in a Bosh S&T. If he can be signed for 9mil a year, then it's a good deal.
I know everyone is critical of David Lee's defense, but a lot of the time he is matched up against Centers, not power forwards. I am not saying he would be an all-nba defender, but I do believe he will be an average defender if he got to guard guys at the power forward position, not the center position.
Thats why the thunder would not be a good fit for him. He'd have to guard 5's most likely. I think he should stay in New York or New Jersey personally.
If somehow the Bulls fell out of the race for Bosh because they don't have the assets to trade if it ends up a sign and trade situation, Lee would be a great pick-up. Also as Lee won't demand the money of Bash or Amar'e they may have cap space to acquire a player like Rudy Gay as well.
Looks like a pretty good team to me.
I didn't see him a lot this season but from what i can tell his mid range is nasty and he has always been a great rebounder. If you put him next to a good defencive center his inabiltiy to block shots won't matter so much.
Also if he slids back to pf he won't be giving up 4 inches which will help his defence.
"If somehow the Bulls fell out of the race for Bosh because they don't have the assets to trade if it ends up a sign and trade situation, Lee would be a great pick-up. Also as Lee won't demand the money of Bash or Amar'e they may have cap space to acquire a player like Rudy Gay as well.
Looks like a pretty good team to me."
First, you might want to tell David Lee that Lee won't demand the money of Bosh or Amare. For two years, Lee's agent Mark Bartelstein has been talking max or near max money for his client. The reason he is becoming a free agent this summer is that Lee has not been willing to sign for anything resembling the kind of offer you are thinking. Lee isn't on the level of Bosh or Amare. Lee has never been on a team to win more than 33 games in his career, and on that team he was the fifth option. Lee has franchise ruining contract written all over him. He has packed on numbers in a system that inflates statistics on teams that were awful. If he was a player worthy of the kind of money his agent is seeking, the Knicks wouldn't have been a 29 win team.
Second, it still looks like a roster too heavily reliant on its guards hitting jump shots and lacking a back to the basket scorer.
I had been tossing around the Lee to the Bulls idea with a friend of mine. Personally, if I'm the Bulls I have to get a max talent or close, before worrying about a non-superstar. I would have my eyes set on Lebron, then Wade, though both guys may stay where they are. I think even if they get Joe Johnson who I do not believe is a max player (but will get paid like one no matter what) and a guy like Lee, they would be in really good shape. Both of those guys could really help to space the floor out, especially with Lee's ever improving jumper and it fills two of their needs. Lee isn't the caliber of Amare or Bosh, but with the salary cap going up, I think he is a realistic option for a little over 8 million a year, which is what the Bulls should have after maxing out a guy. You get to pair him with a shot blocker in Noah and in the brief periods that he may have to play center, you have Gibson who can block shots. Their frontcourt would gobble up boards left and right. I think they would also have the mid-level exception to play with to add some depth and of course whoever they draft, if the guy can play right now, it's a bonus.
I will say that I think Lee is going to be worth more than 8 mil a year, but depending what guys leave their teams, there is only going to be so much money and some of those teams either have guys playing the same position or are just bad situations to go into. I think Lee would be satisfied with fair value, but I think winning will be huge. As for Rudy Gay to the Bulls, I say pass. I'd rather have Rudy than Deng, but how much does he make them better if they cannot trade Deng or even if they do trade Deng, they probably won't get much back. The Bulls either need a guy better than Rose or close to Rose to propel this team.
I definitely agree with BTPH. Everything he said.