Who do you guys think was the biggest bust of the 09 draft? Griffin and Rubio didn't play a game for seperate reasons. Big men Jordan Hill and BJ Mullens were underwhelming. Christian Eyenga was an unknown and remained an unkown. Victor Claver? what happened to him. But by far Hasheem Thabeet. I know he was injured some time but looked very unimpressive while he did play for being the second pick overall. Can't really say I was surprised about Thabeet.
Eyanga and Claver never left Spains so i dont thunk they can go on the list but even though its too early to call anyone from this draft a bust, but i would have to say Jordan Hill.
In March and April Thabeet averaged about 6 pts 6 rbs and 1.5 blocks per game in about 20 minutes of playing time. He is a bit of a project, but when you are analyzing his rookie season he made strides, proved he could dominate in a lesser league in his stint in the D-league, and to say he is a bust now is not only premature, but un informed.
Did you pay any attention to how Jordan Hill played after he was traded? He averaged 6 points and 5 rebounds in only 16 minutes of playing time including putting together some very solid games.
Even though it's early (!!), i think Jordan Hill was vastly over-rated, as was Thabeet. But their still only kids. On the flip side, Blair was a nice player from the second round.
My only point is that its a little early to call someone a bust. You have to look at a rookie differently than you do a guy who's played 3 years. Especially some of your more project guys, if they make improvements and progress throughout a season then its hard to count them out after 1 year, but if they are doing the same stuff 3 years later then they are a bust. How many people called Jermaine O'Neil, Steve Nash, Gerald Wallace, or Zach Randolph busts after 1 year? None of those players made any significant contributions until years 3 or 4, Kobe and Dirk averaged around 7 their rookie years. I'm just saying its a little early to say guys are busts.
Way to early to even look at this debate...
It is too early but what we can say that guys like Thabeet,Hill and may be Flynn will have something to prove considering how some good players drafted after them ,
too early it is funny how many people are quick to call someone a bust. Not everyone will come in and play immediately and some can but are not given the opportunitly. I laugh when people say that OKC should not have grabbed James Harden. Dude is playing so well for them in limited minutes. He is versatile and at least trys to play defense which most rookies dont. Before he got minutes people were saying Holiday was a bust. I hear people calling Beasley a bust and he is not even playing terrible but he is not really playing up to expectations though but he is still young and to me is on the wrong team.
Gerald Henderson & Wayne Ellington
Two more seasons before we will know the exact answer to this.
Its hard to judge rookies who dont produce mainly because some of them dont even get enough playing time to show their skills. While others are pushed into the spotlight qiuck and havent adjusted to the NBA level yet.
I think you have to wait at least 3 years. Hasheem Thabeet is far from a bust at this point, centers take forever to develop and usually don't do much their first few seasons besides rebound and dunk.
You can't call anyone a bust, but you can say you were disappointed in their play. I think Hill's play was disappointing, but you can't call him a bust. He still has the talent that made him a top ten pick. And I doubt too many people around the league expected Thabeet to produce big early. He will stay a while before getting a great feel for the game. I felt Earl Clark's play was the most the most underwhelming for a lottery pick, although I wasn't big on him before the draft. He still doesn't play hard enough, and he never got a rhythm in the Suns high powered offense in his very limited minutes. His FG% was no better than Brandon Jennings, showing his poor shooting and lack of touch. With more playing time, his shooting percentages will rise significantly, but he needs to earn his minutes.
I dont get how some people can even think about calling Flynn a bust, he had a good year on a very bad team(14 and 5) he may not be tthe purest of PG's but i think he'll be a very good player in the league for the next 10 yrs.
and yes it is very early to even talk about busts.
I know its too early to officially call someone a bust. This was mostly about guys that dissapointed in their first year. They aren't bust yet, but they sure seem to be headed in that direction as opposed to guys like Curry, Evans, Harden, Jennings, Lawson...
Ellington was the 28th pick. Very rarely do people refer to the 28th pick as a bust if they don't pan out, a pick that near to the 2nd round is more of a bonus if they do work out rather than a huge disappointment if they dont.
Former #28 picks that didn't pan out but no one refers to as "busts"
2000- Eric Barkley
2002- Dan Dickau
2005- Ian Mahinmi
2006- Maurice Ager
Former #28 picks that did well
#28 is a pick where you can find real talent, but it's pretty low risk. No one is talking about how huge of a mistake the Kings made by drafting Dan Dickau. if Wayne Ellington doesn't work out then he'll most likely fade into obscurity like Barkley, Dickau, Ager and others.
I wouldn't say Ellington is a bust, but I don't think he'll be much. Henderson will be good, just Larry Brown hates playing rookies.
Earl Clark...but not too much.
Suns are a winning team and plays a 10 mans rotation, a complete 2nd unit with many players who stepped up big or quite big(lopez-dragic-dudley).
Should have gone to the D-league more and earlier in the season, shows some signs at times, better after his brief stint in d-league(he needs rythm), has all the physical tools to be a factor(like lopez did), like dragic last year, he has to be more mentally strong, more focus, more agressive to the basket.
Erase the AI aspects of your game, crossovers-jumpshots, u're a 6'10 combo forward, work, work, work and u'll be a good fit.