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another beasley topic

i was debating with some people about beasley on here the other day and just wanted to show this little piece given up by Bill Simmons in regards to beasley and see what you guys think:

"105. Michael Beasley
Hate to throw the "bust" word around after two years, so let's flip this around. You're watching the playoffs right now. Pretty competitive, right? Other than scoring, you need to rebound, defend and play hard to advance. Beasley can't do any of those three things. Play an undersized power forward against him (like Glen Davis in Game 2) and he gets eaten up. Stick a small forward on him (like Paul Pierce) and he can't post that guy up. Stick a traditional power forward on him (like Kevin Garnett) and he can't beat that guy off the dribble or prevent the guy from scoring on the low post. So what's left? I don't see any conceivable scenario in which this guy has a meaningful NBA career. Could he put up stats on a bad team? Of course. Anything else, I'm not seeing it. All of Pat Riley's fidgeting during the 2008 draft now makes perfect sense.

If Dwyane Wade ends up leaving this summer, it's because of two reasons:

A. The teams that ended up with O.J. Mayo (3) Russell Westbrook (4), Kevin Love (5), Danilo Gallinari (6), Eric Gordon (7), Brook Lopez (10), Jerryd Bayless (11), Robin Lopez (15), Serge Ibaka (24), Nic Batum (25) and George Hill (26) wouldn't trade those guys for Beasley right now. That's a borderline catastrophe. They got the 13th-best guy in the draft at No. 2.

B. Riley didn't sell his Beasley stock in time. The window was February, when a panicking Suns team happily would have green-lighted Beasley (making $19.4 million from 2011-2013), Udonis Haslem's expiring deal and a protected 2010 No. 1 for Amar'e Stoudemire. If you're Miami, why not? Amar'e gets a taste of Miami for a few months; you get the chance to offer him a sixth year and more money; worst-case scenario, you have his sign-and-trade rights this summer; you can make a 2010 playoffs run with the Wade-Amar'e combo; and you potentially have a 2010-11 nucleus of Wade, Amar'e and Free Agent Star X.

If you're Wade, would you stick around and put your basketball prime in the hands of someone who just botched those two decisions? Or would you flip teams and opt for a safer situation? More on this later."


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It's damn near like Simmons

It's damn near like Simmons took the words right out of your mouth. You've been saying this about Beasley for awhile.

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ha, yeah i was reading it

ha, yeah i was reading it and i thought wow, that was my words almost exactly. It doesnt mean either of us are correct, but i thought i would post this to gloat a little.

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The Heat
The Heat bought the hype... Though I've heard particular reports that the Heat were willing to draft OJ Mayo at number 2 but since media would criticize Riley, he decided to go with the utmost choice in Michael Beasley... As dominant as Beasley was in college, he was questionable in the pros... Lack of size and position...bein a tweener really gets you in trouble...(sigh).. His maturity level was and still is a question... They should have tradd for Amar'e when they got a chance... I think Riley couldn't afford to take such risk in a sense that Amare is getting older whereas Beasley still has plenty of room to grow... But I really thought the Heat could pull the trigger right there...
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I remember getting into a

I remember getting into a huge debate with Quincey about something similar to this. I posted that Riley wasn't in love with Beasley and that IF Griffin would've declared, he had a chance to go 2nd. Quincey tried to tell me that there was no question Riley wanted Beasley and that Griffin had no shot at two.

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BTW
I missed 2 months of nbadraft.net... Where the hell is quincey tez?
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from what i read and what i

from what i read and what i believe, riley was far from in love with beasley. He was looking for a reason not to draft him and there were reports he might take OJ at the last minute. BUt he probably got scared because beasley was widely regarded the second best player and he went with the general consensus rather then go out on his own. I think GM's do this a lot. They like a certain player, but everyone says the other guy is the right choice, so they go with the popular opinion so they dont look quite so bad if they are wrong.

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You know what's funny? He

You know what's funny? He disappeared during the same time you did lol. He came back a couple of weeks ago and changed his named to Stanford Hoops. The first day he came back, he got banned for something stupid. He then got unbanned after a week or so. He posts every now and then.

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And just to think... They

And just to think... They could've had Brook Lopez.

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here's a question, Brook or

here's a question, Brook or Westbrook who should have gone second?

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Lopez for sure. Always take

Lopez for sure. Always take the big man esp if you know he will pan out...

On a side note...would the Suns really not trade Robin Lopez for Beasley? Really?

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What do you think rose would

What do you think rose would average in maimi if he was drafted second. I really think that he wouldn't be that good and Beasley in Chicago would be putting up all star stats. Beasley gets benched every time he makes a mistake while rose play's through his mistakes and develops like many other great players eg Durant, Melo, Bron, who were all the first options on bad teams but were given every opportunity to develop. Miami was looking to win the championship while the other teams, Chicago OKC etc, were looking to develop a young core for the future. Beasley still has a chance to average 25/8 but not in Miami.

I think it's pretty clear that wade will stay in Miami and pat Riley will bring in another star PF and probably a Center to help wade. Beasley will probably have to come off the bench and share minutes with haslem and the new PF, that's why i think he will be traded maybe for a point guard.

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